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songlady
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   Posted 5/20/2010 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been asked a number of times how I make this, so I thought a new thread with this as title might help - now anyone can do a "search" of the site and find it.
I don't follow the SCD but I do make my own yogurt. This article from the New York Times inspired me to start doing it, about a year ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/dining/15curi.html

I started with a purchased container of Dannon; I think it might have even been French Vanilla or something! I put about 2 Tablespoons into a quart canning jar.
I heated milk, about 3 1/2 cups, to just almost boiling (I microwave it.) Let the milk come back to lukewarmish (not too hot or it'll kill the starter yogurt).. then pour it onto the canning jar on the starter yogurt, and put on the lid.
I wrap the jar in two kitchen towels and leave it undisturbed on the kitchen counter for 24 hours, then put it into the fridge.

After that first time, I've taken the last few Tablespoons' worth of my yogurt, have put into a second canning jar, and added warmed milk, covered it, etc., as above.

I've used mostly 1 % milk, but sometimes have mixed in some whole milk, sometimes have added non-fat dry milk powder... none of that changes it too much. The consistency is liquidy, like a yogurt drink. I use it with my morning cereal instead of milk (great with Special K!) Sometimes it's mild, other times tangy...I imagine that's because of the ambient kitchen temperature.

In essence I make "24 hour yogurt" - it ferments that long before I put it into the fridge.

(And do you know how I make "36 hour yogurt" - ? I make it one morning, forget about it until the following night, and go, "OOOPS!!!" Doesn't seem to hurt the finished product.)

I have never poured it through a cheesecloth to get thicker, Greek-style yogurt, but that sounds yummy.
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Asacol - 16 pills/day, cortenemas, Rowasa
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homemade yogurt each day
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SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/20/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I use one gallon of whole milk at a time. I also add 2 packs of VSL#3 in the batch. With VSL#3, the yogurt thickens overnight. It always comes out with consistency of Jello and gets even thicker as it loses water over days as I dig into it. I run 3/4 th of it thru a blender to make buttermilk (add some water to make it a bit thin). I drink a glass of the buttermilk every night before going to bed. The rest of the yogurt, I eat for breakfast. A batch of one gallon generally lasts about 10 days.
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AZYooper
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   Posted 5/20/2010 1:37 PM (GMT -7)   
I pretty much follow the NYTmes directions but I make a gallon using whole milk at a time. Heat in a rigged double boiler(2 nested stainless pans) to 185. Cool to 115 in a sink of water add 1/2 cup of the previous batch. I place the mix in 4 quart canning jars and cap them. I put the jars in a small cooler with a electric hot pad set at medium. It keeps the yogurt between 100-105. Watch your temps from start to finish with a baby formula thermometer that is what makes it taste good. When I am done fermenting I place the jars in a sink of cold water to cool them quick.

I would like to try the VSL#3 culture but have been using Mountain high plain. Dannon plain worked in the past. Killing the enzymes by heating to 185 and watching temps makes using added non-fat dry milk unnecessary. Comes out nice and thick. I have been increasing fermenting time and am up to 12 hours with no acid taste. Might try a full 24 hours next

I guess my former beer making hobby has been put to use. Very similar process.
Diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis as my 50th birthday present Dec 2009
4.8 grams Asacol HD plus 1000mg canasa daily for 8 weeks

Now on 1.6 gr Asacol HD daily,fish oil, homemade yogurt, pscillium husk,glucosamine sulfate,turmeric and Mutaflor(e. coli nissle).

Will begin fazing in boswellia,s. boulardii, and bromelain for both UC and/or back/joint inflammation soon.


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/20/2010 3:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Boy, I wish I was making beer rather than yogurt, but my gut doesn't handle it that well....
One thing I forgot to mention. Yogurt sets better in earthen pot. I use unglazed ceramic pot for my batch.
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Currently on Asacol 3 X 4
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beeswax
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   Posted 5/20/2010 3:51 PM (GMT -7)   
You guys are motivating me to want to make yogurt again. I got into it a couple of years ago when I tried the SCD diet (gave up on that). I actually bought a yogurt maker but I think it was probably a waste of money as there seem to be more creative solutions. I used skim milk when I made it and greek yogurt for my starter. The yogurt maker came with instructions for heating temp and cooling.
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AZYooper
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   Posted 5/20/2010 3:56 PM (GMT -7)   
The yogurt makers do the easy part. I already had a cooler, heat pad, and canning jars. The hard part is the heating of the milk and adding the culture at the right temp. It takes a while but you don't have to stand over the stove if you rig up a double boiler. No way will I take a chance heating in a regular pot. Boiling over milk makes one horrible mess.
Diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis as my 50th birthday present Dec 2009
4.8 grams Asacol HD plus 1000mg canasa daily for 8 weeks

Now on 1.6 gr Asacol HD daily,fish oil, homemade yogurt, pscillium husk,glucosamine sulfate,turmeric and Mutaflor(e. coli nissle).

Will begin fazing in boswellia,s. boulardii, and bromelain for both UC and/or back/joint inflammation soon.


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/20/2010 4:38 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree that boiling over milk makes a big mess. The whole house smells for hours. That said, I have to admit that I don't use a double boiler. I generally boil the milk over medium low while I am doing the dishes so I can keep an eye on it. Once boiled, I let it cool for 30 min - 1hr. Then add the culture from the previous batch and the VSL#3. and keep it in the oven (TURNED OFF). That's it. Very simple. It's sets overnight.
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UC diagnosed in summer 2004
Currently on Asacol 3 X 4
Also Fish oil, flax seed powder, psyllium husks and powder, benefiber, pro-biotic tablets...


Eva Lou
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   Posted 5/20/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I've got you all beat, as far as the easy factor ! I make my own kefir, which is very similar to yogurt. You just put the grains in a Mason jar, pour milk over them, cover & let sit 'til it's as thick as you want it to be. I sit mine out for about 2 days. Then strain off the kefir, dump the grains into new jar, repeat all over again. If you happen to come across live kefir grains anywhere, grab 'em up! It's similar to yogurt, but even better in terms of the amount of living cultures in it. I use 1% milk, just personal preference, but it can be done with any type- soy, coconut, almond, any fat pecentage, etc.
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement, kefir, turmeric
 
 
 


beeswax
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   Posted 5/20/2010 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Eva Lou, Wow, That sounds great! Where do you usually find kefir? I am going to google it...
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Present: Lialda 4.8 gm a day; Fish Oil, Calcium/Vitamin D, Folic Acid, Vitamin D 50,000 unit once a week; Diagnosed UP 1993/Diagnosed UC 8/08; Reclast for Osteoporosis 12/09; Past: Remicade/Asacol/Rowasa/Anucort/Canasa/ Prednisone 2/10/10 last day! (this time...) In remission since February, 2010


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/20/2010 6:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah, I've heard about it. Need to find out where I can get it in the Silicon Valley.
Male 42
UC diagnosed in summer 2004
Currently on Asacol 3 X 4
Also Fish oil, flax seed powder, psyllium husks and powder, benefiber, pro-biotic tablets...


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 5/20/2010 6:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I am the master yogurt maker! I have a yogurt maker and I have Bulgarian and Greek cultures. I love Bulgarian. I use half cream and half whole milk to make the thick type of yogurt. I have strained through a cheese cloth and made tzatziki, it's excellent. I also flavor mine with vanilla extract before fermenting, it's yummy. My problem with making yogurt is that you make a LOT and I can't at that much. Then I end up having to make it every 7 days so the cultures don't die. I can't keep up with that kind of commitment sadly. Next time I am going to freeze the cultures and make it less often. http://culturesforhealth.com/ is a great site for purchasing organic starters. I don't like using the store bought stuff, sometimes those unnecessary contain sweetners or firming agents like pectin (not SCD safe).
March 07: Diagnosed with mild proctitis - Canasa as needed
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ElephantPipe
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   Posted 5/20/2010 8:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I was gonna ask you how to do this.
And, you're a mod?? That's cool.
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125mg Azathioprine 1xday / Rowasa 1xday
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Eva Lou
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   Posted 5/21/2010 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
I lucked out, a woman I work with had grains & she gave me some to start with. She got them off of freecycle.org. The grains multiply, so I have found myself with about 2-3 cups worth. You only need a few tablespoons to culture a large Mason jar of milk, so I have the extra grains stashed in my fridge, sleeping. I'd be more than happy to share with you guys! I just need to figure out how to mail them & we'd be good to go- you only need about 2 T to start, & you culture a few batches to get the grains out of hibernation. It's REALLY good- I use it to make fruit smoothies every day. And, the cultures in kefir actually culture your intestinal tract, whereas yogurts probiotics are transient, they run thru you. I personally have noticed a difference in my bowel habits, more formed, less blood, etc. since I started drinking it regularly. I also put up a notice at my local health food store for free grains, but so far, no calls. Let me know if anyone wants some grains, I think you can just email me. If you look it up on the internet, it's amazing stuff.

diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement, kefir, turmeric
 
 
 


beeswax
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   Posted 5/21/2010 11:01 AM (GMT -7)   
Eva Lou, That is very nice of you to offer. I am going to see if I can find some locally as there are several whole food stores around me, including a food coop, that may carry it :D
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Present: Lialda 4.8 gm a day; Fish Oil, Calcium/Vitamin D, Folic Acid, Vitamin D 50,000 unit once a week; Diagnosed UP 1993/Diagnosed UC 8/08; Reclast for Osteoporosis 12/09; Past: Remicade/Asacol/Rowasa/Anucort/Canasa/ Prednisone 2/10/10 last day! (this time...) In remission since February, 2010


songlady
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   Posted 5/21/2010 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Eva Lou, I tried brewing kefir last spring - a friend gave me grains - but it was watery and, frankly, not tasty. I kept it up for a few months and then just let it go. I wonder if there was something off with the grains, or...? Hmmm. I've had much better success at the yogurt, although it doesn't have as many cultures as kefir.
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Age 54. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Prednisone almost 2 years, 86-88
Asacol - 16 pills/day, cortenemas, Rowasa
Metamucil - 2 doses/day since '86
VSL#3DS, Multivitamin, Calcium and D
homemade yogurt each day
hip replacement 4/5/10
Son, 16, dx pancolitis 2007


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/21/2010 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I have seen Kefir in whole food and some middle eastern stores in the Bay Area, but I guess you need to find a place that has the grains and not just the kefir in a bottle? Is that right?
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notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 5/21/2010 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   
You can buy the cultures on culturesforhealth.com. I bought a kombucha tea mushroom there. All these cultures require constant upkeep. I can't keep up with it. I have stopped making everything for now, I don't like having milk in the house all the time. The mushroom thing required a lot of brewing sugar tea and constantly giving the mushroom fresh tea otherwise it can't survive.
March 07: Diagnosed with mild proctitis - Canasa as needed
August 08 - December 08: Flare & Anemic - Started Asacol
January 09 - December 09: Remission!!
December 09 - January 10: Massive Flare - Asacol + Prednisone + Canasa / Colazal
Current: Mild Active Pancolitis: Prednisone, Lialda, Cort Enemas, Canasa


downgarden
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   Posted 5/22/2010 4:44 AM (GMT -7)   
you go to an eco milk farm.

Take the crap from a new pooped cow. Put the cows crap in Kefir (or simular) for 12 hours, rinse it and put the in a new bucket with kefir, about 4 times.

This should give some outstanding bacteria culture.

I never tried it myself thou :)

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   Posted 5/22/2010 8:02 AM (GMT -7)   
well my offer stands- if anyone wants any grains, let me know & I'll get 'em sent thru the mail. As far as constant upkeep goes, I haven't found the kefir to require too much- it's basically pouring a glass of milk & letting it sit for about 36 hours. The longer you let it sit, the thicker it gets. It is sort of sour, by itself. Comparable to thin sour cream. I mix mine with fruit & agave nextar to make shakes.
Plus, the first 2-3 batches are really meant to be dumped out- they get the grains active again. You can certainly buy kefir in the grocery store, health food store, etc. but it's been pasteurized & does not have nearly the amount of living cultures that homemade kefir has. But, it's a good start!
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement, kefir, turmeric
 
 
 


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/26/2010 4:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you all for making me to act. I just got my Kefir grains in the mail. Have set them in the milk. Can't wait till tomorrow to see how it turns up. Will keep you all posted.
Male 42
UC diagnosed in summer 2004
Currently on Asacol 3 X 4
Also Fish oil, flax seed powder, psyllium husks and powder, benefiber, pro-biotic tablets...


Eva Lou
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   Posted 5/27/2010 7:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Cool! If you have any questions, ask away- I've become the kefir queen. It may take more than 1 day for your first batch to culture- the grains go to "sleep" when they're not active for awhile. Also, the first 1 or 2 batches may be sour, thick, & yukky- don't be discouraged! Use about a cup of milk, dump it out when it gets real thick, & start over again. After a couple batches your kefir will be really good, I promise! I'm drinking my usual AM smoothie right now. Where did you get your grains from, are they dried, frozen, or packed in a liquid? I've been looking into ways to ship some of mine, apparently just sticking them in a ziplock baggies with a bit of milk, squeezing out the air, wrapping in paper, then mailing in a plain old envelope is a common way to do it.
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement, kefir, turmeric
 
 
 


killcolitis
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   Posted 5/27/2010 8:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Eva Lou,
Thanks for the information. Do you feel like it helps at all with your UC? Either way, it's healthy I guess. Where did you get the grains?
s

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   Posted 5/27/2010 8:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm not really sure if it helps- it doesn't hurt, I know that! It makes a good breakfast, plus I find I can digest fruit better when it's all blended up. I think it does help a bit, but am never sure if I can attribute any benefits to meds or supplements- I mean, I still take a pretty decent amount of medications! Since I started drinking it regularly, my UC has improved on a day-to-day basis. But, I also started taking turmeric right around the same time, started Humira around the same time, etc, etc...... I'm erring on the side of caution & sticking with it- I like it, it's homemade, & it's good for me. I got my grains from a co-worker- she got them off freecycle.org, apparently.
diagnosed with UC '02
meds-
Asacol- 8 tabs/day
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira- started 1/10
Imuran- 150mgs/day
various probiotics & fiber supplement, kefir, turmeric
 
 
 


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   Posted 5/27/2010 8:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Just to tack onto this thread- here is a link from an old SCD site that explains how to make homemade yogurt.  The one part of the instructions below that I don't agree with is to stir up the resulting yogurt after it's finished, because I prefer it firmer anyway and if you stir it up and let it sit, then it will "weep" out whey in water, further liquifying it.   So I recommend you let it sit in the fridge for 24 hours after it's done to ensure it sets nice and firm.
 
 
Note that yogurt isn't for everyone- so one should use some trial and error.  Though I could die for the taste, which I loved, I personally don't make it anymore because I seem to have trouble tolerating any sort of dairy now, other than some butter.  It may be a reaction far beyond lactose- i..e I may be galactose intolerant now.
 
Though I don't make Kefir anymore, a fantastic kefir site with everything you would ever want to know and more is Dom's kefir site.  The hard core kefir makers are always happy to share their excess kefir "grains" (not really grains, mind you, just a term) and I suspect there are some links to forums where you could get in touch with them.
 
 
 


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Post Edited (Probiotic) : 5/27/2010 8:38:40 AM (GMT-6)


SMfromCA
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   Posted 5/27/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Eva Lou. I bought the grains from eBay. Spent about $7. It came in a double ziplock bag wrapped in a bubble wrap and an aluminium foil in an envelop. I checked the kefir in the morning before I left for work. Looks like it is setting up pretty well. The milk is getting thicker and the grains seem to form larger lumps. And there is a bit of a sour smell. I will let it set thru the afternoon and check it out in the evening. Thank you for all your tips. I really appreciate the guidance.
Male 42
UC diagnosed in summer 2004
Currently on Asacol 3 X 4
Also Fish oil, flax seed powder, psyllium husks and powder, benefiber, pro-biotic tablets...

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