My update on using clay for UC -PART II

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lookforcure
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   Posted 7/5/2013 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Cannynancy,
I do not know how well clay works for Crohn's. I would try it just because it is safe, simple, inexpensive, there is no side effects.
At least it will pull some toxins, bacteria and yeast out of your body and increase the body's PH.
What do you have to lose?
Give it a try. I do not promise a miracle. But from all alternative things I tried over 5 years (about 20) clay and probiotic Mutaflor the only 2 things that actually worked for me.
I recommend Pascalite clay or French Green clay. 

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   Posted 7/5/2013 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Deltaforce,
Pascalite is probably better and stronger overall. At least for me, when I added Pascalite to my regimen, I have notice more result.
Everybody is different and react differently.
Pascalite clay is calcium bentonite clay, the one that DOES NOT swell, some calcium bentonite clays do, like Living clay, which I tried too. Sodium bentonite clay like Redmond clay is a swelling type of clay too. Some people have a very good result with Redmond clay too. I did not like the swelling type of clay because I find it too rough for me. It was very binding, but when I went to the bathroom it was extremely painful: my stool was hard but colon did not have time to heal and it scraped the walls of the colon, causing more bleeding.
For people who have extreme diarrhea (10+ times per day), it might be a good idea to take the swelling type of clay in small amounts for a short period of time, just to slow things down a bit and then switch to Pascalite clay.
As for Activated charcoal, I did use it. I am Russian and in my country it is well known and very widely used product just about in every house for diarrhea and food poisoning.
In fact, before I discovered the clay, when I flew to Russia to visit my parents, I was taking Activated charcoal every hour on the flight and it is the only thing that kept me out of the bathroom during the long flight.
I highly advice anybody who struggle with a lot of bloating and gas to take activated charcoal 1-2 capsule/tablet as needed. I would not take too much of it for an extended periods of time but it is one of the safest and most effective products I know for gas and food poisoning.
Chlorella. I did take Japanese Chlorella and took some spirulina.
I have not notice any dramatic results. In my opinion Chlorophyll is more effective detoxifier, liquid chlorophyll can actually help to do the job of hemoglobin. Chlorophyll has the power to regenerate our bodies at the molecular and cellular level.
Clay is much more that just detox agent. It balances the body, increase body's PH, pulls bacteria, yeast out of the body and helps the body heal itself. Chlorella is not capable to do it.
This is just one of the articles about what clay can do:
http://www.naturalnews.com/022475_clay_healing_bacteria.html
I provided multiple articles about this subject in my previous threads.
I am not trying to sell any clays or talk people into taking clays.
I can not guarantee it will work for everybody.
Remember, I followed a very strict diet together with the clay. Also, I tried a few different clays before I found the one that worked the best for me personally. For you it might be a different type of clay that will do the trick.
I took off brand red clay from my local health food store (a little improvement), Living clay (calcium bentonite swelling clay- cut the diarrhea, but too rough), Terramin (did help with the pain and overall feeling), then I added Pascalite and for about 2 weeks I took both clays (Terramin and Pascalite together). This is when I notice dramatic improvement: less pain or no pain, much less trips to the bathroom, better appetite....
After that I took only Pascalite clay in high doses - 5-6 teaspoons per day, each in 1 glass of water.

sarav84
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   Posted 7/27/2013 2:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lookforcure,

How are you doing?

I just completed the course of Prednisolon.
I have started taking the Argiletz clay(1 tsp(woodden spatula) in 1 glass of water) yesterday night. And today morning one glass(1tsp of clay).

I have rumbling noises(a kind of roaring and growling) in the rectum - does that mean the rectum is inflammed mildly? In addition to that I have the below symptoms
1.) Incomplete evacuation (even though I take plenty of fiber(brown rice, rice flakes, boiled veg, fruits - banana, papaya, avacado, pomegranate)
2.) tiny mucus particles floating in the toilet bowl after flushing.
3.) I get spasms and just pass gas.
4.) In the morning the rumbling, vibration of the rectum, spasm is worst.

I took two sachets of Metamucil yesterday(one after the lunch and one after dinner. leaving the gap of 6 hours) and today morning after having a normal BM, about half an hour later the rumbling noises started in the rectum and spasms as well and i passed enormous gas(flatulence) which was also accompanied by some water. :-((( very embarrassing. I don't know whether I took over dosage of Metamucil causing this flatulence. or its because the rectum is inflamed or starting to inflame.

The doctor doesn't have the answer for the rumbling of the rectum!!! The simple response was - your bowel is hypersensitive and people with IBD will have this rumbling symptom which is normal. But I know this is not normal. I insisted for a rectal examination which he denied :( Huhhh!!!

Can the clay heal the inflamed rectum as well? I'm trying to understand how.

I have active cultured yogurt - Activia for getting calcium and protein. Is it OK to include yogurt in the diet when on clay therapy?

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

Post Edited (sarav84) : 7/27/2013 2:31:57 AM (GMT-6)


lookforcure
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   Posted 7/27/2013 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Saravanan,
I was thinking of you.
Gas and a lot of mucus is a typical problem with UC. Plus you just went through a course of Prednisolone which create more yeast in your body.
I did have a lot of gas too, even without Prednisolone.

I think what is happening is the clay is trying to pull a lot of yeast out and some gas with it. You will have a lot of gas coming out, it will get better after the fermentation will stop in your gut. Be patient. If it is very bad, try to get some Activated Charcoal powder (better if it is made from coconut shell), mix 1/2 teaspoon in a glass of water and drink it. You can take up to 2 teaspoonful of the Activated charcoal per day. Activated Charcoal is the best for gas and bloating. You will notice a big difference within 1-2 days.
Metamucil is very useful for constipation and creating bulk in the stool but it can cause gas too. Try to mix Metamucil in warm water, let it swell a bit and then drink it. It is possible you taking too high dose of it. I am not sure how much in the sachets. I would take 1/2 teaspoon in 1 glass of warm water 2 times per day and see if it is enough. If not try 1,5 teaspoons per day and then 2 teaspoons per day. By slowly increasing the dose you will let your body to adjust to Metamucil.
As for Activia, I would be careful with any dairy, especially containing any sugar. By the way, for me bananas is a big NO NO. They give me so much gas. It might be the reason you have so much fermentation in your gut. Try not eat any bananas for 1 week and see if the gas will go away.
Try just regular probiotic, not yogurt. If you can to get Mutaflor, see if Dr. Ohhira's probiotics available. They are very gentle and enteric coated, so they will make it through the stomach acid alive into the small and large intestines.
Check the information about it out:
http://www.drohhiraprobiotics.com/
Eat some almond or sunflower seed butter without sugar.
Add some vegetable soups with carrots, potatoes, rice, zucchinis, garlic, onions, parsley, spinach. Eat some organic soft boiled eggs, 1-2 eggs per day, instead of dairy.
Drink enough water too and/ or vegetable juices. Papaya is very good, if you can tolerate it well. Eat some watermelon on the empty stomach (not with other foods or it will cause more fermentation). try to eat any fruit away from other foods or it will give you more gas.
Stick with it and be patient.
My best wishes to you. Keep in touch!

sarav84
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   Posted 7/27/2013 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lookforcure,

Thanks again for your words.

I would like to understand how does the clay heal the rectal inflammation. Please could you explain?

And I have few other questions do you have any idea on those?
1.) You said its better to avoid yogurt especially the one containing sugar. But you suggested to add carrot and potato which I think are the sugary vegetables. I'm really trying to understand. I have been staying away from the root vegetables thinking that they contain lots of sugar.

2.) Nuts are a BIG NO for me. I remember this flare was caused by the roasted unsalted peanuts(monkey nuts).
I haven't tried almond. I'm thinking to soak the almond overnight and blend it to make a shake. So that it will be easily digested.

3.) A big question floating in my mind since I'm diagnosed with UC. People say that the foods that are difficult to digest triggers the flare. For example nuts. So is it that the residue left over feeds the bad suckers in the colon? or doesn't matter even if make a powder/paste of a food - this would also feed the bad bacteria in the colon? I think if I make the nut powder and drink it as a shake this will be absorbed in the small intestine itself?
I remember green peas is NO for me. I saw it in the stool coming as a whole w/o being digested. Another such example is Ladys finger(okra) seeds.

Thanks again for your response. I will keep you posted on my clay intake. Today I had once in the morning immediately after getting up. Half glass an hour before the lunch, remaining half glass 3hrs after lunch.
Now I'm going to take one full glass which is before going to bed and 3 hours after dinner.

Hope I will feel better tomorrow and hoping that the clay will work for me.

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 7/27/2013 8:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Did I understand correctly that your main problem is the very end of the colon and rectum?
Clay works the same way on the end of the colon as all over the colon and all of the GI tract. It restores the PH of the body from acidic to more alkaline, calms the inflammation, pulls the bacteria, toxins and yeast out and creates the envoronment in the body for healing itself.
For rectal inflammation it is very important to wash this area after each BM with a baby wash and warm water. Keeping it clean is essential. In the cases the water is not available, use wet flushable wipes and then dry it with a toilet paper after.
You can try warm sitz bath with some clay mixed in it or just make a paste of clay, mixed with some coconut oil and put it thickely on the rectum before bed and use a wide pantyliner or a pad on your underwear to keep it inplace. Do this for a few nights and you should see improvement. In addition, during the day use on the area some baby diaper cream with zinc oxide like Desitin maximum strength paste (40% zinc oxide).
 
Vegetables. Cooked vegetables are very different form table sugar. Yes, for some people it is a good idea to cut all the graines and even potatoes out for a while and eat high animal protein diet. This is people who have high yeast overgrowth.Carrots, even though have some natural sugar in it, have antifunglal properties, plus they are high in carotene which is very important in the healing of the tissue. Potatoes are high in starch (carbs), yes, but they are high in potassium, a very important mineral for healing as well. Plus it is very easy to digest. For me personally potatoes, carrots and rice never gave me any trouble, but meat I could not digest well at all. My advice to you is based only on my own experiece. You might need to try SDC diet or even better, check GAPS diet :www.gapsdiet.com
I have never recommended to eat nuts, only nut butter (only Almond or Sunflower seed butter). Peanuts and peanut butter are actually not nuts at all, it is more like beans.
Do not eat any nuts, they are very hard to digest, only nut butter in small amounts.
Also, I do not recommend any beans or peas. Again, they are hard to digest food and not advised to eat while you are in the flare. I could not even digest brown rice at all and saw it in my stool. Peas and beans gave me a lot of gas, pain and cramps.
My advice is only is this-advice based on my own experiece, it might not work for you. Just try it. If you do not see the result, try GAPS diet.
For you, it is very important to take the probiotic that is enteric coated, so it will make it to the colon. Yogurt bacteria will be digested in the stomach and maybe in the small intestines and will not make it to the colon.
Are you still bleeding? When your trips to the bathroom dicrease to 3 or less, your rectum and the end of the colon will quickly heal. Be patient. I had 60 cm inflamed. You probably  had 15cm or less .
Do not give up.

sarav84
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   Posted 7/29/2013 4:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi lookforcure,

Sorry for the late response. I got my left hand palm cut(a deep cut). Huhhh!!! was in pain all day yesterday and still.
I appreciate you taking your time to respond. I really don't know how to thank you.

At the moment I don't see any visible blood on the toilet paper or in the toilet bowl but
> I see tiny mucus floating in the toilet bowl after flushing
> Rumbling in the rectum (probably trapped gas? a kind of motor running on and off in the rectum)
> incomplete evacuation
> feeling of going to the toilet often because of cramps

So I'm thinking it could be a sign of proctitis (stage 0 or 1). To me I want to kick this disease to the quiet state at the very begining itself.

I will keep taking the clay.

I would like to know the type of Argiletz ultraventilated montmorillonite green clay. Is it swelling or non-swelling?
What is the difference between swelling and non-swelling clays?
Please could you explain me?

You have been suggesting non-swelling clay. But I just happened to fall on the below site which says montmorillonite french green clay is a SWELLING clay.

http://worldhealingclay.com/Home.html

I have extracted the contents from the above site for your quick view
`Both Illte and Montmorillonite clays absorb water. However, the Montmorillonite clay is called 'the swelling' type, while illite clays are called 'non-swelling'.`

I really panicked to think am I taking wrong clay? and thought of asking you as you have done a lot of study about the clay :-)
But I understand from your early posts that non-swelling type clay dissolves in minutes. That is what I could see with Argiletz ultraventilated montmorillonite green clay. i.e the clay sediments in the bottom in 15 mins. But then why does the above site say french montmorillonite as swelling type!!!

I would like to discuss few other things w.r.t diet in a separate post :-) because at the moment I really would like to know about the clay type and am I on the right one. I'm going freaking crazy on it.

I once again appreciate your courage to think about this alternative treatment that too when you were in a big flare and share it with the world. Really a nice heart.

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

sarav84
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   Posted 7/29/2013 5:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi lookforcure,

Just to add to my earlier post, I have found the below from http://www.frenchclayforall.com/info.html

Where Does Illite Come From?
Illite clay has been extracted from quarries in France . The chosen sites are pollution-free and selected for their high mineral content. This is an Illite, a Montmorillonite and a Kaolinite clay of the highest purity & quality.
Our Montmorillonite is remarkable as well, but only comes for external use right now dur to its grind.

I'm little worried. Have I brought the wrong clay?

Thanks,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

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   Posted 7/29/2013 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Sarav84,
here is how you will know if it is swelling clay. If after you mixing well your clay with water, say 1teaspoon of clay in 8oz of water, after about 30 minutes the water becomes thicker, the texture of a cream, you have a swelling clay. On the package of the swelling clay it will written that you need to hydrate the clay first for a few hours and then take some of the pre-hydrated  clay mixture and add it to the glass of water and drink it.
The non-swelling clay, you can just put a teaspoon in a glass of water, mix with a wood spoon, let it settle down for 15 min and the heavier particles just fall down and the water well look almost clear like a regular water, just slightly white or green in your case (it is a green clay). It will NOT be thick.
As far as know Argitez is a non-swelling clay.
Sorry about your palm. By the way you can mix some of the clay with water, make a thick paste and put it in the wound. It will relieve the pain and prevent infection, plus speed the healing. I have used my clay for a very bad burn. It took the pain away in a few minutes and helped to heal the skin without any scar.

sarav84
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   Posted 7/29/2013 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi lookforcure,

Thanks again for your response.
So am I taking the right clay? You have explained clearly about the swelling clay which will make the water thick after 30mins. That has clarified that the clay I'm using is non-swelling.

But I'm little worried about the below content taken from the site http://www.frenchclayforall.com/info.html - which says montmorillonite is only for external use.

Where Does Illite Come From?
Illite clay has been extracted from quarries in France . The chosen sites are pollution-free and selected for their high mineral content. This is an Illite, a Montmorillonite and a Kaolinite clay of the highest purity & quality.
Our Montmorillonite is remarkable as well, but only comes for external use right now dur to its grind.

Do you have any idea on this?

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 7/29/2013 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Since you have Argiletz clay and not the one from www.frenchclayforall.com you do not need to worry about it.
I have the Illite French green clay from them and it is for internal use, non-swelling clay.
If your clay is very fine and smooth and it does not swell, it IS RIGHT CLAY.

sarav84
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   Posted 7/29/2013 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lookforcure,

Thank you very much again. Now I could breathe :-)

You said you bought, illite clay. How did you do with that? Did you find it helpful?

Sorry to keep pestering you. Hope you don't mind. :-)

Thanks,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 7/29/2013 12:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Illite French Green clay seems to better for pain. I have sent some of it to my mother and she said it is a little stronger for inflamation than Pascalite clay (she has it too). My mother has very sensitive and inflamed gums, so she uses clay to relieve the pain and inflamation.
I can not really say the Illite French clay is better than Pascalite clay, they are just different. My reaction to them does not mean that your reaction will be the same as mine. By the way, Pascalite clay is a little more "grainy", not as smooth as the French clay. French clay texture is like flour, very smooth, like talc or baby powder. But the Pascalite clay pulled me out of a bad flare about 1,5 years ago.
I would say this: if you do not get any the result from your clay, try to increase the dose to 3 teaspoons or even 4-5 teaspoons.
I did take at my worst 5-6 teaspoons of clay per day. Just drink plenty of water thoughtout the day. Make sure it is good, filtered water.
In case you decided to try to add Activated Charcoal for gas/bloating, you need to know that your stool will turn black, do not worry, it is safe and absolutely harmless. The only thing to know about charcoal- it might cause constipation at high doses.
So, try just 1/2-1 teaspoon in 1-2 glasses of water mix well and drink throught the day, little by little after each meal.
It is great that you are not bleeding now and as for the mucus, it will stop after your colon and rectum will heal some more.
Good luck!

sarav84
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   Posted 7/30/2013 5:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi lookforcure,

I emailed Argiletz last week about the internal use of Montmorillonite and got the below response,
we confirm to you that since the 1st of July 2009 (European standards have changed), we have no more safety agreement for our green illite clay. It means that we cannot write on the box some advices for the internal use but we know that most of our customers are using our clay for this request.
Many customers call and inform us that they keep on using our illite clay for internal use even if it is not allowed
Moreover, we never had safety agreement for others clays (Kaolin, Montmorillonite) so we are not allowed to recommend any other clay for internal use.


I'm still taking Montmorillonite, this is my 4th day. I will keep you updated.

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

sarav84
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   Posted 8/2/2013 4:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Looks like the clay is doing something. I certainly feel that it has removed the rumbling in my rectum. Since two days I haven't had any rumbling in my rectum. Thanks to Lookforecure.

But incomplete evacuation is still a problem. I start with a nice well formed soft stool and then soft small stools, then not well formed stools and this is where the stools stuck in the last part of the rectum. I know something is the rectum but doesn't come out.

Today I strained a bit for the above said symptom, I did bring out few unformed stools but still the rectum was not empty. Then after an hour I was continuously having the feeling of having a bowel movement.
Then I had a feeling of passing the gas but didn't come out. I went to poop nothing came out and I had to strain again - lots of unformed small stool came out. Rectum was burning as well.

Didn't see any mucus nor blood. Huhhh... I really don't know what's going on.

Could the symptoms I reported be a early sign of proctitis or is it IBS? Looks like the rectum is really stiff.
Is that the people with IBD/UC cannot expect a normal bowel movement or 1 bowel movement in a day?

Cheers,
Saravanan
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

sarav84
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   Posted 8/2/2013 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
oops rumbling in the rectum is back. confused
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

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   Posted 8/2/2013 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Sarav84,
are you taking any probiotics? If not start. Probiotics will help to reestablish the good bacteria in your gut and will help with a normal bowel movement. Clay is "cleaning the house" of yeast and bad bacteria and probiotics will restore the "good guys" in your gut. Just remember to give 1 hour after the clay before taking probiotics.
The feeling of not complete BM and stiff low part of the colon is probably your proctitis. I am sure there is still some inflammation left and your peristalsis are not working right. Give it some time. Metamucil, dissolved in some warm water, taking 2-3 times per day in a smaller dose, might help with a better stool forming and more complete evacuation.
It is possible not everything is coming out properly. Drink a lot of water too.
How many times are going to the bathroom now? If it is 3 times or less and no blood/mucus you are doing very well.
Be patient, it will get better.
P.S. rumbling might be connected to what you ate. Examine your diet. Something in it is the cause.

sarav84
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   Posted 8/2/2013 9:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lana,

As always whenever I see your reply, I feel like I have someone to care for me.

OK here is my diet -
Clay water(1tea spoon in 8oz of water) - In empty stomach - as soon as I get up.
after 1 hour Breakfast:-
Start with watergrass powder(3grams) in blueberry juice(home made - blended and filtered to remove the skin and seeds. NO sugar added.)
Papaya fruit
after 1 hour - soft Rice flakes (i.e rice flakes soaked in water over night)
2 table spoon of Nuts powder(home made - almond,corn,peanuts,cashew) cooked in water to
paste.
Pomegranate fruit (200 gms)

after 1 hour - Start drinking water sip by sip to half a liter till the lunch

Lunch:-
Brown rice with corriander chutney(home made - corriander leavers blended to form watery paste and cook it with little olive oil, salt and turmeric powder) + boiled bottlegourd vegetable + avocado + yogurt
After 1 hour - Start drinking water sip by sip to half a liter till the dinner
Clay water(1tea spoon in 8oz of water) - Before 1 hour to dinner
Dinner:-
Boiled Drumstick vegetable + 2 table spoon of Nuts powder(home made - almond,corn,peanuts,cashew) cooked in water to paste.
Clay water(1tea spoon in 8oz of water) - After two and a half hours from dinner

I really don't know where and what to change in my diet. All are soft foods with no chilli powder, no spices, no sugar.
I have red eyes(left side) since a week.
From the below link I could sense the symptoms I have is NOT IBS. It says red eyes are a warning for a flare.
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=1539638

I'm going to the bathroom 1 or 2 times a day so far. Till yesterday only once. But today twice. The 2nd bowel movement was also incomplete.

I'm really loosing hope. But I'll try to be positive and I'll continue with the clay.

Thanks again for your words.
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 8/2/2013 9:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Are you sure you are not allergic to one of the nuts like peanuts or cashews? Corn is not a nut, it is a grain and it is hard to digest. In the USA majority corn is GMO. I would not eat it at all. Nut powder is worrying me.
I personally have allergies to cashews, sesame seeds and many spices like oregano, coriander, marjoram, rosemary....
As for red eyes it might be a sign of allergies. Take Claritin for a few days and see if it gets better.
Stop the Nut powder for a few days too. The rest I think is a pretty good diet.
1-2 bowel movements per day without blood/cramps is considered normal for any healthy person and many people on this forum would be happy to be where you are now.
Why are you upset? Within a very short time you got to a "very good place".

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   Posted 8/2/2013 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi lookforcure,

I'm allergic to peanuts. I thought when taken as a whole it will be difficult to digest which could cause the problem hence powdered. So if I understand correctly if the nuts eaten as a whole, chances of getting the problem is more but nevertheless nuts powder will also cause the problem as it feeds the bad bacteria?
I thought the nuts powder gets absorbed in the small intestine itself and it won't travel down to the colon to feed the bad bacteria. Huhh pretty complicated!!

Ok, I will stop the nuts powder for a few days. Corn is powdered and mixed with the nuts powder so that I get I carbs, protein and fat.
I tried the red lentils, green gram, toor dal all are causing gas.
My worry is that - its has just been two weeks since I finished prednisolone and the symptoms seems to be returning. And I wish I won't be in another flare as my parents are looking alliance for me.
How I'm going tackle with this chronic disease is my biggest worry. That is why I'm really upset.

I have a big big hope on the clay remedy. Daily I cry to God, please make this clay work.

I'm going to order Mutaflor probiotic. I will use clay and mutaflor.
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 8/2/2013 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Stop the nut powder! If you are allergic to peanuts it could be the reason for many of your problems, peanuts keep irritating your GI system. Also, corn is a very bad idea and does not have any nutritional value. Do not eat any nuts at all. Better eat some potatoes if you want more carbs. Eat some coconut curry, go easy on the spices, they could be a problem too. Just some salt and garlic. Coconut milk ia a good idea. Eat some fresh coconuts.
Mutaflor is a very good idea.
Read my post on this forum about candida and Antibiotic syndrome. Very useful information on it about how to reduce the candida and bad bacteria (baking soda in water 2-3 hours after a meal and then 30-60min later probiotics).
If you will be stressing yourself like this you will get another flare. You need to calm down. Drink some herbal tea like peppermint, take a warm bath, listen to some relaxing music, take a walk in the park...
Calm yourself down. You are doing well, you are healing. Stop panicking!

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   Posted 8/2/2013 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lana,

I wasn't allergic to peanuts before diagnosed with UC. I use to eat tons in my childhood.
But I will stop taking it. I will try potatoes and will start with a small amount to see how I react :-)

I often realize that I'm panicking but couldn't control the anxiety. I will have to learn to control. Thanks for the suggestions.

I just called the pascalite company and they said they could ship to Netherlands. They are going to send out the samples on coming Tuesday. I will add it to the green clay.
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 8/2/2013 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Very good!
Try Pascaite.
I was not allergic to any foods before colitis too. I think it is connected to the compromised immune system, lack of a good bacteria, too much of a bad bacteria and candida and inability to digest some foods properly caused by a lack of the enzymes.
If you even suspect any type of food you eat as an irritant or allergic to, remove it from your diet.

sarav84
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   Posted 8/2/2013 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lana,

Please do you have any idea on one of my previous posts?
Nuts when eaten as a whole, chances of getting the problem is more but nuts powder will also cause the problem as it feeds the bad bacteria?
I thought the nuts powder gets absorbed in the small intestine itself and it won't travel down to the colon to feed the bad bacteria.

If I get an idea on this, then I will select the foods accordingly.
Dx Proctosigmoiditis in Oct'12 - Predmet 24/16/8/4mg, Balacol 2250mg, Folvite, Livogen
Dx Sigmoiditis in May'13 - Prednisolone 40mg/35/30/20/15/10/5, Mesalamine(Pentasa) 4g

lookforcure
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   Posted 8/2/2013 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Majority foods are absorbed in the small intestines. But digestion is much more complicated than that. If you eat any foods that are high in allergens and sugar they will feed the bad bacteria and candida. The whole GI tract is effected by what you eat. Have you ever heard about "Licky gut syndrome"? It means you actually have microscopic holes in your intestines and some food particles, bacteria and candida can get through into your blood stream and cause the allergic reactions like a rash, itchiness, swelling.... It is a very primitive and simple explanation but you got the general idea.
Do not think about where exactly some foods are absorbed but what you put into your body. Does this food help me to heal or not.
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