Somewhat OT-Can canker sores get infected?

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Malkavian
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:24 PM (GMT -7)   
So can canker sores get infected? I'm asking because I have one that is rather large and painful, and it seems to be oozing a bit.

Also, if I need to get it checked out, would I go to a doctor or a dentist?
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently on lialda 4x/day, calcium and d, B12, yogurt
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


fruitgirl
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:27 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't know!
My husband gets them all the time, so I got him a product called Canker Covers. I've seen them in quite a few stores (WalMart, drugstores, etc). He's had three canker sores since I got them and each time, the canker sore went away right away and didn't get nearly as painful as they usually do. Maybe give them a try?
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Malkavian
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:29 PM (GMT -7)   
I might actually-have to hit up walmart for lens wipes and a winter hat anyway. Where do they usually carry them in the store?
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently on lialda 4x/day, calcium and d, B12, yogurt
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


fruitgirl
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Over in the pharmacy area...I know that's REALLY specific! I think I found the ones I bought for my husband near the toothpaste, but it was at a Fred Meyer store (kind of similar to a supercenter).
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basa0806
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm sure it can. There's lots of bacteria in your mouth. If you can't find the canker covers there's this stuff called kanka that's kind of like orajel that you put on the canker sore and it numbs it.
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Malkavian
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   Posted 1/4/2010 5:50 PM (GMT -7)   
I already have some orajel...is the kanka different in any way?
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently on lialda 4x/day, calcium and d, B12, yogurt
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


quincy
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   Posted 1/5/2010 1:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Anything open can get infected from bacteria or yeast because both are in our mouths.

Where in your mouth is the canker? You might want to consider to get it checked and swabbed, for if it is infected, you might need an appropriate med to help.

You might also consider to use a salt water rinse a few times a day. Salt is great for helping the mouth heal.

q

Malkavian
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   Posted 1/5/2010 6:53 AM (GMT -7)   
It's right below my teeth, in the front of my mouth. I've been rinsing with salt and peroxide the past two or so days. Doesn't seem as grumpy, but it's still huge.
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently on lialda 4x/day, calcium and d, B12, yogurt
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


quincy
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   Posted 1/5/2010 12:02 PM (GMT -7)   
It'll probably take about a week or so for it to heal....unless you scratch it with your toothbrush or food. Yowchie!

I use Orajel for Mouth Sores. That one specifically has zinc in it to help heal....and it helps a lot. I've not tried the Canker Covers, but that would probably be a good idea to try.

You could also open a probiotic capsule and apply it onto the area to help if it's infected...it might even help heal.

Keep us posted.

quincy

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   Posted 1/5/2010 12:32 PM (GMT -7)   
The good thing about the Canker Covers is that they actually stick on the sore and keep it covered. My husband said it stays on for him for almost 24 hours...longer than what the package claims. So I think that has a lot to do with why it heals faster, as you're not accidentally biting it, messing with it subconsicously, or having food irritate it.
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   Posted 1/5/2010 4:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Malkavian said...
So can canker sores get infected? I'm asking because I have one that is rather large and painful, and it seems to be oozing a bit.

Also, if I need to get it checked out, would I go to a doctor or a dentist?


Yes, definitely, if you are me. My sores get infected all the time, and they don't have to be a canker sore to get infected.

In such cases, I don't bother to see a doctor. If I did, I'd always be going to the doctor. I would just try to keep the area cool and dry. Bacteria love warm and damp areas. They don't thrive as well in cool and dry climates. They infection usually goes away on its own. If you find the infection is not improving on its own, then you can see a dermatologist. They will prescribe something to put on it. It could be an antibiotic though, which is another reason I usually allow the infection to get better on its own.
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What works for me: Fecal transplantation, Probiotics, Anti-inflammatory foods, No HFCS, No crystalline fructose, No foods high in fructose, No artificial sweeteners, No pro-inflammatory foods when flaring, Vitamins, Lexapro (for stress).


Malkavian
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   Posted 1/5/2010 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
fruitgirl-I went to walmart today and couldn't find them...was so dissappointed.

quincy-I might have scratched it, I dunno. I've never seen orajel with zinc, either.

subdued-I've been dabbing with peroxide and rinsing with saline. I hope that ends up working.
22, female, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Mild ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon
Currently on lialda 4x/day, calcium and d, B12, yogurt
Things that help: probiotics, omega 3's, oral 5-ASAs, low fiber when flaring, soluble fiber, low saturated fat diet
Things that hurt: insoluble fiber, fried or spicy food, caffeine, alcohol, rectal meds when not flaring


killcolitis
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   Posted 1/5/2010 8:02 PM (GMT -7)   
I've used manuka honey (honey from tea tree plants) - should be factor 16 or above, or wild oregano oil. Both are anti microbal and really do the trick
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