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blessteve
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 121
   Posted 2/4/2008 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
 
 
Free KEFIR grains are at this web sight.  http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php

Typical Microflora Isolated from Batches of Kefir Grains Divided into Four Genus Groups

LACTOBACILLI

Lactobacillus acidophilus
Lb. brevis

Lb. casei
Lb. casei
subsp. rhamnosus
Lb. casei subsp. pseudoplantarum
Lb. paracasei subsp. paracasei
Lb. cellobiosus
Lb. delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricus
Lb. delbrueckii subsp. lactis
Lb. fructivorans
Lb. helveticus subsp. lactis
Lb. hilgardii
Lb. kefiri
Lb. kefiranofaciens subsp. kefirgranum subsp. nov *
Lb. kefirgranum sp. nov **
Lb. parakefir sp. nov **
Lb. lactis
Lb. plantarum

STREPTOCOCCI/LACTOCOCCI

Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis
Lac. lactis subsp. lactis biovar diacetylactis
Lac. lactis subsp. cremoris
Streptococc lactis

Enterococcus durans
Leuconostoc cremoris
Leuc. mesenteroides

YEASTS

Candida kefyr [can utilize lactose]
C. rancens
C. tenuis
Debaryomyces hansenii *** [can utilize lactose]
Issatchenkia orientalis

Kluyveromyces lactis [can utilize lactose]
K. marxianus var. marxianus [can utilize lactose]
K. bulgaricus
K. fragilis / marxianus
Saccharomyces
subsp. torulopsis holmii
Sacc. carlsbergensis

S. humaticus
Sacc. unisporus
Sacc. exiguus
Zygosaccharomyces rouxii ***

ACETOBACTER

Acetobacter aceti
A. rasens

Units Count of Microbes in Gram Stained Kefir Grains

Bacilli [single cells, pair, chains]
Streptococci [pair, chains]
Yeast [single cells]

The Means Range

Bacilli 66, 62-69%
Streptococci 16, 11- 12%
Yeast 18, 16- 20%
[11]

Evolution Sequence among Genus Group of Organisms of Kefir during the Culture Cycle

Lactococci > Lactobacilli > Leuconostoc > Yeast > Acetobacter

Microbial Composition of Kefir at End of Fermentation [cfu/ml] ****

Lactococci : 1,000,000,000
Leuconostocs : 100,000,000
Lactobacilli : 5,000,000
Yeast : 1,000,000
Acetobacter : 100,000


Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day. X6 1/15/08
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotics
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
grape seed extract.
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.1/22/08 cultued veggies
 
 


quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 25562
   Posted 2/5/2008 1:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Great info...thanks Steve!

q
*Heather*Status: mini flare Dec 28... tapered to every second night
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~5ASA: Asacol (6 daily) + Salofalk enemas (increase for flares tapered to maintenance)
~Bentylol (dicyclomine) 20mg as needed
~vitamins/minerals/supplements 
~Probiotic 3(Natural Factors Protec) bedtime + 1 (Primadophilus Reuteri) occasionally
~multi-digestive enzymes as needed ....bromelain 1 - 2x daily
~Ranitidine,Pariet (reflux) Effexor XR 75mg;  Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma)
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS"  worth it !!!


relativelyquantum
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 196
   Posted 2/5/2008 11:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks steve.
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th
Time off work since 10/17.  Returned to work on 1/11 and doing much better.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), Probiotics, Fish Oil, Folic Acid, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Borage Oil, Iron


blessteve
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 121
   Posted 2/10/2008 11:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Is anyone besides me drinking kefir for a probiotic?
Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day. X6 1/15/08
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08 PRObiotics
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotics
1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
grape seed extract. 2/04/08 garlic
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
 
 


Sara14
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 3766
   Posted 2/11/2008 12:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not drinking kefir, but I had a fermented drink yesterday called Synergy. It's Kombucha...it has probiotics, digestive enzymes, amino acids and other good stuff in it. It tasted pretty good, too. Ever had it? I'm still looking into the kefir.
24 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007; yet to go into remission
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - daily
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D)


relativelyquantum
Regular Member


Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 196
   Posted 2/11/2008 4:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I usually just buy my kefir: helios and another brand that doesn't come to mind. At some point I'll have to figure out how exactly one makes kefir--just add it in milk and wait? I'm sure those sites you sent, Steve, have info on this.
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th
Time off work since 10/17.  Returned to work on 1/11 and doing much better.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), Probiotics, Fish Oil, Folic Acid, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Borage Oil, Iron


blessteve
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 121
   Posted 2/22/2008 1:04 AM (GMT -6)   
 Did anyone try getting Kefir grains yet?
 
I have been drinking that stuff for 2 months now and feeling good.
Diagnosed panColitis 1990.
Current Meds Asacol x4 twice a day. X6 1/15/08
Pred for flares. I still have my colon THANK YOU GOD!!!
vitamins-veggie juice-wheat grass juice--fish oil
Started 1/01/08 PRObiotics
Freindly bacteria:raw milk-kefir made with raw milk--natto--probiotics
1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
Antifungus:Caprylicacid, Pau D Arco, Black walnut hull, Oregano oil
grape seed extract. 2/04/08 garlic
Anti inflammatory:fish oil  1/15/08 started Turmeric
1/10/08 Started healthy diet again.1/22/08 cultued veggies(probiotic)
 
 


relativelyquantum
Regular Member


Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 196
   Posted 2/22/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Which ones are you using? Glad to hear it is helping.
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission: maintaining at the moment
Taking Rowasa, Probiotics, Fish Oil, Folic Acid, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Borage Oil, Iron, Oregano Oil

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