Soy Milk or Lactaid?

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rpgdancer
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   Posted 9/21/2010 9:39 PM (GMT -6)   
have any of your GIs given any recommendations as to whether Soy milk or Lactaid milk is better for you????

C_G_K
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   Posted 9/21/2010 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I remember reading stuff like this about soy from multiple sources, and it turned me off it. I use lactaid now if I must eat/drink dairy.

www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/soy.htm#1

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subdued
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   Posted 9/21/2010 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
GIs are not commonly trained in diet and nutrition.

Zippy123
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   Posted 9/21/2010 11:42 PM (GMT -6)   
personally I would pick lactaid over soy. If you go with either one watch for carragenan additive and go with organic. carragenan has been shown to cause colitis in lab animals.

songlady
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   Posted 9/22/2010 6:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I've heard that soy is harder to digest, so I'd go with the lactaid.
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Sweetie31105
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   Posted 9/22/2010 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
When I was in the hospital, they gave me lactaid to drink... I go either way, but I mostly lean towards Lactaid though. Also, both kinds have their own ice cream, I've compared them and the Lactaid tastes exactly like Ice cream. I think it tastes better than ice cream.
28 year old, Married, Female. Moved from Sacramento, California to Arizona July 5th, 2010
Diagnosed with UC since March 2007

Humira since of May 2007 (Currently in remission since May 2007 with minor yearly flares)
Prescribed Imuran from May 2007 to Jan. 15, 2009
*Can't take Asacol, Allergic to Remicade, odd reactions to Canasa went backwards a bit.

Flares:
*May '08- July '08 *Mid June '09 - Aug. 21, 2009 *March 16th, 2010 - Beginning of Aug. 2010

Post Edited (Sweetie31105) : 9/22/2010 11:51:46 AM (GMT-6)


i_love_coffee
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   Posted 9/22/2010 8:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I am lactose intolerant and my gi reccomended lactaid.  But her attitude towards dietary issues is "if it bothers you dont eat it", she doesnt delve into the nuances like we do here!~

Diagnosed with UC in 1991
Only 3 flares (1991, 2001 and 2005)that resolved in a few months until Sept 2008
I have been flaring off and on(pretty much on)since Sept 2008- went on prednisone(for the first time) in Jan 2010 for a few months, but then flared again a few weeks after stopping the pred.
 
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What helped me (besided lialda and Rowasa)
gave up coffee, black tea and dairy (noticed a huge difference when I did this)
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basa0806
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   Posted 9/22/2010 9:04 AM (GMT -6)   
I find that soy is harder for me to digest. I also have a small allergic reaction to it sometimes. I've used lactaid forever. I love it!

UCcurlygirl
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   Posted 9/22/2010 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I"ve never tried Lactaid, but Rice milk and organic soy milk both work fine for me. I don't have it very often, but every once in a while I like a bowl of cereal with milk on it.

janey47
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   Posted 9/22/2010 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I prefer to limit my soy intake b/c I had breast cancer last year and I have other ways that I prefer to use my soy allotment.

But have you tried almond milk? It's surprisingly delicious, and almonds apparently are prebiotics (not a typo -- you probably already know the difference between prebiotics and probiotics, but prebiotics are non-digestible food substances that act as food for “good” bacteria in the GI tract while probiotics are friendly bacteria that feed on fiber, fat, and other nutrients).

Almond milk nutrient info per serving --

Calories 59
Fat 0 g
Sat Fat 0 g
Mono Fat 0 g
Poly Fat 0 g
Protein 4 g
Carb 6 g
Fiber 0 g
Fiber 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg
Sodium 2 mg
Calcium 46 mg
Magnesium 50 mg
Potassium 129 mg
Vitamin E 3 mg

Peace&Harmony
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   Posted 9/22/2010 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I was told that it's very common to be latose intolerant. I tried both soy milk and lactaid.  I like the lactaid better.  It mixed better when making cooked oatmeal.  I use milk instead of water. Soy milk doesn't seem to mix well.
 
Anyway I tried the lactose free diaet for a week then tried some dairy and had abosultly no problems...so now I'm back to my regular fat free milk.  No need to switch if you're not lactose intolerant!
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MmeMulot
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   Posted 9/22/2010 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I am slightly lactose intolerant and beyond that don't really care for drinking milk by itself or on cereal. I've tried all the milk "substitutes," and almond milk is my favorite. I really like the new refrigerated kind, especially the unsweetened vanilla.
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teachtoreach
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   Posted 9/22/2010 11:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I am severely lactose intolerant...a mere taste of dairy will hit me within five minutes. I use to eat it and know there would be consequences, but as I am in a severe flare, I am content to never eat it again. That being said, I have tried soy milk and just didn't like the taste. I also recently bought several soy yogurts believing I could finally eat yogurt again, but then I read the fine print where it said it had actual dairy in it.

I haven't tried Lactaid yet, but I will now based on the above reviews. I have a question though about Lactaid. Can you cook with it? Will it stand up in say a soup or pasta recipe that calls for milk or cream?

basa0806
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   Posted 9/22/2010 11:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I've used lactaid for baking and for mac and cheese...basically because that's all I can cook! It holds up fine. It is normal milk, it just has the added lactase enzyme our guts don't have enough of.
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teachtoreach
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   Posted 9/22/2010 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Sam for the input about cooking with Lactaid. I wanted to try it tonight in a recipe for Pasta with Sausage, Tomatoes and Cream, but as I was cooking for my young nephews (who aren't Lactose intolerant), I was worried either it might separate when cooked or it would taste off. I definitely will start experimenting cooking with Lactaid!

Sweetie31105
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   Posted 9/23/2010 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Cooking with Lactaid is just like cooking with regular milk. I use it all the time as a substitute and nobody know the difference.
28 year old, Married, Female. Moved from Sacramento, California to Arizona July 5th, 2010
Diagnosed with UC since March 2007

Humira since of May 2007 (Currently in remission since May 2007 with minor yearly flares)
Prescribed Imuran from May 2007 to Jan. 15, 2009
*Can't take Asacol, Allergic to Remicade, odd reactions to Canasa went backwards a bit.

Flares:
*May '08- July '08 *Mid June '09 - Aug. 21, 2009 *March 16th, 2010 - Beginning of Aug. 2010

Ugh Just Ugh
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   Posted 9/23/2010 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
My GI doesn't really talk to me about diet but I personally have the best luck with Rice Milk. :o)
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Originally Diagnosed: 7/08 Mild left sided UC
Current Flare started: 12/09 involving whole colon.
Current Meds: Prednisone (5mg, tapering), Remicade (Infusion 3: 8/19/10), Imuran (50mg), Lexapro (10mg), lunesta (3mg).
Past Meds: Mesalamine Enemas, Canasa, Hydrocortisone Enema & Supp. Oral Mesalamine Intolerant.

mumbles
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   Posted 9/26/2010 2:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't overlook other milks like almond and rice milk. I drink soymilk as soy doesn't bother me. Just make sure with soy, almond, and rice that it doesn't have carrageenan in it which can cause ulcerations of the GI tract. Subdued is right GIs usually do not know much if anything about diet and nutrition.
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rayyray
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   Posted 1/25/2013 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Lactaid all the way, It tastes just like milk (because it is haha) and cooks just like milk and is just perfect. I think soy milk is too sweet, especially the vanilla. I dont want flavored milk, i just want milk! so Lactaid has done wonders for me
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Guardian7
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   Posted 1/25/2013 2:25 PM (GMT -6)   
subdued said...
GIs are not commonly trained in diet and nutrition.


Ditto. Just go with whatever suits you. Everyone is different. Personally, I'd avoid lactaid because of the carrageenan.

therearemiracles
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   Posted 1/25/2013 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I think almond milk is easier on the digestive system

ItsAlwaysSomething
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   Posted 1/25/2013 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I like almond or coconut milk.
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deltaforce
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   Posted 1/26/2013 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I use Trader Joe's Almond milk.

I started soy but a friend of mine raised a lot of questions. I came across a book http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Soy-Story-Americas-Favorite/dp/0967089751 and the author supports majority of the arguments with scientific evidence. Even if you ignore exaggeration at a times, still Soy is scary stuff, if not processed in traditional way.
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journey2health
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   Posted 1/26/2013 7:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I have severe reaction to soy (itching, hives) Drink almond milk, I suggest.
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stereofidelic89
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   Posted 1/26/2013 7:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I use almond milk, or lactose free milk. Goat milk too.

I would be skeptical of the source of soy used in soy milk products, lots of research noting its link to thyroid disorders, and especially not good for men.
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