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journey2health
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   Posted 1/17/2011 3:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not showing any D or Blood. Should I be worried about mucous and some gas? It's not much mucous and the gas is more than usual. I'm currently doing nightly enemas.

I haven't paid much attention to mucous. And was wondering if it's a problem if there isn't blood or D.

Red_34
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   Posted 1/17/2011 8:58 AM (GMT -6)   
It could just be from something you ate. Mucous is normal even in healthy people. Excessive mucous, without the signs of a pending flare, can mean that you ate something your colon doesn't like. However, keep an eye on your body because increased mucous and gas production in Uc'ers can be a sign of inflammation. So it's one of those things that can or doesn't mean something but it pays to be observant.
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quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2011 11:37 AM (GMT -6)   
And it could be IBS....but good it's not bleeding.

You also just started psyllium.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

journey2health
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   Posted 1/17/2011 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
What would psyllium have to do with mucous?
In delicate remission--pancolitis. 8 Asacol, Rowesa every other day- with symptoms daily - add Canasa sometimes, Psyllium husk, Align probiotic. Vitamins. Avoid greasy, fried, spicy, citrus, dairy (except yogurt), red meat, caffeine, alcohol. Bipolar/anxiety/depression: lamictal, Lexapro; Sleep-zinc magnesium B6--Zyprexa, klonopin if sleep regime fails.

quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2011 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
gas.... and maybe giving your colon a bit more exercise than "spasming"...therefore, your colon might be reacting by creating more mucous.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

journey2health
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   Posted 1/17/2011 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
And this is OK? Or not a bad thing?
In delicate remission--pancolitis. 8 Asacol, Rowesa every other day- with symptoms daily - add Canasa sometimes, Psyllium husk, Align probiotic. Vitamins. Avoid greasy, fried, spicy, citrus, dairy (except yogurt), red meat, caffeine, alcohol. Bipolar/anxiety/depression: lamictal, Lexapro; Sleep-zinc magnesium B6--Zyprexa, klonopin if sleep regime fails.

quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2011 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, at least it's producing mucous...You just have to figure out if it's flare related or IBS...

and I, of course it wouldn't be me if i didn't, would caution you to not taper any time soon (enemas, that is).

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

DennyRae
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   Posted 1/17/2011 10:17 PM (GMT -6)   
about MUCUS,.... Only here in the UC forum can we freely discuss this unpleasant symptom with interested listeners!

Mucus was the initial reason for avoiding and eventually getting diagnosed in 2006. Since then I've lived with persistent (refractory) proctitis. Continuous presence of mucus is my primary symptom between & linking frequent symptom flare-up; urgency, frequency, bleeding, volumes of mucus & gas, abdominal aches & bloating, feverishness and complete exhaustion.

In addition to the mucus and frequent bleeding at the beginning and end of poops, I also pass mucus daily when sitting to pee, pass "wet" gas, and sometimes it leaks out on it's own. The mucus is always changing with wide variety of color, volume, consistency, absence or presence of blood & stool.

Here are some things I know about mucus production in UC. Mucus membranes line the gut from mouth to rectum, as is the respiratory tract, e.g., sinuses, nasopharanx, bronchial tubes, etc. Mucus is produced in response to inflammation. Soft tissue inflammation (red, hot & swollen) in general is the body's attempt to 'wall off' and contain infection & foreign invaders. Patches of inflammation in the colon become ulcerated - hence the name ulcerative colitis, and produce mucus and bleeding.

In the auto-immune dysfunction of UC, the cells lining the bowel (the body's enormous treasure bank of immune cell warriors) are triggered into thinking the bowel wall itself is an infection/foreign body to fight off. The worse the auto-immune attack - the worse the inflammation, and worse the signs & symptoms including; mucus, bleeding, and colon spasm/evacuation or paralysis/stool backup, in any combination and sequence you can imagine.

So, some mucus means there is still some inflammation. And while it may be the beginning or tail end of a flare-up, chronic inflammation, whether low-grade and tolerable, or severe and disabling, produces risk for complications. Long-term (10 years) bowel inflammation increases the risk for colon cancer. Disease progression also leads to surgical removal of the colon (is the only cure for UC), for 1 in every 3 persons with UC.

May I suggest that you get a copies of your sig/colonoscopy images. It helps to visualize what is going on inside the bowel and understand symptoms. Also do you have a copy of Dr Fred Saibil's book: "Chrone's Disease & Ulcerative Colitis, Everything You Need To Know". There is a recent updated edition. I found my copy at Powells gianormous bookstore in Portland, Oregon. They also have a huge online bookstore for new and used books. I've read it front to back many times over as I refer back to one or more chapters seeking validation of my assumptions and self-management strategy.

Incidentally, it was in Dr Saibil's book that I realized my post-steroid bone pain, fatigue and migraines were likely due to adrenal insufficiency. I took the book with me to see my PCP. While waiting in the exam room, he called the Endocrinologist, who agreed with my assessment - based on Dr Saibil's chapter on medications. It took another two years and three attempts to taper off prednisone/hydrocortisone to resolve the adrenal insufficiency & produce my own normal levels of cortisol.

Also, you might benefit from keeping a medical journal - just a notebook. I take it to appointments with questions & current symptoms, and note the advice/instructions given, lab results, etc. It has helped me communicate accurately about symptoms, medications, etc. I can no longer provide a succinct history AND current status - it's too much information. Living with UC has been a 'merry' go-round with changes from month to month and year to year. So I write in it, like a journal, updating how I am doing, what I'm taking, and whether it helps or not; and what is going on with my other ailments and mental health. Can you tell I'm also living with OCD?

Hope this is helpful. Yeah for mucus talk - it helps me to tell someone.
Ciao - Denny Rae
50 yo Female, in Eugene, Oregon, USA

Refractory (persistent) UC/Proctitis, Mild at diagnosis 2006; Moderate at last scope.
Other GI Dx: IBS, GERD, Binge Eater hx/of Bulemia, Hyperlipidemia, Overweight (BMI @ 27).
Also: FMS/CFS, Anxiety & Depression, OCD
GI Meds: Methotrexate, Canasa, Omeprazole, Probiotic, Statin,TUMs, Miralax, Inulin Fiber. Multi-Vit, Vit C, Calcium w/D, Magnesium, Docusate.

quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2011 10:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Remember that UC inflammation can get to the point where the mucosal layer is so damaged that it doesn't produce any mucus....not a good thing.

Mucus can be produced from irritation or excessive actity, perceived or real.
So, mucus colitis...aka IBS...has no inflammation.

Thanks for the info...the pic suggestion is a good one.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

journey2health
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   Posted 1/17/2011 11:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I think I may have had too much psyllium without enough water. I don't know if that has an effect on too much mucus and gas

Constant inflammation is worrisome too me. Cancer, etc..., just plain illness even though I have no debilitating bleeding or diarrhea.

Sometimes I feel like chucking the enemas and just going on 6mp to get into permanent remission.

I've seen the rectal images. It's reddish, slight granularity, doc referred to it as mild inflammation.m

Do you think I OD'd on the psyllium?
In delicate remission--pancolitis. 8 Asacol, Rowesa every other day- with symptoms daily - add Canasa sometimes, Psyllium husk, Align probiotic. turmeric, Vitamins. Avoid greasy, fried, spicy, citrus, dairy (except yogurt), red meat, caffeine, alcohol. Bipolar/anxiety/depression: lamictal, Lexapro; Sleep-zinc magnesium B6--Zyprexa, klonopin if sleep regime fails.

quincy
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   Posted 1/17/2011 11:55 PM (GMT -6)   
how much did you use? how often and when? That could cause lots of gas and discomfort. When I first started using the capsules...one gave me some discomfort and gas...but that only lasted a few days of consistent use, then all was good. That's when I added another.

How many times a day are you going?

6MP is no guarantee to go into remission...but worth a try if that's the direction you want to go. The enemas can be used with if needed.

Constant inflammation and worry about cancer...yes...understandable. But, we have c-scopes regularly. and look-see's as needed, etc.
We need to keep things in perspective of what our butts are doing. Eventually it makes sense.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

journey2health
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   Posted 1/18/2011 1:22 AM (GMT -6)   
It's probably the psyllium that's creating problems although I've been known to blame things other than what the truth is -- flaring.


I'm going too often for just a little while because nothing but mucus and gas comes out. The timing is associated with the psyllium drink. Then there will be a period of time when nothing usually when I haven't been eating anything. When I do have a bowel movement, I can tell by the look of it that the psyllium is making the transit more rapid, which is good. It's a good solid bm, though not the biggest diameter on the stool. I would say I'm having on.e of those a day

Thanks for your concern!
In delicate remission--pancolitis. 8 Asacol, Rowesa every other day- with symptoms daily - add Canasa sometimes, Psyllium husk, Align probiotic. turmeric, Vitamins. Avoid greasy, fried, spicy, citrus, dairy (except yogurt), red meat, caffeine, alcohol. Bipolar/anxiety/depression: lamictal, Lexapro; Sleep-zinc magnesium B6--Zyprexa, klonopin if sleep regime fails.

songlady
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   Posted 1/18/2011 9:20 AM (GMT -6)   
For me, if nothing but mucus and gas comes out, I figure there's some low inflammation going on and I hit the Canasa, try to head off a "real" flare.....

And, as you noted, it is so important to drink plenty of water with the psyllium!

Hang in there!
Co-Moderator, UC Forum
Age 54. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Asacol - 16 pills/day,
alternating steroid/Rowasa enemas, Canasa occasionally
Metamucil - 2 doses/day
VSL#3DS 3 x daily, Multivitamin, Calcium and D
homemade yogurt each day
trying Slippery Elm again
starting to flare......
Son, 17, dx pancolitis 2007, in remission

quincy
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   Posted 1/18/2011 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
psyllium drink? which one exactly?
 list the ingredients please...thnx
q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Symbicort/Airomir (asthma)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4000 IU
~URSO for PSC (or PBC) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

journey2health
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   Posted 1/18/2011 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Quincy, psyllium plus water plus chug a lug.
 
So gas and mucous is a sign of low inflammation, Songlady, for which Canasa is better suited? Does Rowasa skip over the lower part?
 
Might this still be from the psyllium itself?
 
Today doing better.

songlady
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   Posted 1/18/2011 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Maybe indeed it's just the psyllium!

I would think that "maybe" the Rowasa could skip the very bottom...kinda depends on exactly how far the thing is stuck in when you squeeze the medicine out.
I try to do the last little squirt of enema as I remove the bottle (just before the bottle is totally out, so I don't make a mess....) in the hope that some coats the bottom.

If you're doing better today, I'd figure it was the psyllium or some kind of food-response blip. As has been pointed out, the healthy GI tract does create mucus.... we just worry when we see too much of it!
Glad today was better. It was for me, too - let's celebrate! :-) (cautiously, of course....)
Co-Moderator, UC Forum
Age 54. Diagnosed UP 1983, UC 1986
Asacol - 16 pills/day,
steroid enemas, Canasa occasionally
Metamucil - 2 doses/day
VSL#3DS 3 x daily, Multivitamin, Calcium and D
homemade yogurt each day
trying Slippery Elm again
fending off a flare......
Son, 17, dx pancolitis 2007, in remission
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