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IamCurious
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   Posted 8/11/2011 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
From Yori on the Crohn's forum. This is about GMOs possibly causing IBD:
wakeup-world.com/2011/08/11/dangerous-toxins-from-genetically-modified-plants-found-in-women-fetuses/

Thank you so much for sharing. No wonder there are so many triggering foods. I try to eat organically even though it is much more expensive. My favorite snack is air popped organic popcorn where I can add my own coconut oil and sea salt, but there is no way to completely avoid GMOs
Male/59 DX ulcerative colitis Feb08, possible Crohn's colitis DX Mar10.
No Meds, allergic to Mesalamine. Remission since Mar10. Psyllium seed mixed with VSL3 especially helpful. Food journal instead of SCD.

Watch gluten, lots of fruit & vegetables (but no plums or kale), no soda, no HFCS, no trans fat, tea instead of coffee, no shellfish, few processed foods, no carrageenan.
Probiotics, multivitamin, extra D3, K2, high gamma E, fish oil, glutamine, magnesium, phos choline, resveratrol, S. Boulardii, boswellia, curcumin.
Nature created all of the locks, therefore Nature has all of the keys

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 8/11/2011 8:15:31 PM (GMT-6)


notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 8/11/2011 7:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for sharing. Truly terrible what is happening in commercial farming. I have been very careful lately about buying from small farms and organic but it's very expensive and sometimes makes it impossible to eat out. I also only eat humanely raised meats, that gets expensive as well - it's lucky I don't have a family to feed.
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agt13girl
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   Posted 8/11/2011 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Corn used to be one of my favorite foods- could that be the reason I have the UC, I wonder, I wonder? Or did I read the article wrong? (I didn't read it word for word, I skimmed over it. It's almost my bedtime and I'm too tired to read it all tonight.)
23 years old
Diagnosed with Pan Colitis ~ December 2009, Still flaring
Tried Asacol, didn't work and ended up in the hospital, February '10
Currently on Apriso, .375gm 4/day
As of 8-9-11, on Lialda, 2/day in the morning. Let's hope it works better than the first two!
Was on Pred, end of Feb. '10- end of May '10
Starting Rowasa Enemas, again, June '11
Started the SCD, July '10

Chris'sColon
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   Posted 8/12/2011 7:51 AM (GMT -6)   
watch the documentary "king of corn" they use bacterias to deliver the genetic mutations that make the corn more resillient and pretty. they also feed not "human food grade" corn to the livestock we eat, so we're eating it anyway. they also found that the pigs who ate this corn developed ulcers in their intestines... hmmm. then they feed these sick UC pigs to the public... hmmm... they also discovered in the mid 90's (and all the time actually) that this same non-human food grade corn made it into the products we were eating. wonder who got rich off of that "accident?"
 
 so maybe i ate some bad geneticially mutated/mutating, bacteria rich, intestinal ulcer causing pork tacos when i was a teenager that altered my genetic makeup and i passed it on to my child... well that sucks.
 wonder if this is the reason he likes corn products so much.
 
what else sucks is that if the Organic foods you are growing and buying and eating are not grown from heirloom seeds, then they are grown from the same genetically mutated seeds that the industrial farms use.
 
wow, i sound like a conspiracy theorist.
Veronica, mom of chris age 5
symptoms started shortly after birth
dx at age 2 with moderate colitis
scoped again at age 5 upgraded to severe pancolitis
flared almost constantly with only temporary remission from steroids
total colectomy and ileo-anal anastomosis November 2010

IamCurious
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   Posted 8/12/2011 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
wow, i sound like a conspiracy theorist

Actually you sound like a mother grizzly who will do whatever is necessary to protect your son.

Chris'sColon
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   Posted 8/12/2011 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
GGRRRRR! :)
Veronica, mom of chris age 5
symptoms started shortly after birth
dx at age 2 with moderate colitis
scoped again at age 5 upgraded to severe pancolitis
flared almost constantly with only temporary remission from steroids
total colectomy and ileo-anal anastomosis November 2010

suebear
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   Posted 8/12/2011 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Eating corn did not give you UC!

Sue

Chris'sColon
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   Posted 8/12/2011 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't have UC. my point was that we don't know what we are eating or how it affects us, which makes the saying "you are what you eat" a pretty scary prospect. none of the food groups are safe anymore.
my cousin feeds her daughter all organic and presumably hormone free foods. yet her 7 year old is growing breasts. she is not overweight. is this the new human evolution?

again, i'm sounding like a conspiracy theorist. :)
Veronica, mom of chris age 5
symptoms started shortly after birth
dx at age 2 with moderate colitis
scoped again at age 5 upgraded to severe pancolitis
flared almost constantly with only temporary remission from steroids
total colectomy and ileo-anal anastomosis November 2010

Chris'sColon
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   Posted 8/12/2011 9:59 AM (GMT -6)   
oh, sue was refering to agt13girl's comment. oops. i wish we did know what gives people UC.
Veronica, mom of chris age 5
symptoms started shortly after birth
dx at age 2 with moderate colitis
scoped again at age 5 upgraded to severe pancolitis
flared almost constantly with only temporary remission from steroids
total colectomy and ileo-anal anastomosis November 2010

Eva Lou
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   Posted 8/12/2011 10:28 AM (GMT -6)   
I've found this website to be particularly interesting & helpful, when one is trying to sort out the "organic vs. non-organic" dilemma. It's www.cornucopia.org     The chart of what organic means is so insightful. Re. GMO's, they're nearly unavoidable. But, so are other types of potential body pollutants we may know nothing about yet. I don't know, you just do what you can do. I'm lucky (I suppose!) in that I don't believe any certain foods or chemicals causes UC. So while I do eat locally raised meats, & have been dealing with garden produce for far too long now, I made those choices for ethical reasons, not necessarily health reasons.

diagnosed 2002
Asacol
Remicade-10mgs/kg- from 4/07 thru 1/10
Humira
Imuran- 150mgs/day
homemade kefir, probiotic supplement, turmeric

quincy
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   Posted 8/12/2011 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I can definitley see toxins causing stuff to happen in our bodies and modified foods our bodies cannot use properly, especially if it's overwhelmed (in dealing with just the normal immune-response things) and skewed totally from extreme adjustments that should happen more slowly through normal evolutionary changes. (bad sentence structure)

Add all that, extreme distress of daily living "today" and normal genetics, we're screwed.

It costs a LOT to feed the continually expanding world population. Eventually we'll be eating pellets like our pets.

Or...soylent green..ugh...which in a parallel way has already happened in the animal food chain.
 
we will NEVER pinpoint the reason for most diseases unless they're ONLY genetic.
q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO for PBC(or PSC?) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

CollegeStudent
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   Posted 8/12/2011 9:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Beans, corns, rice, peas, etc. unless it says non-GMO on the label, we won't know for sure.

Interestingly, GMO products have been banned in Europe for more than five years now. Unluckily for us, it's still out there in the market.
21 male
-Pancolitis 2008 Jan. then Crohn's colitis later
-LDN 6/7/11
-Humira 6/14/11
-80min+ cardio daily
-Pentasa 1.5g, No response to steroids anymore
-No HFSC, sugar, chicken(bloating), shrimps, frying
-White/brown rice/rice pasta/potatoes+red meat/fish +avocado+peach+homemade yogurt+tomatoes+OJ+Olive Oil+cooked sesame seed+Perilla Oil+Only Evian Water+ Walnuts
-BACK TO WEIGHT TRAINING ;]

badslinke
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   Posted 8/13/2011 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Christ almighty that article is scary.
UC DXed July 2006, after living in Mexico and a month of extreme stress in June 2006. Food poisoning several months before while in MX. Severe case. Have tried a page long list of medicines, diets and supplements, including LDN.
Current daily regimen that is working well:
4 x VSL3 DS, 1-2tbsp psyllium seed powder, 16g l-glutamine, gluten/sugar free, limited dairy, 1/2 cup black beans (butyrate).

imagardener2
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   Posted 8/13/2011 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Ulcerative colitis, known by many other names (leaky gut, etc), has been around for thousands of years so it can't all be about GMO's. I am an organic gardener and buy the least modified food possible and am careful about cleaning solutions (which can slip through your skin into your bloodstream) but I just don't think my UC came from GMO's although they could have contributed in sneaky ways.

I hope humankind doesn't put itself out of existence through stupidity and greed but things don't look good sometimes.
In remission April 2010 after 10 years of UC with no remission ever
Jan 2010 began SpecCarbDiet (modified to remove dairy, fruit & juices,)
Gluten-free=bleeding stopped in 3 days, 95% remission in 5.5 months on SCD
SCDiet: Gluten/grain-free, starch-free, low carb, honey as sweetener
(9)Balsalazide+(6)Citrucel, mesalamine enema as needed
Spinach & sunflower seeds daily, (1) VSL#3 nightly

IamCurious
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   Posted 8/13/2011 5:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Beans, corns, rice, peas, etc. unless it says non-GMO on the label, we won't know for sure

The food lobbyists have already made sure that we won't know for sure.

www.safe-food.org/
There are about 40 varieties of genetically engineered crop approved for marketing in the U.S. As a result, 60-70% of the foods on your grocery shelves contain genetically engineered (GE) components.

Genetically engineered foods contain substances that have never been a part of the human food supply. They are not subjected to rigorous pre-market safety testing. And THEY ARE NOT LABELED.

quincy
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   Posted 8/13/2011 6:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never heard UC being called leaky gut...ever.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO for PBC(or PSC?) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

IamCurious
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   Posted 8/13/2011 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never heard UC being called leaky gut...ever

According to Wikipedia Leaky Gut is associated with IBD. I have heard one theory that it explains the extraintestinal lesions (EIL) associated with Crohn's and UC. Food and bacteria from the digestive system leaks into the circulatory system and gets transported everywhere causing eye inflammation, liver problems, arthritis in the joints, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_gut
Leaky gut is a name used to describe intestinal or bowel hyperpermeability. Tight junctions (TJs) represent the major barrier within the pathway between intestinal epithelial cells that line the digestion tract. Disruption of TJs leads to intestinal hyperpermeability (the so-called "leaky gut") which has been proposed by some researchers to involve a relationship with acute and chronic diseases such as systemic inflammatory response syndrome (SIRS), inflammatory bowel disease, type 1 diabetes, allergies, asthma, and autism

According to this same link, glutamine and berberine can help:
Researchers propose intake of natural anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidative substances (NAIDS's), such as glutamine, N-acetyl cysteine and zinc, in conjunction with a leaky gut diet, prebiotics and the use of probiotics.[7][12][13] Berberine is a traditional herbal medicine, which has been used for patients with gastrointestinal disorders for a long time. According to a new report, berberine can ameliorate pro-inflammatory cytokines induced intestinal epithelia tight junction damage in vitro, and berberine may be one of the targeted therapeutic agents that can restore barrier function in intestinal disease states.[14]

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 8/15/2011 4:11:37 AM (GMT-6)


quincy
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   Posted 8/14/2011 3:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Good link.
 
Yes, I do know what leaky gut is, and relationship or precursor...maybe. But UC isn't and has never been called leaky gut. even though one can have leaky gut with UC.

It's not an interchangeable name.
 
That's like saying emphysema is asthma or vice versa.  Asthma attacks can be in an emphysemic state, but it's not emphysema.
 
q
 
 
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 6 twice daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO for PBC(or PSC?) 500mg X 2 daily (LFTs back to NORMAL!!)
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

Post Edited (quincy) : 8/14/2011 2:35:26 AM (GMT-6)


imagardener2
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   Posted 8/14/2011 7:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Quincy

My actual point was that I believe UC and IBD have been around, called by various names, for thousands of years. As technology advances scientists are able to describe different manifestations of IBD, dividing it into different categories, but they all still remain diseases/abnormalities of the gut. Long before GMO foods in other words.

To paraphrase Shakespeare "UC by any other name would still be as crappy".


BITW

Thanks for the info. My PCP used the term "leaky gut" to me in discussion when we were talking about the history of IBD but I never did any research into it.
In remission April 2010 after 10 years of UC with no remission ever
Jan 2010 began SpecCarbDiet (modified to remove dairy, fruit & juices,)
Gluten-free=bleeding stopped in 3 days, 95% remission in 5.5 months on SCD
SCDiet: Gluten/grain-free, starch-free, low carb, honey as sweetener
(9)Balsalazide+(6)Citrucel, mesalamine enema as needed
Spinach & sunflower seeds daily, (1) VSL#3 nightly

InSoFla
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   Posted 8/14/2011 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
 
Thanks for the info, and yes I was aware of the Leaky Gut connection to IBD - which also causes major problems with nutritional malabsorption.
That's why IMO, the multi-pronged approach is so important. In my view, doctors really don't know all that much except to throw drugs at you - and they ony bandaid the problem, without getting to real solutions, real fixes, actual sources of problems.

Dx with UC in Sept. 2010.Tried various Mesalamine enemas/suppos/pills with Prednisone for several rounds without any help.Diet consists of mostly only protein: protein shakes w/almond milk, Liquid Minerals& Vitamins,Maca powder,L-Glutamine 15g, D-Ribose 5g, chia seeds,5-Loxin.VSL#3,K2,VIt. D3 100,000 IU every 10 days.Canasa suppos. as maintenance. But Transdermal LDN is working!!

InSoFla
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   Posted 8/14/2011 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
BabeintheWoods and Badslinke,
 
Thanks for posting this.
Wow, holy s%^&!
 
Could that be the route to the MAP adn other bacteria's  proliferation?

Dx with UC in Sept. 2010.Tried various Mesalamine enemas/suppos/pills with Prednisone for several rounds without any help.Diet consists of mostly only protein: protein shakes w/almond milk, Liquid Minerals& Vitamins,Maca powder,L-Glutamine 15g, D-Ribose 5g, chia seeds,5-Loxin.VSL#3,K2,VIt. D3 100,000 IU every 10 days.Canasa suppos. as maintenance. But Transdermal LDN is working!!

AZYooper
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   Posted 8/14/2011 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I remember when GMP first starting coming on the market and agriculture starting pushing back by claiming that it was just like hybrids and no big deal. Then I talked to a farmer I know. He told me they were modifying crops so that the produced their own pesticides and to become resistant to herbicides like roundup. That can't be done with hybrids. It is scary too.

All chemicals have negative effects to go along with the positives. I can't see how enabling heavier use of pesticides on food crops or munching on food with it's own pesticides inside can be good for us.

Antibiotic use in meat production is another disaster waiting to happen.

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   Posted 8/14/2011 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
The industry fighting against labeling GMOs and BGH in milk is just plain wrong.
Diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis as my 50th birthday present Dec 2009
4.8 grams Asacol HD plus 1000mg canasa daily for 8 weeks. Went to 1.6 gr Asacol for 8 months. Tried sulfasalzine for a month got adverse reactions

On 3 g/day generic Colazal now,fish oil, homemade yogurt(VSL#3), pscillium husk,glucosamine sulfate,curcumin,ginger,milk thistle, boswellia.

InSoFla
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   Posted 8/14/2011 5:23 PM (GMT -6)   
 
The industry fighting against labeling GMOs and BGH in milk is just plain wrong.
 
Yes, just like the drug pushers at the big pharmas pushing the FDA to approve drug trials which are approved by their board members sitting on the FDA... same greed and corruption, except it's seen as ok and actually reliable.

Dx with UC in Sept. 2010.Tried various Mesalamine enemas/suppos/pills with Prednisone for several rounds without any help.Diet consists of mostly only protein: protein shakes w/almond milk, Liquid Minerals& Vitamins,Maca powder,L-Glutamine 15g, D-Ribose 5g, chia seeds,5-Loxin.VSL#3,K2,VIt. D3 100,000 IU every 10 days.Canasa suppos. as maintenance. But Transdermal LDN is working!!
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