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   Posted 7/11/2009 6:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Thought you guys might find this article interesting:
 
 
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gma
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   Posted 7/11/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I have a feeling that the incidence of Celiac Disease becoming more prevalent is due to doctors learning symptoms to look for it. My husband has probably had it for about 50 years because he has been treated for Dermatitis Herpetiformis which is part of CD. Only one time in all those years did a doctor mention a GF diet, but he was in the Navy and that wasn't very likely to happen. AND the dr didn't really push the diet, just mentioned it. I talked to a young nurse who had been diagnosed and she was dong nothing about a GFdiet. She said she didn't feel sick all the time. Evidentally the dr didn't explain much to her about other symptoms of CD. I told her CD could affect fertility and she was celebrating her first anniversary and wants children. I suggested she get on a GF diet and be serious about it all. It is all about knowing about the disease and sharing with others. This forum is a good place to do that. MK




veggienft
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   Posted 7/12/2009 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   

I have celiac disease, hypoglycemia and hyperthyroidism. Celiac disease is expanding, not because wheat ingestion is expanding, but because sugar ingestion is expanding.

Sugar is addictive. Wheat makes sugar addictive, and sugar ingestion gives wheat the ability to feed sugar addiction.

The mechanism which makes sugar addictive is the action of ingested opioids like gluten on pancreas nerves. The pancreas responds by flooding the blood with insulin.

Large proteins like gluten should not be in the bloodstream. DPPIV is supposed to break them apart in the small intestine. But gluten in the small intestine makes the body release zonulin. Zonulin arrests digestion, and dumps the intestine’s contents into the bloodstream.

Why does the small intestine normally release zonulin? .......to rinse sugar-propagated gut microorganisms out of the small intestine, and into the bloodstream. But microorganisms mutate to mimic gluten. So every time a susceptible person ingests sugar and wheat, it dumps gluten into the bloodstream, and causes a flood of insulin.

So far I have described a non-autoimmune reaction, caused simply by a gluten antigen attack. It causes hypoglycemia, type 2 diabetes, and metabolic syndrome. Autoimmune diseases are caused by the immune system reaction to this attack.

.........celiac disease, type 1 diabetes, hyper- and hypo- thyroid disease, Addison’s disease, schizophrenia.........

The immune system responds by killing the affected nerve tissue.

 

www.denvernaturopathic.com/news/celiac.html

jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/49/4/649

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7637543


Diane D.
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   Posted 7/18/2009 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm sorry, I have trouble reading the lengthy info packed posts. They are SO good but I have trouble following them. Should a person with Celiac also avoid sugar because of the way it interacts with the Gluton, I think that's what you're saying? Or are you saying that the sugary diets of today spur on the "outbreaks" of Celiac disease cases? Forgive me for being so simple minded...

veggienft
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   Posted 7/18/2009 4:28 AM (GMT -6)   

"I'm sorry, I have trouble reading the lengthy info packed posts. They are SO good but I have trouble following them. Should a person with Celiac also avoid sugar because of the way it interacts with the Gluton, I think that's what you're saying? Or are you saying that the sugary diets of today spur on the "outbreaks" of Celiac disease cases? Forgive me for being so simple minded..."

 

Sorry. Yes to both. People with celiac disease should avoid gluten and sugar.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12826451

Candida albicans is a digestive yeast. It thrives on sugar, and gets out of hand. Gluten and candida have identical protein sequences. The digestive immune system sees gluten and candida as the same antigen.

Celiacs should eliminate sugar and gluten.

My other point is that non-celiacs, people with hypoglycemia and/or

 type 2 diabetes should eliminate gluten and sugar. ........same reason different symptoms.

Post Edited (veggienft) : 7/18/2009 4:31:28 AM (GMT-6)


Hellokitty
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   Posted 8/31/2009 5:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for this post. my sister in law is a celiac. and i was winging about sugar and ibd while on vacation with her. but i was not sure if celiacs disease was in the same category, now i know it is. Although interesting i am using a raw food diet to help my symptoms of UC. I eat a lot of fruit. Fruit has sugar in it but i believe that it is different. when i used to eat refined sugar i would get shaky. since eating mainly fruit as my diet the shakiness has disappeared. I presume our bodies know what to do with fruit but do not know what to do with the refined sugar.
I am still experiementing


Also interesting is that my asthma allergies reduced after giving up gluten, also my ibd symtoms improved, it happened immediatly. I know know gluten is bad for celiacs, CD and UC.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

gma
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   Posted 9/1/2009 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting that you mentioned dyslexia. My husband is dyslexic, too. And I read recently that autistic children need a gluten free diet. Amazing what we are learning about this disease and so many others. MK


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   Posted 9/1/2009 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   

I have leant that bad foods help limit people. Gluten, dairy and refind, are the worst and effect people the worst. Now that we have procesed gluten foods it is even harder on our guts. Although no one will beleive me on the UC line I have leant that eveyone with digestion problems also have problems with gluten. In UC the bowl becomes flat the ridges of the bowl become none exisitent. So im thinking we have a problem with carbohydrates. Not just gluten but all carbohydrates. rice, potatoes. ect. Since doing the raw food diet i have seen little to no symptoms of UC. So I am in question? Are doctors treating a dietary desease with meds. If they are the desease will continue to get worse. It would be like treating celiacs with meds instead of just stoping the gluten.

 

Paul Nison (a self healer of IBD) has said that ibd is caused by sugar, now im really interested in celiacs as i beleive that people with UC and chrones may have both of these desease but don't know it. I honestly beleive that people with UC and chrones should go gluten free and sugar free. Well no one will beleive me :(


Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

Mr. Denial
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   Posted 9/20/2009 7:03 AM (GMT -6)   
In reading the posts, I can't help but think the experiences with sugar and carbs lend credence to the SCD Diet. The hypothesis is that both refined sugars and starches are complex sugars which are more difficult to digest. Simple sugars from honey and fruit are more easily tolerated. I don't strictly follow the diet, but have "kicked" the refined sugar habit without much trouble.

dave
Prednisone (20mg), Flagyl, Pentasa, Humira, Prilosec . . . hospitalized for two obstructions, no surgery to date, CD in ileium


Hellokitty
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   Posted 9/23/2009 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
well done. i eat fruits and veg all day and have more energy that i have had in years.
Female 32 years old
 
Diganosed ulcerative colitis November 2007
Present medication-  500mg pentasa,  250 mg  asacol (every evening)
Diet- Back on the raw foods.
 
Other medical problems- Born with asthma- no medication taken for this.
dyslexia- found out that many people with learning difficulties also have food sensitivity
 

Pondchik
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   Posted 9/24/2009 12:20 AM (GMT -6)   
hello veggienft,

i just want to make sure I understand correctly your statement...

My other point is that non-celiacs, people with hypoglycemia and/or type 2 diabetes should eliminate gluten and sugar. ........same reason different symptoms.

because when i talked with a diabetic counselor, she told me basically I was full of it...that one had nothing to do with the other... and trying to self diagnose because of digestive symptoms, ...(yes I will have doc test for this) :-) unexplained weight gain and borderline type 2 diabetis (diagnosed). So from what little research I have done, have come to basically the same thing that I think u r saying...does this make sense? But then again, she also said that honey was better than agave nectar and lower on the GI scale... nono Can u please shed some more light on this??
Thanks.
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