Apple Cider Vinegar and UC

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dinesh
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   Posted 9/23/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi all,

I have read mixed opinions about taking apple cider vinegar while having UC. Apple cider vinegar has great health benefits so I was wondering whether its OK to consume this with UC. There is a recipe of consuming 2 teaspoons with 16 oz of water throughout the day.

If you have any suggestions/experience, please provide guidance.

Thanks
Dinesh

Post Edited (dinesh) : 9/23/2009 2:34:02 PM (GMT-6)


songlady
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   Posted 9/23/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
I tried it a while back, while in remission, and didn't find any problems. (Didn't find any benefits, either, but that was just me...)
Diagnosed UP 1983, Azulphidine
Diagnosed UC 1986 Prednisone almost 2 years
Asacol - 16 pills/day
Metamucil - 2 doses/day
Cortenemas until recently, Rowasa as of 9/8
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ElephantPipe
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   Posted 9/23/2009 6:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I took the tabs and it really helped my acid reflux. My dad drank the vinegar and had similar results. Didn't bother my UC, but nothing does except birth control apparently lol
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (mod-sev pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday (out) / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday /
2 Fiber Choice tabs 1xday / Depo for birth control
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


Dr-A
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   Posted 9/23/2009 9:40 PM (GMT -7)   
1 Tablespoon Braggs ACV and 1 Tablespoon of honey (I use manuka for this) in coffee cup full of warm water. Works wonders for my acid reflux when ingesting Italian type foods. Used it for years now.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
Golimumab study (100mg every 4 weeks)
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
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dinesh
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   Posted 9/24/2009 8:17 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone for responding.  It seems that some of you have used it without any problems. 
 
songlady - did you try the organic apple cider vinegar?  It has to be unprocessed and raw (with a "mother" in it) to make it work.
ElephantPipe - For your arthritis, I suggest you look into Cosamin DS tablets which as glucosamine and chondritin sulfate - both seem to help the join pain.  Also research the raisin in gin remedy
Dr-A - thanks for the info.  I was planning to use the Braggs as well.  Seems that your UC is not affected due to ACV usage - nice.
 

frombc
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   Posted 9/24/2009 9:17 AM (GMT -7)   
I use it on my salad and have never noticed any problem flaring or not.
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Salofalk enemas 4(g) at bedtime every night right now
..adding 8000 IUs of vitamin E to my enema
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fish oil (pharmaceutical grade)
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Zippy123
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   Posted 9/29/2009 1:35 PM (GMT -7)   
I just buy Heinz Apple Cider Vinegar, it seems fine to me. The real cheap stuff like Walmart or Spartan brand I would avoid for no other reason than it doesn't taste as good.

mom_2 JnJ
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   Posted 11/27/2009 8:26 PM (GMT -7)   
 That  is awesome to hear. I have trouble with my blood sugar and I have read about how good the organic stuff is for all kinds of problems including UC and blood sugar. I read if I get the stuff out of the grocery store all the good stuff is processed out so I am going to order some organic stuff that still has chunks in it.  I find a lot of things I usually get at my health food store a ton cheaper online.

ElephantPipe
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   Posted 11/27/2009 9:20 PM (GMT -7)   
I could never drink that stuff, that's why I took the tabs lol
I hear cinnamon is also good for blood sugar, something with how you metabolize sugars or something.
20yr old female diagnosed with UC (mod-sev pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday (out) / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday /
2 Fiber Choice tabs 1xday / Depo for birth control
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


Malkavian
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   Posted 11/28/2009 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, that sounds pretty gross (just drinking it mixed with water), but I use it in cooking fairly often and have never had an issue.

ElephantPipe: like I need more of an excuse to eat tasty cinnamon-y things.
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently in remission
Currently on asacol 3x3 daily and eating lots of yogurt. Calcium and D pills and probiotic pills when I remember.
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


Dr-A
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   Posted 11/28/2009 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
You don't drink it straight up with water. You do 1 tbsp ACV, 1 tbsp good honey mixed in warm or hot water in a coffee cup.
Proctitis DX 1999, Pancolitis DX 2008
L-Glutamine 5000 mg + 600 mg pyridoxal alpha-ketoglutarate
Probiotis/VitD3 5000IU+Ca/1000mg DHA


killcolitis
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   Posted 12/5/2009 12:25 PM (GMT -7)   
My child was a vegetarian from birth until being diagnosed with UC four months ago. We started the scd diet but were worried about her ability to digest meat, especially red meat. We wanted her to have it since she's already on a limited diet and wanted her to have the most variety within that diet. Our naturopath suggested one tsp on apple cider vinegar about an hour before any protein rich meal. We tried and and have had to bribe her to drink it (we mix it with apple cider instead of water to make it a little more tolerable) but it works. When she has this, she's much less burby/gassy after a meaty meal. It's used in place of a digestive enzyme and provides acids necessary to the stomach in the break down of food.
Doesn't taste great though.

killcolitis
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   Posted 12/6/2009 9:25 AM (GMT -7)   
LFTC
I don't think the diet caused her UC. I've had an email exchange with David Klein ("Self Healing Crohn's and Colitis" by mostly raw vegan diet). He claims the "animal products" (dairy) made her sick. I don't believe this at all. If that were the case, there would be many many more people with IBD then there are. I'm more inclined to believe that the whole grains in her diet (they were the basis of her diet, whole grain pasta, sprouted bread, brown rice, quinoa etc) made things worse once the UC was triggered. I'm more inline with the low carb diet theory. Having said that, David Klein has been UC free for 20 years and many people have done very well on his diet. I don't know why and I sure didnt get a better understanding of why from reading his book (I've heard it described as a "hippy's diary" and that's appropriate. It's hard to stomach). I don't know how safe his diet is for a small child either.

Burli
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   Posted 12/6/2009 1:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Grilled salmon over rice, a dollop of plain yogurt on top and some red wine or apple cider vinegar (plus a little olive oil) poured on top with some herbs and some crumbled feta cheese...now this a great meal.

The acidic vinegar just helps to break down foods (as someone said they use it with red meats)...I don't see that it has to be apple cider versus red wine or rice wine as long as it's vinegar...
43, male, UC diagnosed in 1985
Flares occur after some illness: food poisoning, flu, mono...
Flares last 6 months to a year and lately involve several weeks of severe symptoms with lots of diarrhea, blood, pain, fever, dehydration.
Remissions last 1 to 4 years and are absolute with no symptoms 
Current Meds: 100 mg azathioprine, Colazal 9/day, Lialda 2/day,  60 mg 50 mg  60mg 80 mg prednisone
Xanax, Valium for anxiety
Tegretol XR for epilespy


melchiz8
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   Posted 12/6/2009 2:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi new to this forum, haven't yet added my very recent diagnosis to my profile (UC proctitis mod- ev right now as left untreated).

Ive been reading much on ACV & have used it therapeutically for colds and respirotry infections/viruses and the key thing is that it helps to create good bacteria in the gut & the organic cloudy one is the best for this. It also helps remove toxins throughout the organs. Other vinegars ; malt,white, balsamic create more bad bacteria , mainly due to over processing and sugars.

I have some web sites Ive been reading up ths info on , not sure if I can link?

Burli
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   Posted 12/6/2009 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I looked briefly for some legitimate study, logic, thoery as to why this should help UC. I couldn't find anything pro that wasn't connected to a sources selling the stuff. It appears the unpasturized, unfiltered ACV have beneficial bacteria that supposed to populate the digestive tract...why not just take probiotics. The other beneits for diabetes and other do not have anything to do with ACV specifically, rather any vinegar would do the trick. 
 
 
Also, there are risks and don't get ripped off by these sellers...
From WebMD:
"...Unlike medicines, supplements are not regulated by the FDA.  They aren't routinely tested for effectiveness or even basic safety.  A 2005 study looked at the ingredients of eight different brands of apple cider vinegar supplements.  The researchers found that:
  • The ingredients listed on the box did not reflect the actual ingredients.
  • The ingredients varied a great deal between different brands.
  • The recommended dosages varied a great deal between brands.

Most disturbing, the chemical analysis of these samples led the researchers to doubt whether any of these brands actually contained any apple cider vinegar at all

  • Long-term use of apple cider vinegar could cause low potassium levels and lower bone density.  If you already have low potassium or osteoporosis, talk to your doctor before using apple cider vinegar.

  • Apple cider vinegar could theoretically interact with diuretics, laxatives, and medicines for diabetes and heart disease"
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    43, male, UC diagnosed in 1985
    Flares occur after some illness: food poisoning, flu, mono...
    Flares last 6 months to a year and lately involve several weeks of severe symptoms with lots of diarrhea, blood, pain, fever, dehydration.
    Remissions last 1 to 4 years and are absolute with no symptoms 
    Current Meds: 100 mg azathioprine, Colazal 9/day, Lialda 2/day,  60 mg 50 mg  60mg 80 mg prednisone
    Xanax, Valium for anxiety
    Tegretol XR for epilespy

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