Early morning BM and Cramping

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KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
My current state is 1-3 bms a day, mostly one or two (sometimes 3 on weekends when daily routine changes). I am not having any bleeding right now and things are just a touch urgent but not too bad. So I dont consider myself to be flaring really although some may disagree I guess I go by what I can and can not do and right now I am not being pulled away from work, play, etc.
 
My only concern is this . Every single morning when I wake up..be it at 6 or 7 or whenever I wake up..after being awake for  a few min and lying there I get some cramping and need to have a bm right away. If that BM is a big one..then that will be it for the day. If its a small qty, I will most likely have another in a couple hours but after lunch I rarely go anymore.
 
Does this happen to anyone that is in remission? I mean the morning cramping and having to have a bm as soon as you get up?
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


Supa
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I have always been a morning pooper as well since this disease. Even in remission, first thing in the morning was my time of day, and it was just like you described-if it was a large one, that was usually it for the day, otherwise, I might have up to 3 BMs. No blood or urgency or anything-I didn't have cramping then either, but it was always (still is now in a flare too) that within maybe 10-15 minutes of getting up, I had to go. It is more urgent now while I am flaring. Whereas while I was in remission, I could get up and get myself cleaned up and such, now as soon as I wake up, my bowels seem to as well and within minutes I need to get to the toilet.

It seems to me that many UC'ers have more trouble first thing in the morning. I know that is always my most challenging time of day for sure.
Laura
34 years old, stay at home mom of 2 girls, ages 4 and 3
Diagnosed in March 2007, symptoms started Dec. 2006
Currently on:
Asacol 6pills/day
OUT of Humira trial-it stopped working
Back on pred (40mg), Rowasa nightliy, Canasa 1000mg in the AM
Also take multivitamins, milk thistle, VSL#3 (2-4 packets daily right now), Ulimate Flora Critical Care, MegaZyme, Turmeric, Bee Propolis, Omega 3, Slippery Elm and PepZin daily. P-seed powder as well (2t. in the AM) Waiting to see what comes next...


80sChick
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:11 AM (GMT -6)   
That has always been how things are for me. Even in "remission" I have to set aside 2-3 hours to get all the pooping out of the way. When I'm flaring it's worse.
28 Year old Female
Diagnosed with Crohn's Colitis March 2000
Recent possible diagnosis of IBS-D
 
Tried Meds: Asacol, Remicade, 6mp, Humira, Xifaxan, Apriso, Imuran, Rowasa Enemas, Colocort Enemas.
 
Tried Probiotics: Align (with no change except bloating) and VSL #3 DS (AWFUL diarrhea).
 
Currently on: 30mg Prednisone (Tapering SLOWLY from 40), Psyllium Seed Powder, Prenatal Vitamin, Vitamin B 12 Complex, Vitamin D/Calcium, Vesicare (for urinary retention). 


kweeks
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
krissyuc- you described me exactly!! those are my exact symptoms except for now i have been experiencing more cramping at different times of the day :(

Malkavian
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Usually for me, I'd have one bm in the morning with some cramping during my remissions. Sometimes I'd have an extra one later in the day as well.
22/Female/NJ
Ulcerative colitis from rectum to mid transverse colon, diagnosed 3/6/2009, symptoms for 2 years beforehand
Flaring and feeling like crap
Currently on lialda 4x/day, azithioprine 100 mg/day, Prednisone 40 mg, rowasa 1x nightly, calcium and d, B12, yogurt, fish oil
Allergies: penicillin, sulfa, bee stings, environmental (especially ragweed!), OTC meds as needed


KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
ok So do you all think im headed towards remission?
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/4/2010 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
absolutely! Try not to worry too much. Once you're back from your surgery, get on the enemas and the pills and you'll be feeling better.

I would suggest you reconsider to go on a low residue diet, however...that will give you smaller bms. Keep your nutrition consistent while going through this weekend.

You're much better off to have morning bms anyway. Your body's on a good schedule.....it's knowing what to expect.

For me, when not flaring, I will sometimes have more bms in the morning depending on what I've eaten the day before. And if it's smaller bms, I'm not as good because I know another one will be soon in coming.

q

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
see thats why i dont get though..i cant remember what its like to be normal..but I think I just went once a day and it could have been at any time..I have no idea if more came after small bms either..i just know it was once a day at random times...

why should i NOT do low res?
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/4/2010 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm suggesting for you to maintain as much "normalcy" as possible. If you change too many things, you'll start to worry about another issue.

Low residue will lessen your bms anyway....I'd rather go than feel like I have to go. you don't have diarrhea...different issue.

What is it again that you do for a living? You should definitely be in something that utilises your natural skills...lol.

Seriously and teasing at the same time....no digs.

quincy

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 2:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe I could a talk show host? they ask a lot of questions...lol
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/4/2010 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Yep, could be an option!!! LOL.
Or a CSI...

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
nooo too much of a scaredy cat for that lol

seriously though..i wont go low res cause i only have 1 or 2 bms to lessen LOL and than I will be corked up if I have no bms..i dont want that either..oh dear I had that when I was preggo ..I would scream to get a small pellet out it was awful!
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/4/2010 3:22 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
absolutely! Try not to worry too much. Once you're back from your surgery, get on the enemas and the pills and you'll be feeling better.


q

What about the cramping though..if the BM is normal with no blood..why the cramping eary in the morning only?
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/4/2010 3:45 PM (GMT -6)   
could be gas.

you still have inflammation in the rectum.

your butt is on a timer, it could be your normal time to go but the fact that you have inflammation causes things to move faster.

could be IBS...i'd say you have lots on your mind with your surgery in a few days.

Of course, I didn't ask where your cramping is....

An antispasmodic could help.

q

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/5/2010 9:03 AM (GMT -6)   
cramping is low in the ab like a period...its comes on quickly as soon as i awake and once i go its gone..
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/5/2010 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
not in the rectum at all?

I'd say inflammation and some spasming during the extreme peristalsis to rid the inflamed area of poo quickly.



The butt rules..lol.
q

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/5/2010 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
no not in the rectum..just some cramps in the lower ab that forces me outta bed and onto the can..

Peristalisis? but wouldnt that be after i eat? this is happening as soon as i open my eyes in the morning..
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


quincy
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   Posted 3/5/2010 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
bingo!

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/5/2010 2:27 PM (GMT -6)   
sorry im confused now :S
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better


Disneynut66
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   Posted 3/5/2010 4:17 PM (GMT -6)   
This describes me to a T...although I think I am starting a flare. I am bleeding during the BM. I have to run to the bathroom then sit for about 15 minutes going all the while cramping. Then I'm done and usually don't cramp the rest of the day even if I have more BMs.

quincy
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   Posted 3/6/2010 10:26 AM (GMT -6)   
The urge to go is if there's anything in the rectum or sigmoid. Depending on how much inflammation one has and how fast one's peristalsis is or spasming or whatever.

Do you not get up during the night to pee? do you get the urge for a bm then?

I'd say once your inflammation has ceased, your urge to go that quickly will ease as well. You might still have the urge for a bm, but not that urgent.

q

KrissyUC
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   Posted 3/9/2010 10:24 AM (GMT -6)   
No, if I get up to pee, I dont have to have a BM...

I know where that urge may be coming from but what about the cramps??

ps surery was canclled yesterday~! grrrrrrr
27 yr old female
UC since Aug 2006
Been a constant battle since Feb 08 after the birth of my son
HUMIRA JUL2008- JAN 2010
Salofalk 9 pills a day
Salofalk Suppositories 1g each night at the moment
Fish oil, VSL, Vit D, Vit C, Vit B12 3x weekly Flax oil, reduced red meat, refined grains and dairy
 
 
Current Status: 1-3 BM a day, no blood, urgency issues getting better

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