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Poppie
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   Posted 12/5/2016 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering how you guys deal with socializing because the last time I went out and was introduced to someone I had to shake their hand and unbeknown to me at the time he had Costa Rican "Gripe" (a kind of flu)... which took me nearly three weeks to get over! and just when I thought I was getting better it would come back with a vengeance.

What can you say when greeting someone and they offer their hand to shake? or worse, want to kiss you?

Its a problem of which I am unsure of how to deal with.

Actually, I have never mentioned this before but I think I am possibly on the autism spectrum and so I am awkward anyway and never like to make eye contact, but really, my primary concern is that I don't want people to make me ill through direct touch.
Samantha
Stopped smoking Jan 2013. Diagnosed Left sided UC, 8th Feb 2014.
Gluten, Dairy, Sulfite, Salicylate, and Histamine intolerant.
Had home FMT treatment in July 2016 to ward off reoccurrence of C DIfficile.
Started smoking 5 ciggies a day.
Had to go back on Prednisone due to stopping Azathioprine, looking at other Meds at the moment.

ks1905
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   Posted 12/5/2016 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Wash your hands more often, it is one of the best ways to prevent illness. Also try not to touch your mouth or eyes after meeting people, it's a way for germs to get into your body.

It's getting more common for people not to look directly at others while talking. Many people have grown up looking at cellphones and talking. I wouldn't worry about it too much but it is nice to look at someone while talking to them, sometimes I really have to concentrate at doing it too.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara and Sulfasalazine

imagardener2
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   Posted 12/5/2016 5:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I quit shaking hands 15 years ago after getting the worst respiratory bug ever, almost went to hospital. My hubby identified the people I shook hands with as the vector. Lost my whole vacation and took several months to get back to normal. I don't remember UC being a factor then.

Later I discovered several famous people people (Donald trump was one ha) didn't shake hands either. Some people think it's a political statement when I offer to bump fists but it's my health. Doctors respect my decision.

World travel means bugs travel faster than ever, the world is at our doorstep.
Shaking hands is medieval to show you have no weapons. Infectious diseases are weapons and I decline to participate. I have not had the flu since I quit shaking hands and I do not get a flu shot. (Yes I believe children should get vaccines but perhaps not on such an intense schedule).

I do not care what other people think about my not shaking hands, health comes first.

iPoop
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   Posted 12/5/2016 6:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never had to shake hands with strangers, aquantinces etc. Same goes with kissing them.

Generally i follow the CDC guidelines that health professionals do when working with patients to prevent spread of disease. You want to wash your hands after shaking hands, touching common disease transfer points like door handles, and avoid touching yourself around your face, nose and eyes (some have habits of rubbing their chin that might spread pathogens to where we'd catch them). Keep a small bottle of hand sanitizer in your purse for when batgrooms aren't available.

Most public door handles are handicap-accessible, rather than be knobs they can be pushed down on. So, they can be opened with an elbow.
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John
, 38, in a minor flare, UC Proctosigmoiditis
Rx: Remicade @5mgs/kg/6wks; 50mgs 6MP, 4.8g Lialda, 10mgs pred (tapering)

I hope I don't get a jackpot at the fart casino...

Uniform Charlie
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   Posted 12/5/2016 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
You have never had to shake a stranger's hand, John? I am always being introduced to people that I don't know at parties etc. They always extend a hand to shake.

I think a good way to avoid shaking hands or hugging/kissing is to say that you are sick and don't want to get them sick. I am never offended when people do that, I usually appreciate it.
Male Mid 30's
Diagnosed Proctosigmoiditis (UC) February 2015
Current Meds: Lialda 1.2gm 2x daily, generic rowasa as needed
Perianal Abscess June 2015
Fistulotomy December 2015...Doc's still say it's UC, not Crohn's

Specific Carbohydrate Diet started June 2015. Still going strong.

"Happiness doesn't depend on who you are or what you have, it depends solely on what you think." -Dale Carnegie

iPoop
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   Posted 12/5/2016 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Haha no hand shakes as a simple hi is sufficient. I've been told that New Englanders aren't all that friendly (by people from other areas).
Moderator Ulcerative Colitis
John
, 38, in a minor flare, UC Proctosigmoiditis
Rx: Remicade @5mgs/kg/6wks; 50mgs 6MP, 4.8g Lialda, 10mgs pred (tapering)

I hope I don't get a jackpot at the fart casino...

Bloom93
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   Posted 12/5/2016 8:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Poppie,
I have seen many people saying Hi instead of lending their hands to give peace during mass. DD did the "Hi" for 2 yrs while watching the diet.

If interested in a change - try the Indian greetings - Namaste!!!
Daughter 22 yrs- UC Pan colitis.-In Remission.
Diagnosed in May 2011
SCD diet (2011-2013)
Occasional sugar , milk and outside foods(2013- 2014)
Normal diet - 2015
Current meds- Lialda- 2 tabs a day.
5 Home fecal transplants for C.diff in dec 2011.

Red_34
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   Posted 12/6/2016 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I hardly ever shake hands either. And when I go to public places I wash my hands when I get home. I believe that in the past I wasn't as conscious about washing which I ended up getting the flu from hell.

Now, I just say, sorry, no offense but I don't shake hands.
SHERRY
Moderator-Allergies/Asthma, Alzheimer's, IBS, Co-moderator-UC
Diagnosed Left sided UC '92 - meds: Apriso, Remicade) Unable to tolerate MOST mesalamines* Currently in Remission, IBS, Diverticuliar Disease, Fibro, Sacroiilitis, Raynauds, OA, PA, Rosacea, Psoriasis, Dry eye syndrome (which caused a blockage -had the DCR surgery 2015 success!), allergies-Zyrtec

momto2boys
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   Posted 12/6/2016 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I often tell people that it was very nice to meet them, but I have been feeling under the weather and don't want to share my germs. Sometimes it can't be helped and the. I wash my hands like crazy.
41 yrs old diagnosed with proctosigmoiditis 6/13/13
meds- 2 Lialda + sfRowasa nightly - supplements: probiotics (1 VSL3 cap, 1 culturelle and 1 reuteri) 1 gram krill Oil, 2 TBSP p. seed powder, 2 g curcumin. Allegra for seasonal allergies as needed. Allergic to sulfites. Currently gluten/dairy free (except yogurt) and eating lots of RS.

ks1905
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   Posted 12/6/2016 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
There are far more germy ways to come in contact with germs on a daily basis than shaking hands. Doors handles on public buildings, sink faucets, toilet handles, keyboards, etc... It's like shaking hands with dozens or hundreds of people all at once. I have no problem with shaking people's' hands just as long as I wash my hands afterwards.

The best thing that you can do is wash your hands with soap often throughout the day.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara and Sulfasalazine

hateuc
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   Posted 12/6/2016 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Funny, I'll shake hands but I don't touch door knobs and I am leary of "community pens" on the credit card sign thing. I try to wash my hands a lot or if I am not near a sink...I will Purell. I'd like to do it as they do in Japan and just bow.

It does kill me though...in my son's school--the nurse talks about not sharing germs...but when they buy lunch all the kids type their code in the machine to pay and then eat their food. Can you imagine all of the germs shared on that machine???? I wish they would force at least an alcohol wipe after that.

I do agree with what Keith said above.
B

quincy
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   Posted 12/6/2016 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
^^ Oh yeah....i know about the machines and mentally puke at the thought of coin candy/nut dispensers and communal bowls of help-yourself food.

I shake hands and wash hands or use wipes before eating, once I get into my car, when I get home, wipe stuff that I bring home, clean my phone, etc....
I'm with everyone regarding door knobs, railings, etc....

I also hug friends and family.


I look at people and their canes and walkers and realise where they've been and that they go from inside to out and vice versa .....they never wipe them down I bet, and use the end of those canes to push buttons...sigh.


I'm aware all the time, but not obsessed crazily in the moment to avoidance unless someone is obviously sick.

This post of mine could go on forever, but I best stop because the question was only about shaking hands....oopsie.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 12/6/2016 12:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I shake hands without any thought, never wash my hands except after going to the toilet, never wipe anything down, never use antibacterial wipes, haven't had the flu vaccine, etc. Come at me, bro.
Dx Crohn's in June 2000. (Yay skull)
Tried: 5-ASAs, azathioprine, 6MP, Remicade, methotrexate, Humira, diets.
1st surgery 20/2/13 - subtotal colectomy with end ileostomy.
2nd surgery 10/7/15 - ileorectal anastomosis. Stoma reversed and ileum connected to the rectum.
Current status: Chronic flare. Do I have any other kind?
Current meds: 50mg 6MP; Entyvio (started 3/11/16)

ks1905
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
quincy said...
^^
I look at people and their canes and walkers and realise where they've been and that they go from inside to out and vice versa .....they never wipe them down I bet, and use the end of those canes to push buttons...sigh.

This post of mine could go on forever, but I best stop because the question was only about shaking hands....oopsie.

q


How about when people let their dogs kiss them on the mouth...yuck. Have they seen what dogs put in their mouth and what they lick.

I didn't even think about about a cane, I'm getting one tomorrow after my hip surgery. Probably have it for 30 days and then I'll burn it... gross.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara and Sulfasalazine

quincy
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh yes, I have the same attitude of dogs. You can only imagine what I think of when people let their dogs sit in the passenger seat of their car with no cover.
But then again....restaurants and kids walking on the seats after being in the bathrooms....the list is endless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,..........aaarrrrrrghhhhhhh
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I genuinely cannot fathom thinking like this.
Dx Crohn's in June 2000. (Yay skull)
Tried: 5-ASAs, azathioprine, 6MP, Remicade, methotrexate, Humira, diets.
1st surgery 20/2/13 - subtotal colectomy with end ileostomy.
2nd surgery 10/7/15 - ileorectal anastomosis. Stoma reversed and ileum connected to the rectum.
Current status: Chronic flare. Do I have any other kind?
Current meds: 50mg 6MP; Entyvio (started 3/11/16)

TroubledTurds
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
i like to avoid getting sick just like everyone, but i purposely avoid many germy, disgusting things so i can shake someone's hand when the opportunity arises - men shake hands - if i die because of it, oh well -
dx'd with pancolitis 12/21/03
current supplements:vit D, cal/mag, Psyllium Seed powder/Heather's Acacia fiber/ L-Glutamine/Hemp powder slurry 1x/week - grain free/paleoish diet that includes 100% grass fed beef, raw goat milk, & local organic free range eggs, lots of all natural well water, exercise, sleep as much as possible & enjoy this great life that God has blessed me with !

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I usually just shake the hand. The chances of getting something is probably not very high, especially if you wash your hands when it's convenient. I mean, I wouldn't rush to wash my hands after shaking someone's hand, but next time I pass a restroom, I might stop in. I go out of my way to wash my hands before I eat, especially if I've touched a public surface. I would think a kiss on the cheek is okay too, so long as the person doesn't have something communicable. I've actually turned down shaking hands when I was sick, so maybe other people do the same. A lot of people do little hugs here. I do that too. I doubt contagious people are coming in for hugs, that would be rude.
Co-moderator: Ulcerative Colitis
Diagnosed with Pancolitis, Laryngopharyngeal Reflux & Migraines. Battling Extreme Exhaustion.
Currently: no meds. 6/15 Step One J-pouch Surgery Complete! 9/15 Step Two Complete! 11/15 Step 3 Complete!

NiceCupOfTea
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
So what horrible diseases are you going to catch if you sit in a car seat where a dog has sat before you? I shared a chair with our old Jack Russell terrier for 16 years and I'm still here.

Edit: That was to soy.

quincy
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   Posted 12/6/2016 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
NCOT....no biggie, It was to me, and we are just putting out what we see and recognise. Perspective.

q
*Heather* I give suggestions, do with them what you will.
Status: ...Asacol 3 @ 2x daily; Salofalk enema @ 3rd night (nightly/ flares, tapered/maintenance)
~diagnosed January 1989 UC (proctosigmoiditis)
~Bentylol 20mg as needed; Zantac 150mg; Pulmicort/Airomir (asthma);Effexor XR 37.5 (depression)
~vitamins/minerals/supplements; Probiotics....(RenewLife Ultimate Flora Critical Care+Primadophilus Reuteri capsules @ bedtime)
~Metamucil capsules 7 @ 2x daily with meals; Vitamin D 4500 IU
~URSO 500mg @ 2x daily for Primary Biliary Cholangitis
My doc's logic.. "TREAT (FROM)BOTH ENDS" worth it !!!

notsosicklygirl
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   Posted 12/6/2016 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Some people do much worse things in their cars haha. I always think about hotel beds and things. How clean are those sheets and towels really? Glasses at restaurants? I had one with lipstick on it the other day. gross. I'll deal with the dog hair...
Co-moderator: Ulcerative Colitis
Diagnosed with Pancolitis, Laryngopharyngeal Reflux & Migraines. Battling Extreme Exhaustion.
Currently: no meds. 6/15 Step One J-pouch Surgery Complete! 9/15 Step Two Complete! 11/15 Step 3 Complete!

ks1905
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   Posted 12/6/2016 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey people, germs are good and are needed to build up our immune systems. We just need to practice good hygiene and wash our hands more often than most people.

I got a labradoodle puppy this past summer, she is hypoallergenic and doesn't really shed but she still has a seat cover for my car so she doesn't ruin the seat with her nails.
Keith

DX'd with Severe Pancolitis June 2005
Previous Meds: 5ASAs, Predisone, 6-MP. Remicade, Humira, Simponi, Cimzia & Cyclosporine
3-step J-Pouch surgery: 2013 & 2014

Current Condition: Chronic Pouchitis -- Not as bad as I thought it would be
Current Meds: Stelara and Sulfasalazine

Poppie
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   Posted 12/6/2016 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting!..would you believe I actually had to shake hands with someone TODAY!!!

I had no choice, I'm trying to sell my house and the couple that came round seemed to really love it and I thought no way can I refuse to shake your hand!! I just washed it immediately after they left, but in future, I am going to refuse to shake hands because I know how sick I was last time and it's not worth it.

I do agree that public toilets are a place to be wary off, and I just make sure I never touch anything without a bit of toilet roll between me and the handle.
Samantha
Stopped smoking Jan 2013. Diagnosed Left sided UC, 8th Feb 2014.
Gluten, Dairy, Sulfite, Salicylate, and Histamine intolerant.
Had home FMT treatment in July 2016 to ward off reoccurrence of C DIfficile.
Started smoking 5 ciggies a day.
Had to go back on Prednisone due to stopping Azathioprine, looking at other Meds at the moment.

notsosicklygirl
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 15134
   Posted 12/6/2016 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Just say you're not feeling 100% and they will think you're doing them the favor. trust me, that works. Good for you for standing up to the fear :) I hope they are the buyers.
Co-moderator: Ulcerative Colitis
Diagnosed with Pancolitis, Laryngopharyngeal Reflux & Migraines. Battling Extreme Exhaustion.
Currently: no meds. 6/15 Step One J-pouch Surgery Complete! 9/15 Step Two Complete! 11/15 Step 3 Complete!

Red_34
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   Posted 12/7/2016 10:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Ks, my immune system is built up quite enough ;)
SHERRY
Moderator-Allergies/Asthma, Alzheimer's, IBS, Co-moderator-UC
Diagnosed Left sided UC '92 - meds: Apriso, Remicade) Unable to tolerate MOST mesalamines* Currently in Remission, IBS, Diverticuliar Disease, Fibro, Sacroiilitis, Raynauds, OA, PA, Rosacea, Psoriasis, Dry eye syndrome (which caused a blockage -had the DCR surgery 2015 success!), allergies-Zyrtec
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