Germinated Barley Foodstuff - GBF (a prebiotic)

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Eph
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   Posted 12/6/2011 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
In today's Crohn's & Colitis Foundation "Managing IBD" seminar, they listed the prebiotic "Germinated Barley Foodstuff (GBF)" as helping regulate symptoms, much as VSL#3 and other probiotics do for a lot of us.

I found a couple references on the web:

www.sproutnet.com/Nutrition/Research/germinated_barley_foodstuff_prol.htm

www.raysahelian.com/barley.html (look 3/4 of the way down the page for GBF).

The problem is, it doesn't seem to be readily available in this form on the internet.

Has anyone else heard about GBF? Does anyone know where to get it? A Q&A in that second link says it really isn't available...

Eph
Late 40s male
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1988
Balsalazide (generic Colazal), 3g/2x day.
2000IU Vit D3 daily.
Started LDN on 5/20/11 (4.5mg caps)
Started VSL#3DS (one sachet a day) on 6/28/11
Started Grapefruit Seed Extract 11/9/11
Currently symptom-free
Considering: Fecal transplant

wodin
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   Posted 12/6/2011 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
"Germinated Barley Foodstuff (GBF)" is a highbrow name for barley malt, used by brewers for millennia for brewing beer. It's readily available at any brewer’s supply store/site, and can be had from Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/Barley-Malt-Powder-1-lb/dp/B00015UC8O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323201007&sr=8-1

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Eph
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   Posted 12/6/2011 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I just found this link that confirms that GBF is malt barley:

www.nutritionalwellness.com/nutrition/herbs/g/germinated_barley.php
Late 40s male
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1988
Balsalazide (generic Colazal), 3g/2x day.
2000IU Vit D3 daily.
Started LDN on 5/20/11 (4.5mg caps)
Started VSL#3DS (one sachet a day) on 6/28/11
Started Grapefruit Seed Extract 11/9/11
Currently symptom-free
Considering: Fecal transplant

hateuc
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   Posted 12/6/2011 6:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Eph,
 
Thanks for posting about this and about the conference today.  For all of us who were unable to hear it, could you pls post the highlights that you found helpful.  That would be very much appreciated!!
 
Thanks,
B

hateuc
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   Posted 12/6/2011 6:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, I see you did tell about it on the other thread. I wish they would look into Fecal Transplant and I hope they "really" look into LDN. Sometimes seems like it just falls in a hole. Thanks for keeping us posted on this.
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aguywithuc
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   Posted 12/6/2011 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I have GBF on my top shelf unopened. I am doing really well and continuing to avoid BSN products seems to be resulting in a deeper more lasting remission.

If things turn ugly I will tryout the GBF, I cannot recall but I think its benefit is similar to Psyllium Seed - it boost butyrate in the large intestine.

Eph
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   Posted 12/7/2011 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I sent an email to one of the scientists/doctors involved in that study I linked to. His response re: GBF being the same as malt was:

Dear Sir

Thank you for your mail.
Unfortunately, "malt barley" is quite different from GBF.

I guess that clinical efficacy is not caused.

Sincerely yours.


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aguywithuc - where did you get your GBF?
Late 40s male
Diagnosed with ulcerative proctitis in 1988
Balsalazide (generic Colazal), 3g/2x day.
2000IU Vit D3 daily.
Started LDN on 5/20/11 (4.5mg caps)
Started VSL#3DS (one sachet a day) on 6/28/11
Started Grapefruit Seed Extract 11/9/11
Currently symptom-free
Considering: Fecal transplant

imagardener2
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   Posted 12/7/2011 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your research and posting the reply to your question.

Why couldn't we "sprout" barley seeds, grow the sprouts to 5" and then dry them to make GBF?
Sprouts are good for us anyway, although I wouldn't buy store sprouts due to contamination issues, prefer homemade myself.

This sounds like a good and healthy experiment.
I am currently soaking sunflower seeds just for fun since they are a daily diet item for me anyway.
In remission April 2010 after 10 years of UC with no remission ever
Jan 2010 began SpecCarbDiet (modified to remove dairy, fruit & juices,)
Gluten-free=bleeding stopped in 3 days, 95% remission in 5.5 months on SCD
SCDiet: Gluten/grain-free, low starch, low carb, honey as sweetener
(9)Balsalazide+(6)Citrucel, mesalamine enema as needed
(1) VSL#3 nightly-adding fruit back in small quantity 2011

IamCurious
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   Posted 12/7/2011 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Would sprouted barley still contain gluten?
Male/60 DX ulcerative colitis Feb08, Crohn's colitis DX Mar10.
No Meds, allergic to Mesalamine. Remission since Mar10. Psyllium seed mixed with VSL3 is very helpful. Food journal instead of SCD.

Watch gluten, lots of fruit & vegetables (but no plums or kale), no soda, no HFCS, no trans fat, no shellfish, few processed foods, no carrageenan.
Probiotics, fish oil, multivitamin, extra D3, K2, high gamma E, phos choline, glutamine, magnesium, boswellia, curcumin.
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imagardener2
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   Posted 12/7/2011 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm. Thanks for reminding about why I don't eat barley lol.
However I'm thinking of trying DIY experiment on myself sprouting barley after the holidays (enough falling off the wagon with that alone).
First I'm trying out sunflower seed soaking and perhaps sprouting that.
If no ill effects I'll move on to barley.

Here's a link discussing how possibly the bad stuff in barley might be broken down into amino acids and therefore be less of a problem.
www.celiac.com/articles/187/1/Celiac-Disease-and-Barley-Malt---by-Donald-D-Kasarda-Former-Research-Chemist-for-the-United-States-Department-of-Agriculture/Page1.html
In remission April 2010 after 10 years of UC with no remission ever
Jan 2010 began SpecCarbDiet (modified to remove dairy, fruit & juices,)
Gluten-free=bleeding stopped in 3 days, 95% remission in 5.5 months on SCD
SCDiet: Gluten/grain-free, low starch, low carb, honey as sweetener
(9)Balsalazide+(6)Citrucel, mesalamine enema as needed
(1) VSL#3 nightly-adding fruit back in small quantity 2011

IamCurious
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   Posted 12/7/2011 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, let us know how it turns out.

wodin
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   Posted 12/7/2011 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Eph said...
I sent an email to one of the scientists/doctors involved in that study I linked to. His response re: GBF being the same as malt was:

Dear Sir

Thank you for your mail.
Unfortunately, "malt barley" is quite different from GBF.

I guess that clinical efficacy is not caused.

Sincerely yours.


***************************************
Strategic Research and Development Dept.
Kirin Holdings Co., Ltd.

Osamu Kanauchi, Ph.D.
Deputy Manager
(Visiting lecturer of Shiga University of Medical Science)
10-1, Shinkawa 2-chome, Chuo-ku, Tokyo
104-8288, Japan

Tel +81-3-5541-5337
Fax +81-3-5541-3547


aguywithuc - where did you get your GBF?
I may be a cynic, but I can't help but think that the only difference between "Germinated Barley Foodstuff" and barley malt is that GBF costs significantly more than $3 per pound.

imagardener2
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   Posted 12/7/2011 3:12 PM (GMT -6)   
wodin said...


aguywithuc - where did you get your GBF?

I may be a cynic, but I can't help but think that the only difference between "Germinated Barley Foodstuff" and barley malt is that GBF costs significantly more than $3 per pound.


You could be right. It may be just splitting hairs on the difference between barley malt and "germinated barley foodstuff" and simply how long either of them has been germinated before drying.


This link discusses how barley malt is made and sounds just like how GBF is made (I think) except for the longer germination time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt
In remission April 2010 after 10 years of UC with no remission ever
Jan 2010 began SpecCarbDiet (modified to remove dairy, fruit & juices,)
Gluten-free=bleeding stopped in 3 days, 95% remission in 5.5 months on SCD
SCDiet: Gluten/grain-free, low starch, low carb, honey as sweetener
(9)Balsalazide+(6)Citrucel, mesalamine enema as needed
(1) VSL#3 nightly-adding fruit back in small quantity 2011
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