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Sara14
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   Posted 10/28/2007 11:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Does anyone take an inulin supplement? If so, can you suggest a good brand? I saw NOW inulin for pretty cheap on some Web site the other day and was thinking about trying it. For those who don't know, inulin is a prebiotic (supposed to help stimulate growth of good gut bacteria, or probiotics) and it's been shown to increase calcium absorption. It's also a good source of soluble fiber. It's added to Stonyfield Farm yogurt (which I used to eat but I can't find it in stores here anymore) and to this new Yoplait digestive yogurt, which I'm trying out now, too. Thanks in advance for any replies. =)
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - every other night
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil and Fiber Choice; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


Horus
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   Posted 10/29/2007 3:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Now is a good brand as it has a mix of short and long chain inulin.(long chain being the preferred). Inulin is converted into butyrate in the colon by bacteria. Fiber choice also has a mix short and long chain inulin with vitamins and calcium in it but it looks like you already use fiber choice.

I'd be careful selecting inulin as you'll quickly find out that exclusively short chain length inulin is deleterious. Too many different species good AND bad can feed on short chain inulin as it acts a lot like table sugar. Stay away from fiber sure from metamucil. It nearly floored me in pain at it's recommended dosage which i chalk up to the exclusive short chain of inulin in that particular product. You'd think that metamucil makers would be smarter than that with inulin. Buying exclusive long chain inulin is non existant without buying 40 lbs of it in bulk.

Old Hat
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   Posted 10/29/2007 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried contacting StonyField Farms via Web or 800 phone no. to ask where they distribute in your area? The commercial issues surrounding yogurt really annoy me; it's hard to find the good unadulterated stuff like SFF or Brown Cow in my neighborhood because the grocers stock whole refrigerator cases full of the junk brands that have added starch, sugar, & flavoring glop. Just give us those needed active cultures, folks! / Old Hat (nearly 30 yrs with left-sided UC ... [etc.])

Sara14
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   Posted 10/29/2007 12:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies.

Horus - I forgot Fiber Choice had inulin in it. I just recently bought it and haven't really taken it much yet, b/c I think the taste and texture is kind of gross. So, you would reccommend to stay away from Metamucil and Fiber Sure? I've been eating the Metamucil wafers and had some mild abdominal pain the first week or two but now that's gone. They have 6 g of fiber per serving and are pretty tasty. I don't see inulin listed as an ingredient...or is it naturally in psyllium? Do you take an inulin supp.? Sorry for all the questions.

Old Hat - Thanks for the suggestiond. I checked w/their Web site. I'm in a pretty small city (about 8,000 pop.) They do sell individual serving containers at our local co-op, but they're pretty expensive there and they don't have the flavor I like. I could probably request they order some for me though. I used to buy the 32 oz. containers at Wal-Mart, but I stopped seeing it there a couple months ago. I know what you mean about the popular yogurt brands being filled with crap. I kind of want to try making my own. I've never tried Brown Cow.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - every other night
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil and Fiber Choice; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


Old Hat
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   Posted 10/29/2007 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Brown Cow yogurt is likely harder to find than SFF. It drives me nuts tracking down the 32 oz. containers, but I heartily recommend the vanilla if you can get it. I try to stick with the nonfat, but they also market lowfat & regular (cream top). 32 oz. can vary in price where I live from $3.29 to $5.15; can you believe it?  Brown Cow does not contain inulin, by the way, but it seems to have good cultures that help the colon to function better, at least in my experience. / Old Hat

dakotagirl
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   Posted 10/29/2007 4:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried Fibersure and the inulin gave me gas! I think it's the short chain form.

A prebiotic I tried ones was Acacia Tummy Fiber. You can google it for more info.
Pan-colitis and GERD diagnosed May 2003
 
Asacol 12 per day,  Azathioprine 75mg, Rowasa and Canasa as needed
Aciphex, Effexor XR, BCP, Rhinocort nasal spray
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Horus
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   Posted 10/29/2007 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Sara,

Metamucil is fine because it has psyllium husk in it. Fiber sure (from the makers of metamucil)-a seperate product, I had a bad reaction to becuase of the short length inulin it is mostly comprised of. In that form it doesn't turn into butyrate becuase most every kind of bacteria can use it for a food source and turn it into something you don't want. I actually like the cherry taste of my fiber choice. The texture is like candy to me and I haven't had candy in 10 years so it's a treat for me. I tried getting exclusively long chain inulin but no one sells it retail. They do sell it wholesale in 40 lbs containers I found out but that is a bit too much for just one person.

Sara14
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   Posted 10/29/2007 11:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Old Hat - If you're talking about the nonfat vanilla SFF, that is the one I like the best too.

Horus - Thanks for re-explaining that to me. I must have read you previous post wrong. I will stay away from the Fiber Sure. My Fiber Choice (I have the kind w/calcium added) is an assorted berry flavor and it definitely doesn't taste like candy to me, but glad you like it! =) And, yeah, I think 40 lbs of inulin would be a bit much.

dakota - I will look into the tummy fiber. I like that it's called tummy fiber. =)
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - every other night
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil and Fiber Choice; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


Horus
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   Posted 10/30/2007 5:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Sara,

Acacia fiber gets converted mainly to propionate which is not as beneficial as butyrate. Yes you will get gas from injesting resistant starches, that's not really a bad thing if you can handle the gas pains. I remember years ago if someone had pushed something to try on me that would have increased gas I wouldn't even think about taking something like that. However, the gas eventually goes away and the benefits to those with UC far far far outweighs the initial discomfort and should actually be a huge part of the diet as I regularly injest about 45 grams of resistant starch fiber a day.

Sara14
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   Posted 11/1/2007 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Horus. Does it matter what time of day I take the inulin? Or if I take it with food or not? Should I be taking it at the same time I take my probiotic?
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - every other night
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil and Fiber Choice; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


1s
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   Posted 11/13/2007 5:50 AM (GMT -6)   
i had terrible results after eating stonyfield yogurt with inulin. SCD says inulin is bad for reasons mentioned above. Psyllium however has been good to me. it seems that the tapioca works in a similar way, bu ti have not tried that treatment yet
left sided
prescribed lialda
take herbal meds instead


Sara14
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   Posted 11/14/2007 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
The Wal-Mart here now sells an organic fat-free yogurt in 32 oz. containers called Horizon. It has something in it called fructan and they have NutraFlora in parentheses after fructan. I looked it up and I think fructan is a type of inulin. The yogurt has good bacteria strains, too, like Stoneyfield.

The inulin supplement seemed to be giving me gas, but I know that is prob. normal at first.
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - every other night
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil and Fiber Choice; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; ground flaxseed


Probiotic
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   Posted 11/14/2007 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I tried Pro-Bio and its inulin did give me alot of gas. Has anyone had that experience and does it go away if you keep it up a few days or so? I did it for 4 days and it wasn't going away, and was causing some pain too. I do wish they'd offer probiotics in an 'inulin free' version in those cases, but I am considering trying it again at a low dose, eg half a capsule, and building up- if it is a case of temporary gas.
Pancolitis dx'd 1986, full med-free remission 88-97
Flaring or simmering ever since
10 20 17.5 15 12.5 mg pred, 100 mg Imuran
Probiotics (Primal Defense and others), TSO
Turmeric/circumin, fish oil, many vits/minerals
Lower-carb version of Specific Carb Diet (SCD)
 
 
 


Sara14
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   Posted 11/18/2007 11:46 PM (GMT -6)   
How do you know if the inulin in a product is short or long chain or a combo. of both?
23 years old
Diagnosed with UC March 2007
Current inflamation in the rectum
Asacol 4 tablets 3x/day
Rowasa (generic) - as needed for flares
Nature's Way Primadophilus Reuteri 1/day; Chewable multivitamin; Metamucil; Viactiv (Calcium and Vit. D) for Osteopenia; flaxseed


relativelyquantum
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   Posted 11/19/2007 3:09 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been adding FOS/stevia packets (the brand is Stevia plus by SweetLeaf) to my plain-jane, brown cow, low fat yogurt and it isn't too bad. Also, I will blend up some berries, keep it in the fridge, and add a few spoonfuls to the yogurt. I know FOS (which is sometimes equated with inulin) and I am curious if stevia could also be broken down... it is supposed to just taste sweet and pass through undigested, but I wonder if probiotics could digest it. I don't think it matters much when you take it, though I typically just add it to what I am eating that needs sweetening and other fiber sources feed it later on.

SCD is a great diet, but I think the philosophy is slightly skewed or simply based on older assumptions. I now understand that FOS or inulin, though restricted on this diet, do not generally benefit the bad as much as the good bacteria. I wanted to take a few lines out of the "probiotics revolution" book (pg 271), refers to two prebiotic "super" fibers:
"Oligosaccharides are a form of soluble fiber found in vegetables. We can't digest them, but probiotic microbes can. One oligosaccharide, fructo-oligosaccharide (FOS), is a particular effective prebiotic. And a form of FOS called short-chain fructo-oligosaccharide (scFOS) is being considered as a possible sweetener for food, because it has a sweet taste.
"Inulin is another excellent prebiotic fiber. It's found in many vegetables, but the major source of inulin in the American diet are wheat, onions, and green bananas."
Pancolitis '04
Yet to ever go into remission, additional Flare-up since Aug 12th and still atempting to work in the midst of it Time off work since 10/17. 
 
Finally seeing some improvement; likely was complicated with a digestional yeast overgrowth.
 
On Lialda (2/dy), probiotics, Oriental Medical Tea & Prescribed Diet, Fish Oil

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