yogurt vs. probiotic supplements?

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wildfire07
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   Posted 1/16/2008 7:24 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been struggling with diagnosis for several months now.  We've had two colonoscopies in just a couple months with 2 different docs & labs.  I definitely have proctitis & colitis, now I'm awaiting approval of the mini camera test to look at inside my small intestines to rule out crohn's disease, &/or surgery.  My doc told me to eat yogurt.  Then I stopped for awhile & have started eating it again, pain appearred to be lessening for a spell, now it's coming back.  Could it be the yogurt?  I just wonder about the supplements, I always understood it's best to get vitamins &minerals, etc. naturally from foods...
             
 
Diagnosed with UP Sept. 2007-2nd opinion & 2nd colonoscopy confirmed UP, & UC old pain & new pain, it's spreading...Dec. 2007
misDiagnosed with Degenerative Arthritis, 2006
2 4 asacol 3x daily for UC/UP. 
Canasa suppositories, also 3x  daily,
3tsp. Donnatol elixir every 6 hours, as needed
1 20mg tab aciphex daily
1-2 depakote 3x daily for bipolar disorder
1 tramidol hcl 50mg. every 6 hours as needed for pain, but usually the donnatol takes care of it...now.
 


princesa
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   Posted 1/16/2008 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
If you suspect you have any problems with dairy - and alot of folks with IBD are unable to digest it properly, then yogurt could cause problems. I prefer to stick with probiotics. Natren and Custom Probiotics are the brands I recommend. A powder is also better than a capsule for a compromised digestion.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 1/16/2008 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes...yogurt has always given me stomach and gut pain if I eat it daily...but it could be the brand. Experiment.

I same milk product use for coffee..lol!

Probiotics give you choices to a variety of strains to be used together...no yogurt can give you that.

I think yogurt is what's "known" out there....that's why it's suggested.

quincy
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... increased enemas to nightly
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


pb4
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   Posted 1/16/2008 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Personally I think yogurt is great, but honestly I don't feel like eating it everyday so I find it much easier and more importantly, much more EFFECTIVE taking a probiotic pill rather than just relying on yogurt alone.

I use primadophilus reuteri made by natures way with success for my crohns-colitis and IBS issues as well.

:)
My bum is broken....there's a big crack down the middle of it!  LOL  :)


wildfire07
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   Posted 1/17/2008 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
you guys are the best thank you! We have a compounding pharmacy in town, might they be a good source for these supplements?
             
 
Diagnosed with UP Sept. 2007-2nd opinion & 2nd colonoscopy confirmed UP, & UC old pain & new pain, it's spreading...Dec. 2007
misDiagnosed with Degenerative Arthritis, 2006
2 4 asacol 3x daily for UC/UP. 
Canasa suppositories, also 3x  daily,
3tsp. Donnatol elixir every 6 hours, as needed
1 20mg tab aciphex daily
1-2 depakote 3x daily for bipolar disorder
1 tramidol hcl 50mg. every 6 hours as needed for pain, but usually the donnatol takes care of it...now.
 


Judy2
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   Posted 1/17/2008 8:33 AM (GMT -6)   
wildfire, you should be able to buy probiotics from a health food store or many pharmacies. It's best to buy the ones that are refrigerated to keep the little buggies alive. I also take Natures Way Primadophilus Reuteri, and I order it off the internet. It was about $28 for a three month supply.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Asacol, Rowasa, Pentasa, Prednisone, Entocort, Azathioprine
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri.
In remission since April, 2006. Remicade has been my wonder drug.
 


princesa
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   Posted 1/17/2008 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
It's also difficult to get the volume of good bacteria you need from yogurt. And many brands don't have the viable bacteria they claim to have.

As Judilyn says, most pharmacies and health food stores (Wild Oats, Whole Foods, etc.) carry many brands of probiotics. You can also order online. The ones I use can be ordered here:

http://www.customprobiotics.com

http://www.natren.com


Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999
 
Therapeutic dose sulfasalazine.
Probiotics, l-glutamine and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and Mucosaheal.
 
 


mudua
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   Posted 1/17/2008 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Activia made me very sick. I don't know why

relativelyquantum
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   Posted 1/17/2008 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Most yogurts are full of sugars, which could be a problem and the quality brand.  I add my own sweetener.  But of course there are many people that are sensitive to milk products, even if it is cultured (I have a harder time with milk, but luckily take well to yogurt, kefir, cheese, etc.).  You can try soy yogurt, but taking a supplement is also a good idea.  Whatever works best for you.  There was much written on this in another post, similar in topic, on kefir vs. probiotics:
 
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th
Time off work since 10/17.  Return to work on 1/11 and doing much better.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), Probiotics, Fish Oil, Folic Acid, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Borage Oil


blessteve
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   Posted 1/17/2008 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
It is harder and harder to find a yogurt with out sugar and corn syrup.
Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day.
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotic
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.
 


jars05
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   Posted 1/17/2008 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I stick to yogurt, eventhough I really am burnt out on it. I tried probiotics with no positive results.
Age: 30
Location: Missouri
Diagnosed with UC in 1997.
Medications: 100 mg Azathioprine a day, 20 mg Prednisone a day
Supplements: 2 Omega 3s, b-6, calcium, and multivitamin
No. of colonoscopies: I lost count at 6...LOL!
Last scope: 10/9/05-everything looked ok.
 
 


dannyfisher
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   Posted 7/30/2009 10:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Your idea of taking natural probiotic supplements is definitely the best option. I'm suffering the same pain before when i eat lots of yogurt until my doctor suggested to just take probiotic supplements from licensed distributor.

notcryingwolf
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   Posted 7/31/2009 3:02 AM (GMT -6)   
yogurt is one of the few foods that really doesn't set me off... but I make my own.  I ferment it for 24 hours, so its lactose free.  Also I had a bit of vanilla and honey to sweeten.  Yogurt maker are super cheap on amazon.com and it is very easy to make it!
Diagnosised in Feb, 2008 at 29 years old. 
Currently on 2 Lialda daily
Fish oil, probiotiics, D3, Q10, Biotin, Zinc
Experimenting with diets:  Trying sunflower seeds and spinach  as well as gluten/wheat/dairy/soy free


princesa
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   Posted 7/31/2009 8:48 AM (GMT -6)   
jars05 said...
I stick to yogurt, eventhough I really am burnt out on it. I tried probiotics with no positive results.

Hope you experimented with a few different brands before you gave up. There are alot of cheaper products out there with inferior strains that do little to nothing. The more expensive brands are usually the better bet. I also suspect we all find different brands work differently for each of us, due to having different combinations of bad bacteria and other gut organisms.
Diagnosed with ulcerative colitis spring 1999. Have been in remission for years with only a few minor blips. Scope on 6/22 showed no inflammation at all.
 
Maintenance dose sulfasalazine. Probiotics, vitamin D, fiber supplement and fish oil caps. George's aloe vera juice and l-glutamine for gut healing. Mostly grain-free and dairy-free low carb diet.
 
 


Malkavian
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   Posted 7/31/2009 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
You could have issues with dairy, if yogurt seems to bother you. If that's the case try supplements.
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently taking Asacol (1200 mg 3x/day), Rowasa and Calcium/D supplements


ElephantPipe
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   Posted 7/31/2009 10:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried some probiotic yogurt and it made me poo too much. Activia didn't seem to do anything. Probiotics didn't seem effective either. Now I drink a cup of kefir before bed and I'm like clockwork again. But yeah, if you end up having dairy problems, I'd go with a supplement.
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday / 1 Mesalamine enema nightly /
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 1xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome

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