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ElephantPipe
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   Posted 11/18/2009 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay, I'm sure most of you don't even want to think about laxatives lol, but I have a question. How do those glycerin suppositories work? I don't want to unintentionally exacerbate things. I've had to use them three times now. The second time was a week or two after the first, and a few days later (today) I used another. I wait in between even if it means not pooping for a couple days, I want to be safe. Any advice? I'm hoping once my Depo wears off I'll be back to normal and won't need them anymore.
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (mod-sev pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday (out) / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday /
2 Fiber Choice tabs 1xday / Depo for birth control
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


quincy
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   Posted 11/19/2009 2:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, from what I've read, the glycerin suppositories draw fluid to the area as well as cause mild irritation which causes contractions needed to push out stool.

So, actually....I'd assume you have low in the rectum inflammation which is causing the constipation....the glycerin suppositories won't help your inflammation,
You'd be better to use suppositories that will HELP the inflammation. Ultimately, that will help get your bms moving again.

You could also drink coffee in the morning...

quincy

Lou95
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   Posted 11/19/2009 4:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I've used the glycerin suppositories in the past and it made the bm more comfortable so I didn't tear my rectum. But, I use the baby kind that are very small and that may be the difference.
Age/Sex:  52 & female
Diagnosed:  2005 pancolitis
Medications:  800 mg. Asacol twice a day - in remission; Two 1200 mg. fish oil supplement nightly.   Effexor-XR 150 mg. daily
 


ElephantPipe
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   Posted 11/19/2009 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy, I think I might have low rectal inflammation still too, but I got so desperate for a poo I used the laxatives in the cabinet lol
 
As far as helpful suppositories, yeah, that'd be great, but I'm afraid to ask. My doctor said if I didn't get better after the Rowasa I took, she was going to put me on pred. Forget that. I'm hoping once this birth control finally wears off, I'll start getting back to normal.
 
I'm kinda wondering if I might also have a blockage problem? I mean I know obviously the poo is getting down there, but why else would I get sharp pains on the right side of my colon? Or maybe it's just from being backed up?
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (mod-sev pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday (out) / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday /
2 Fiber Choice tabs 1xday / Depo for birth control
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


quincy
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   Posted 11/20/2009 12:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Your doctor shouldn't be giving you that ultimatum....how long is her measuring stick for time allotted for Rowasa success?

Eventually, it will even out as the inflammation starts to heal...but with the Rowasa, how long have you been using it?

The fibre choice is a good idea, do you take it with meals?

It's possible that the birth control has a part in the flaring but low rectal inflammation is difficult to treat fully...

The pains on the right side could be ovarian, cecum, gas, or if it's higher, it could be liver (which we don't want to go there..lol.). The right side of the colon could be the small intestine working as well...depends on when you feel the pain.

What sometimes happens to me is if I check back about 6 hours from something that I know will give me gas...it usually shows up on the right side at that time, interestingly.

I'm in a very, very mild flare with low rectal inflammation precipitated by hemmies and fissures, I'm nauseated and although the gas isn't a problem, I do have discomfort in the rectum. I've been using Salofalk (same as Rowasa) as well as hemmie suppositories in the morning and ointment on my butt during the day. My stool has changed consistency to less and a bit thinner. I'm ticked and frustrated, but I'm wondering if my warranty is running out...lol...
I'll persist with the enemas and the external ointment and save the supps for if I get worse.

I have upped the psyllium to 5 capsules twice a day. At least, that's helping...but slight urgency is becoming frustrating as well. It's like my butt is too "oiled" up..haha....

So, I don't think you have a blockage problem...make sure you're eating enough foods and getting some exercise plus some fruit or veggies like salad and of course liquid. Persist with the enemas and refuse the pred. It all takes patience....tell the doc you'll wait it out.

I don't think you should use the glycerin supps for now...change your diet intake a bit and maybe drink some coffee to stimulate things..lol...

If you do get worse regarding bms, then be concerned...but if you're going once every two days, that's still in the realm of normal. If you're eating less food, then that will match your poo output.

quincy

ElephantPipe
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   Posted 11/21/2009 10:21 PM (GMT -6)   
She gave me two weeks and told me to call her, but I took it longer and never called. It didn't seem to help, just change the color of my poo. I'm not on it anymore. She only gave me one refill.

I also haven't been taking my fiber, maybe I should start up again. I usually take it in the morning with my meds.

I really think it's the birth control. On the pill I progressed to the point where I was seeing blood. The day I didn't take it, so I could go try a shot, my poo was perfect, and right on time. I'm pretty sure the pains are colon related, I notice them after I go sometimes, but they're probably happening during, too.

I don't have a hemmie anymore... everyyyy once in a while I get a sharp pain in my butt though. No urgency or pain other than that.
19yr old female diagnosed with UC (mod-sev pancolitis) in 2005 at age 15
125mg Azathioprine 1xday
2000mg Fish Oil 1xday (out) / 500mg Turmeric 3xday /
450mg Boswellia 2xday / 400IU Vitamin E 1xday /
2 Fiber Choice tabs 1xday / Depo for birth control
Arthritis in both knees
Also: asthma, acid reflux, and Reynaud's Syndrome


quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 25775
   Posted 11/22/2009 1:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi..when did you stop the Rowasa?

There are either 5ASA suppositories or steroid suppositories...maybe get the doc to prescribe you both. Use one kind in the morning, one kind at night

Do you take any vitamin C? sometimes upping that helps to soften the stool....

ARe you eating any fruits?

The exercise will help get things moving.

Hormonal stuff affects UC big-time.....

REgarding the Rowasa...I would have given it a longer trial....you're also not on any oral 5ASA med....except systemic Aza.

You have a lot going on....sometimes the body just makes a big deal about everything and it's difficult for it to get sorted out. Can you find another method for birth control...such as condoms and foam?

I'm frustrated for you....hope something starts working for you.

quincy

kops2da
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   Posted 11/22/2009 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope this is not hijacking.  Quincy - you said,
I'm nauseated and although the gas isn't a problem, I do have discomfort in the rectum.
Do you know what causes the nausea.  Mine came back - used to be only mornings and then I was having some in the daytime.  AND lots of gas that I have narrowed down to some dairy, I think!  I have no other symptoms.  No diarrhea, no blood, no urgency but this morning 3 BM's with last one very loose.  Seems ok now.  I don't have pain, cramping, left-sided hurting or backache as before.  I feel pretty good but still that nausea mornings and night sweating!!  YIKES!  I stopped the fish oil as it was the only thing I had new. Nausea gone mostly except little mornings until I eat.
ElaineNY
 
Senior - diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008  
Allergic to all mesalamines including rectal meds, etc. 
Prednisone for about 4 months - tried 6 MP with no help.
Rectal meds only made bleeding, etc. worse. 
No prescriptions as of yesterday!  Hoping for best and possibly adding other supplements. Now treating only with Imodium and Pepto Bismal and below....
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


quincy
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   Posted 11/22/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi....you know, I quit the fishoil as well...was going to search for that thread. I stopped 2 days ago. I'm thinking still that fishoil doesn't agree with me, it also makes my stool looser.

My hemmies have subsided and the fissures are soon to be healed as well....

I had added q-10 as well as another vitamin C plus a Beta Glucan. I quit all 4 and will add one at a time for a few days except the fish oil. I'll eat salmon any time I go out if it's offered, so I think for me that fish oil isn't for me.

I skipped the rectal med last night and just used a hemmie suppository today....aside for a b of a headache I've had for 2 days, I'm not nauseated at least.

Could be a combo but you and I may be in the same butt boat,,lol.

q

kops2da
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   Posted 11/22/2009 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   

LOL - to  "butt boat".  I felt like my BM's were just "sliding" through if you know what I mean?  My NP said that I could quit the fishoil if it bothered me as my good chloresteral was great and would offset the not so good tryglicerides.  I was just hoping because I don't take oral meds for UC and rarely the rectal meds maybe fishoil would help heal or keep it healed.  I know I am not "ok" as they say because of gas and occasional diarrhea.  But, then again - could be my IBS.  When I use the Cortifoam for more than once I get "sore" outside, etc.

I truly hate the idea that I have to deal with this at my age but then thankful I have not had it all my life either. By the way, salmon makes me very sick every time I eat it - I wake up with more nausea and gas.  You might know it would work backwards for me and I love it! 

ElaineNY


 
Senior - diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008  
Allergic to all mesalamines including rectal meds, etc. 
Prednisone for about 4 months - tried 6 MP with no help.
Rectal meds only made bleeding, etc. worse. 
No prescriptions as of yesterday!  Hoping for best and possibly adding other supplements. Now treating only with Imodium and Pepto Bismal and below....
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 25775
   Posted 11/23/2009 3:31 AM (GMT -6)   
haha...I could have written sh..creek..wink/wink

Yeah, the sliding through stuff is what seemed to make sense too....and a few days ago, I saw on "the doctors" show which I don't watch often...it was suggested to try fish oil to help prevent "sticky stools". Things have improve imensely since stopping it.

I had salmon tonight on naan bread..yum. no problems, although canned salmon does give me gas. go figure.

q

kops2da
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Total Posts : 2865
   Posted 11/23/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, wrote a whole thing about how salmon makes me sick but too tired to type it over when I lost it.  LOL
Thanks for your replies - I always appreciate them.  Just wish I could wake up one morning without the nausea and feeling good - never happen!!
I have a new primary care doctor to meet on December 11 - he is younger than my son LOL!  I am hoping he (working with my GI doc) can help with things like nausea and sweating maybe.  Hate them both. 
This week is our Thanksgiving.  We go to my sisters house and it is 100 miles one way.  I know all the bathrooms along the way (mostly in the country) and I get up three hours before we leave - eat toast and take Imodium.  Should be ok.  I only eat a very little of the plain food.  I miss the stuffing and things like that!
ElaineNY
 
Senior - diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008  
Allergic to all mesalamines including rectal meds, etc. 
Prednisone for about 4 months - tried 6 MP with no help.
Rectal meds only made bleeding, etc. worse. 
No prescriptions as of yesterday!  Hoping for best and possibly adding other supplements. Now treating only with Imodium and Pepto Bismal and below....
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 


quincy
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Date Joined May 2003
Total Posts : 25775
   Posted 11/23/2009 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
You're not diabetic are you?...at least get checked for it.

Hope you enjoy the gathering with family more than missing the meal...although the meal is truly the hilight of Thanksgiving. I LOVE turkey dinners!!

WEll, no problems this morning...I'll start adding the other stuff one by one......I keep on trying and it's definitely consistent that fishoil is out.

So, that's 2 for no fishoil..lol.

q

kops2da
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Date Joined Jun 2008
Total Posts : 2865
   Posted 11/23/2009 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   

quincy - no I am not diabetic - have it checked often.  Does not run in my family either.  My husband is diabetic but takes no medicine - seems under control right now. 

Fishoil OUT!  Got it!  Here, too, I believe.  Today I had some diarrhea this morning - took Imodium before going to Walmart.  I ate terrible yesterday including rice pudding and a hotdog - love those!  So, feeling ok now.  At least no blood or mucous that I could see.

By the way, I really don't care for turkey but love the cassoroles - you know veggies with sauce, etc.  I will eat some mashed potatoes without gravy, little turkey and probably small dessert of some kind.  OH, and a roll!!

ElaineNY


 
Senior - diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis - 6/2008  
Allergic to all mesalamines including rectal meds, etc. 
Prednisone for about 4 months - tried 6 MP with no help.
Rectal meds only made bleeding, etc. worse. 
No prescriptions as of yesterday!  Hoping for best and possibly adding other supplements. Now treating only with Imodium and Pepto Bismal and below....
Probiotic Align, Prilosec for GERD, Gas-X, vitamins, Calcium/D
Tylenol for knees and arthritis.
 
 
 

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