Colon hydrotherapy for colonoscopy prep?

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Susiebuddy
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   Posted 2/12/2010 1:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey everyone :)

I don't know how you all feel about this... but I'd do it for sure in place of drinking a half gallon of yuk or taking 32 pills...

I just wanted to see what you all think about doing something like this instead? I don't know about cost, but I'd pay big bucks to avoid nausea and vomiting and pooping for 12 or more hours..... lol... P

I hope it's ok to post this link :)

http://www.robertjordanhealthservices.com/colonics/colonoscopy.shtml
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   Posted 2/12/2010 8:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not sure on this one (and don't quote me on this) but I *think* that colonics are highly discouraged for people with Uc and that it can only reach so high into the colon. Whereas the prep we do for a scope is designed to clean from the top to bottom which is what is needed for a colonoscopy. Maybe you should call your GI just to see if this is an option?
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 2/12/2010 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I used to really be interested in this procedure, then I realized it would do more harm than good, for sure. People in the Western world are so obsessed with "internal cleanliness".... the body is a self-cleaning organism, I don't think there's a need to try to clean it more thoroughly. Yes, I've heard the arguments about the Western diet conflicting with the ability to cleanse oneself, but then change your diet, I say. Introducing anything into the body is not something we should take lightly. For a scope prep, I highly doubt a GI would approve of this- check with your doc, give it a shot, but I think they'd laugh & state they prefer "their" method! Even using a standard prep throws the body off balance, the good bacterias all off kilter, the constipation some experience after scopes, the dehydration, etc.

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
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suebear
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   Posted 2/12/2010 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   

Colonics are hype and can be dangerous.  Do you really want a non-MD poking something up your butt?  Especially if your colon is fragile due to inflammation. 

Sue


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1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics

2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic

2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free


NuffinButtTrouble
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   Posted 2/12/2010 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Susiebuddy said...
Hey everyone :)

I don't know how you all feel about this... but I'd do it for sure in place of drinking a half gallon of yuk or taking 32 pills...

I just wanted to see what you all think about doing something like this instead? I don't know about cost, but I'd pay big bucks to avoid nausea and vomiting and pooping for 12 or more hours..... lol... P

I hope it's ok to post this link :)

http://www.robertjordanhealthservices.com/colonics/colonoscopy.shtml


Hi Susie,

I hope you are doing well and I hope you will have a fun filled weekend.

In regards to colon hydrotherapy, I doubt there's anyone on this board that has done it more than me...it IS very beneficial FOR ME especially when I'm in a bad flare, the recovery time is much, much shorter.

BUT...

I DO NOT recommend it for most UC sufferers because your colon must be in good shape (having no ulcers ) before they will do it. You simply cannot have a colonix done without consulting your GI first, because if your colon is in bad shape, a colonix could cause a rupture. The process involves massaging your stomach vigorously to help remove waste from your colon, so your colon must be able to handle that.


So my advice is do the prep the normal way...I know it's horrible, but it is the best thing to do for your colon unless your colon is in great shape.... and your GI is the only person to make that determination.

ps.
When I have a colonix done, like I did a couple of weeks ago...I always have an implant, where they flush good bacteria (probiotics) into the colon, so I'm not losing my good bacteria. In my case, a flare can last between two and four weeks before diet brings it under control, but with a colonix I recover within 3 to 7 days...but it's not cheap.

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Diagnosed: Ulcerative Colitis January 2007, but had symptoms long before
Herbal Parasite Killers: Cloves 500mg, Super W Blend 365mg, Black Walnut Hull Tincture
Probiotics: Culturelle x5 daily (x3 in the AM and x2 in the PM)
Multi-vitamins: Centrum x1 daily, Hema-Plex (Iron) x1 daily, B12, Copper, Zinc
Therapy: Initially did Colon Hydrotherapy, but not needed now.
Diet: No processed/refined sugars
Results: Colon has healed itself of ulcers and is 100% normal.

Post Edited (NuffinButtTrouble) : 2/12/2010 12:44:35 PM (GMT-7)


zetlandgirl
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   Posted 2/12/2010 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with previous post, I asked GI and they warned that could rupture bowel!
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Diagnosed with UC in May 2006 whilst in Australia, not yet visited the place called remission! In heart am adrenaline junkie, avid traveller and exercise fanatic, still try my best but illness often takes a lot away from my experiences these days.

Tried lots different meds including Azathioprine, Sulfasalazine, Asacol, enemas etc, lots Prednisolone (to blame for current 1.5 stone weight gain), as well as elimination diets (tried eliminating most things), herbalism, accupuncture, yoga, supplements, meditation, kinesiology..... always trying new things just in case!

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ickypoo
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   Posted 2/12/2010 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't understand the criticisms being leveled at this procedure. The link provided by Susiebuddy is to a news report on a gastroenterologist using this technique as an alternative to the laxative blitzkrieg currently in use. Provided this is a legitimate news report (it certainly looks real), we are not talking about a new age therapy here.

To me, it sounds intriguing. I can see the advantages of this kind of approach. I do agree with the other posters to the extent of being wary of doing this outside of your doctors' instructions. If he/she is not comfortable with this method, then I would definitely stick with their proscription.

I will raise this possibility with my GI the next time I see her. Might be on to something here. Thanks Susiebuddy for bringing this to our attention.
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Ugh Just Ugh
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   Posted 2/12/2010 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting report! I suspect we will see some resistance to the hydro therapy from insurance companies though. They'd probably much rather have us use the prep at home no matter how awful it is.

Susiebuddy
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   Posted 2/12/2010 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I called a place near my house and they have done it for colonoscopy preps with much success! They did inform me that most GI's don't recommend it yet, but the clients that have done it as a prep reported excellent results.... It costs about 60 bucks a session... I'll probably have it done 2 days in a row, one the day before my scope and one right before my scope... 120 bucks is WELL worth it to me, especially if I only have to spend that much every 5 or 10 years... heck even every year would be worth it to me.. lol... The procedure takes about 45 minutes to an hour and they just gently flush your colon out repeatedly using warm filtered water with gentle abdominal massage until the water comes out totally clear. I'm going to be a guinea pig and give it a try and I'll let you know how it goes...

P.S.. My colon is in pretty good shape right now so I should be fine :) OH GOSH.. I hope it works, what a solution this would be!~
 Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis January 31st, 2005
 
Prior Meds:
Canasa, Rowasa, Lialda, Apriso, Prednisone, 1 infusion of Remicade.. none of those worked for too long... Had neurological complications from the Remicade...
 
Current Meds:
Pentasa 2000mg 2x a day, Nexium 40mg once a day, Wellbutrin 150mg once a day. Culturelle 2x a day, Xanax as needed and Ambien at night for sleep..  
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 2/12/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
And your GI's fine with it? Well good luck! I have heard good & bad about colonics, so I'll definitely be interetsed in hearing how your experience pans out. Also how it does as a prep, if it gets everything out, etc. When do you plan on having a scope, soon?
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement
 
 
 


Susiebuddy
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   Posted 2/12/2010 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
My Scope is scheduled for March 4th, in the afternoon, so it will be good to have the hydrotherapy session completed about 1 hour before the scope. Plus I'm going in the day before for one also. I'm going to go on a liquid diet starting on Tuesday afternoon, then Wednesday I have a therapy session at 3:30pm, staying on liquids the rest of that day, then I'll go in about 2 hours before my scope and get the second session, being done about 30min to 1 hour before the actual scope. OMG.. the lady doing my therapy couldn't have been nicer and more reassuring... I'm very hopeful that this will work~

It's supposed to be very gentle compared to standard preps and I figure, what's better to be passing through your colon... large quantities of chemicals violently rushing through, or warm purified water that has been filtered and sterilized, gently going in and out again? I'm sure it's not completely without some discomfort, as they are filling your colon completely with water several times, but after doing a bunch of research about it, I'm pretty confident that it will work for me.. without having to suffer so terribly the afternoon and night before.

OH... I did a search on that GI and also the two reporters and it is legit... The GI is the Section Chief of Staff at Danbury Hospital in CT. The one reporter, Keith Kountz has been with that station for more than 20 years and the other reporter is the health and medicine correspondent.

I hope I don't seem like I'm going "Weird"... but I'm just so terrified.. TERRIFIED about doing the standard prep as it made me so sick the last time I did it that I'm desperate for a better way!!!!!
 Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis January 31st, 2005
 
Prior Meds:
Canasa, Rowasa, Lialda, Apriso, Prednisone, 1 infusion of Remicade.. none of those worked for too long... Had neurological complications from the Remicade...
 
Current Meds:
Pentasa 2000mg 2x a day, Nexium 40mg once a day, Wellbutrin 150mg once a day. Culturelle 2x a day, Xanax as needed and Ambien at night for sleep..  
       http://www.myspace.com/77016897  

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