Phillips Colon Health Probiotic Supplement

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LightenUp
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   Posted 9/16/2008 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Anybody have anything to say about this probiotic? My daughter, forever looking out for Dad, said she recently saw ads for this over-the-counter medication. One website lists ingredients as:
Active Ingredients: Proprietary Blend; (L acidophilus, B bifidum, B longum)

Inactive Ingredients: Potato Starch, Gelatin, Silica

I tried taking Kefir for a while but suffered with incredible gas issues that had me running for the loo every half-hour or so. But I feel that I need to start on a probiotic to try and reverse the bacterial imbalance I'm thinking I have.


Darryl, 58, Male, FL
Dx w/ moderate UC in 2000
Meds: (None seem to work so far, including Remicade)
> Colazol, 6/day
> Methotrexate, 1 shot/week
> Prednizone, 10mg/day
Good news? Never seem to have complications from any meds.


mh53mike
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   Posted 9/16/2008 11:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I saw the ad on tv too. To tell you the truth i was sort of impressed as i know the FDA doesnt back up probiotics at all which i think is crap, so just seeing it on TV was pretty cool cause i strongly support probiotics and the way they have helped me out. Now i havent got to look at this product up close so i dont know much about it. Things to consider with these probiotics is for one what bacterias are in them and how much CFUs. Also their delievery process. They need to survive stomach acid and actually make it to the intestines to set up their little colonies and kick the bad bacterias butt!

Try using a pill form probiotic rather than a drink. I get mine out of GNC.
26y old male medically disharged USAF veteran.Diagnosed with UC (lower proctitis) in 2004.
 
Current daily treatment:                               Probiotics & supplements:
1000mg sup asacol                                      50 Billion CFU's acidopholis daily
2400mg oral asacol                                      Digestive enzymes before each meal
35mg prednisone tapering                             5grams of glutamine
75mg azathioprine                                       folic acid & calcuim with V-D
20mg Nexum                                               Whey protien  
 
Diet:Little/no sugars, fats, carbs, caffine. Stay natural as possible.  
 
Results:1 Bowel movement in the morning no blood!


Christine1946
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   Posted 9/17/2008 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I am seeing a nutritionist and she suggested I take Power-Dophilus manufactured by Countrylife.  I order online and it was only twelve bucks!! Before that I was taking FloraQ in the hospital and that is what the doctor wrote my prescription for.  However, FloraQ is now sold OTC and cost thirty bucks for one month supply.    There are 200 capsules in the Power-Dophilus.  I take two a day.  They contain Lactobacillus Rhamnosus..4.2 billion, Lactobacillus acidophilus...3.6 billion, Bifidobacterium lactis..3 billion and Bifidobacterium longum..1.2 billion. WOW!  They must be having a field day in my colon.   There is no yeast, wheat, soy, gluten, milk, salt, sugar, starch, preservatives or artificial color.  Good luck!

LondonRed
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   Posted 9/17/2008 9:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Natren's Trinity is the gold standard Probiotic if Gini Patel Thompson is to be believed.

Diagnosis Oct 07 and then Aug 08: Inditerminate Patches of Mild Colitis (including Rectum) - Currently Minor Bleeding
Medication: 1000mg Mesalazine Suppository at night.


Peety
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   Posted 9/17/2008 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I take Replete, it's expensive but has no gluten like some of these others. So far I am using the powder which I mix with water and it tastes good (like weak sweet tea, a little surgary).
I think it is a good sign if a probiotic is sold out of a refrigerated case, and instructions are to keep it refrigerated. I'm not convinced that the new national vitamin brands advertised for IBS or UC would be as good.
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering.
Asacol/5ASA maintenance for 20+ years, usually 3 pills 2x day. 
Currently tapering OFF prednisone from lingering flare;
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Tested gluten intolerant and started gluten-free, soy-free, etc. diet which resolved flare. Also Replete probiotic, DGL (licorice root, slippery elm), Permeability Factors. Slow-release iron and B-12 shots for severe anemia.
Sept: Mild case of thrush in throat, prescribed antifungal mouthwash.


men8ifr
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   Posted 9/18/2008 6:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Even 10 billion CFU's is a tiny drop in the ocean of our gut bacteria which have trillions of bacteria.
 
You can make yoghurt out of lacto-'good' bacteria capsules or sachets I do this regularly and I make a lot sometimes enough for 1-2 pints a day. This should also be suitable for people intolerant to Lactose (the lactose - milk sugar is consumed by the bacteria). Dont forget normal yoghurt usually contains lacto acid bacteria and I'm not convinced that probiotic strains are any more beneficial than normal yoghurt strains (but I still use them)  
 
There seems very little research on how many CFU's of bacteria are present in yoghurt but if I take say 1x10bilion CFU acidophiluos capsule and make 1 litre of yoghurt out of it I figure those bacteria have 24-48 hours on continuous feeding with a very large food supply so I would not be surprised if the number of bacteria when finished could be 1000x that of the original capsule and simply by the volume of yoghurt I can consume - say a pint a day I could see how that could 'touch' a large portion of the intestinal walls and have a much greater chance of colonisation...
 
The yoghurt can taste as nice as any commercial variety (or nicer IMHO) so it's easy to eat a lot plus you can use it in lots of foods - soups omlettes and while heating above 45degrees probably kills bacteria there seems some evidence that dead bacteria are also effective in helping UC.
 
To make the yoghurt simply boil the milk until it froths a lot stirring all the time milk burns easily - keep it frothing for 4 min then allow it to cool to 40 degrees (a thermomitor is very important) add your starter - this could be a VSL packet (makes upto 6 pints of yoghurt) or a probiotic capsule or any probiotic yoghurt - one yoghurt will make 6 pints no problem stir it in and then put in the oven (would have to be electric I think) at 40 degrees for 24-48 hours - place the thermomitor in the oven to watch the temperature - over 43 and the bacteria may die and less than 37 and the yoghurt will be slow to make. I have a mark on my oven now to indicate 40 degrees and it works great every time.
 
Sorry for the long post but this seems like a very cheap way to get loads of beneficial bacteria and hopefully will make a difference for some people out there - also see the 'specific carbohydrate diet - SCD' website/recipes this info is based from them though I found out it is possible to use probiotic sachets myself.
 
Finally to make the yoghurt taste nice add boiled/microwaved blueberries, cherries or something similar (I use frozen ones) - becareful of things with seeds in though and then add honey to sweeten it.
Ian

6 Asacol tabs/day
1 Pentasa Suppository / day
Fish oil 3/day (omega 3 only)
Multivitamin and mineral 1/day
Folic Acid 1/day
Aloe Vera 3/day
Specific Carbohydrate Diet SCD
Turmeric 3/day
Currently in no mans land between flare and remission


men8ifr
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   Posted 9/18/2008 6:42 AM (GMT -6)   
that's 40 degrees C...
Ian

6 Asacol tabs/day
1 Pentasa Suppository / day
Fish oil 3/day (omega 3 only)
Multivitamin and mineral 1/day
Folic Acid 1/day
Aloe Vera 3/day
Specific Carbohydrate Diet SCD
Turmeric 3/day
Currently in no mans land between flare and remission


kops2da
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   Posted 9/18/2008 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   

I use Align (Align.com) because a couple others I tried caused so much gas, etc.  This is definitely working good for me.

ElaineNY


68 yr. old granny
New diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis
canasa and proctofoam
colazal
Probiotic Align
Prilosec for GERD
Inderol for hypertension
Xanax,Lipitor, multivitamin, calcium w/D, Tylenol
Rowasa every night for now- trying Lialda starting Friday
 
 
 
 
 
 


Peety
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   Posted 3/10/2009 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
That would have me up pooping all night, and I would get no sleep at all. Our bodies react a lot quicker to those kinds of inputs. And I can't pass gas without sitting on the toilet to make sure other stuff doesn't come out too.

Actually, on the rare occasion I am feeling good, and I do pass a little gas, it is really exciting for me!
My husband laughs, "way to go Peety!"
49 year old female attorney, diagnosed UC/pancolitis 1985, no surgery but much suffering. Asacol/5ASA 6x400 mg maintenance for 20+ years; use prednisone & Rowasa for flares. 
August 2008 sought care of naturopathic doctor. Food sensitivity test showed wheat/gluten, other intolerances; eliminated all wheat/gluten from my diet. Probiotics (Ultimate Flora, 50 billion), trying Curamin. 
Flaring, seasonal? or supplements too harsh? Back on prednisone, trying 15/20 mg. Appt 3/6 to discuss Humira, etc.   


Judy2
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   Posted 3/10/2009 10:37 PM (GMT -6)   
For most of us, prunes or prune juice is the last thing we need. Lissie, you might want to research probiotics before you recommend prune juice in their place. The uses are completely different.
Judy
 
Moderate to severe left-sided UC (21 cm) diagnosed 2001.
Avascular necrosis in both shoulders is my "forever" gift from Entocort.
Colazal,  Remicade, Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri. In remission since April, 2006.
"My life is an ongoing medical adventure"
 
Co-Moderator UC Forum
Please remember to consult your health care provider when making health-related decisions.


Katmom
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   Posted 3/11/2009 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for being on the ball, Judilyn. PRUNE juice for UC, Yikes!
Daughter,15 diagnosed 1-08 w/ UC .
Previous drug sampling: Asacol, Prevacid, Flagyl, Prednisone- 50mg to 0, 4 major flares '08.Hospital four x. Low residue diet,
6MP, Colazal , Cortifoam enemas,
Trying probiotics, Niferex, fish oil, Magnesium, Acupuncture.
Remicade 10mg per kilo@ 8wks, since 10-08. Still on 6mp and Colazal


Lonie
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   Posted 3/11/2009 8:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hmmmm, I have to agree with Judilyn and Katmom...can't imagine most of us having to use prune juice with UC.

Carol

Remicade - will have my 27th infusion on March 19 Vitamin B-12/Biotin, Probiotics
 
Co-Moderator for the UC Forum
 
 


candyla
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   Posted 3/11/2009 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about you but I do belive in Digestive advantage for crohn's & colitis! I just started taking it and I feel so much better. Yeah you do get gas from it but Oh boy I'll take gas any day before all the darn cramps. And the bathroom calls are better.

fruitgirl
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   Posted 3/11/2009 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Prune juice??? Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Symptoms began in November 2008, ~4 weeks after giving birth to my son.
Eased for ~3 weeks in December, possibly b/c of probiotic use?
Returned in January 2009 (with a vengeance), diagnosed with pancolitis on January 30.
Currently taking Asacol (400mg 4 pills 3x daily), Rowasa nightly, Culturelle probiotic, and Zoloft (25 mg).


subdued
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   Posted 3/11/2009 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Prune juice is high in fructose. I would be flaring if I was drinking prune juice.
Joy - 47 yrs and counting
Diagnosed w/ UC Dec 06 (also have IBS)
Currently in remission

Lexapro (for stress)
Probiotics and Vitamins (a whole bunch of them)
Anti-inflammatory foods: turmeric, seaweed, garlic...
Avoid: pro-inflammatory foods, HFCS, foods high in fructose, artificial sweeteners
Previous treatments: Fecal transplantation (worked), Prednisone (stopped working), Colazal (stopped working), Asacol (stopped working)


jakecake
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   Posted 11/30/2010 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Pear juice much better than apple or orange, dunno why, it just calms my symptoms down.

www.itchybottomremedy.com

Post Edited (jakecake) : 12/1/2010 5:32:37 AM (GMT-7)


jadethebabe
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   Posted 12/26/2010 10:57 AM (GMT -6)   
That's because apple and orange juice is more acidic than pear juice and probably irritates you more.
J

jakecake said...
Pear juice much better than apple or orange, dunno why, it just calms my symptoms down.

www.itchybottomremedy.com

Peace&Harmony
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   Posted 12/26/2010 6:26 PM (GMT -6)   
My GI recommended it to me but didn't do any good.  Not strong enought for UCers! 
I switched to VSL#3 on really bad days and used Renew Life Critical Colon Care 80 Billion on ok days!
41 year old female Accountant, diagnosed July 2010
flaring as of 10/15/2010,
Rectosigmoid up to 30 cm....very mild?
Mesalamine 4gm enema daily
Asacol oral 2 pills 2x daily - due to tolerance level
Folic Acid 1 mg daily / Probotics / Calcium + Vit D / Bene-fiber
Microgestin (birth control), Magnesium for leg cramp

notcryingwolf
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   Posted 12/26/2010 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Udo's choice super 8 probiotics are the best that I have found. You will only find them refridgerated as they are active and live cultures. I have had no luck with the ones that can be found on the shelves that are flash frozen and dried.

Guategirl
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   Posted 12/26/2010 11:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I took a whole jarful and didn't see any improvement at all. I think I agree w everyone's post that it doesn't have enough good bacteria for us UC'ers.
Don't waste your money w it. If you can get it, better go with the VSL.
36 y/o female
Flaring, can't get it under control
Diagnosed UC April 2010
Pentasa 2 mg
Prednisone 30mg daily
Probiotic: some crap I found in GNC. Can't get the VSL shipped to Guate since it has to be refrigerated :(
Fish oil supplements

I have FAITH this too shall pass!

prettyella
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   Posted 7/12/2011 5:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Dr. Ohhira's, Essential Formulas Inc., Probiotics Original Formula, is the best so far. I don't have ulcerative colitis but most of colleagues has been using this for the GIT product. I tried this for my allergies and it does work!Moreover, I've purchased this product at iherb(d0t)com with a coupon code of :GIG072 and got the $50ff. When it comes to ship=pment this site delivers on time, and also this supplement doesn't need any refrigeration. Actually at iherb(d0t)com you can really avail the $5off on any items. For best results take one (1) capsule twice a day on an empty stomach (1 hour before or 1 1/2 hours after meal)

KiWi44
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   Posted 7/12/2011 6:00 AM (GMT -6)   
The two probiotics products that have worked for me are the Culturelle and VSL#3DS.

http://journals.lww.com/jcge/Fulltext/2010/04000/Probiotic_Therapy_for_Ulcerative_Colitis.7.aspx
UC since 1975
Asacol 3 x 3
50 mg 6MP
VSL#3DS
Ca with D, B, C, iron, etc
Vegetarian diet
Tried just about every diet and "cure" under the Sun
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