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rey
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   Posted 12/13/2007 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
reading the when to tell th e question , someone mentioned that uc may be contagious. curious what is the contagious link, maybe then there is something to treat like an infection? are there any studies about conagion with uc or crohns?
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   Posted 12/13/2007 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Highly unlikely...I've been married 18 yrs and have had IBD for going on 17 yrs, so if in almost 2 decades my hubby hasn't gotten it yet then I'd have to say it's a firm NO...One has to be predsiposed to getting IBD, then it has to be triggered for them, if one is predisposed to getting it they cannot contract it from another IBDer either.

p.s. my hubby and I have been together for a total of 25 yrs.
 
Here's a link to help put your mind at ease...
 
 
 

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Post Edited (pb4) : 12/13/2007 4:27:02 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/13/2007 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
There was a study done on mice who had IBD's and those mice were intermingled with the healthy mice. The sick mice infected the healthy mice but I believe only because they were eating each others droppings. There has been NO studies on humans that confirm this nor do I believe it would ever be the case. Like Pb, I've been with my hubby for 20 years, 15 of those years I had Uc - no one else in my family has Uc or Cd.
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wildfire07
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   Posted 12/14/2007 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
no, it's not contagious. Hubby & I have ben together 14 years, I've only recently been correctly diagnosed, but trust me when I tell you that the "disease" has been there, ignored by me, then misdiagnosed for at least 5. Docs all confirmed that for me as well.
             
 
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   Posted 12/14/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been dx'd for 10 years but docs beleive I have had this most of my life. No one in my life (husband of 4 years, family, roomates, ect) has ever had a similar problem. I do not believe UC is in anyway contagious.
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   Posted 12/14/2007 10:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I would say that the jury is still out, here is one abstract, search pubmed for more info,
search inflammatory bowel spouse. Also I believe that on this site and the j-pouch site there are a few married couples with IBD. Old Mike

Inflammatory bowel disease in married couples: 10 cases in Nord Pas de Calais region of France and Liège county of Belgium.Comes MC, Gower-Rousseau C, Colombel JF, Belaïche J, Van Kruiningen HJ, Nuttens MC, Cortot A.
Registre des Maladies Inflammatoires du Tube Digestif du Nord Ouest de la France CHRU Lille.

Ten pairs of husband-wife couples are reported with inflammatory bowel disease who were seen in the same geographical area in Nord Pas de Calais region of France and in Liège county (Belgium). Among these 10 couples, four were concordant for Crohn's disease, two for ulcerative colitis, and four were discordant. In nine of 10 couples neither spouse had symptoms before marriage but inflammatory bowel disease subsequently developed in both. In one couple, one spouse had Crohn's disease before marriage and the other partner experienced symptoms afterwards. Eighteen children were born to eight of 10 couples. Five of them developed Crohn's disease but four belong to the same family. In all cases the affected children were born to parents who both developed Crohn's disease after they had married and were conceived at a time when parents did not yet have symptoms. It is proposed that this pattern of emergence of inflammatory bowel disease suggests a role for an infectious agent yet to be identified.

PMID: 7959244 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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   Posted 12/14/2007 10:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Personally no I do not believe it is contagious.
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   Posted 12/14/2007 10:57 AM (GMT -6)   
In Graves disease, which is another autoimmune disorder, there is a known increase in the disease in people who live in the same household as people who have the disease. As far as I know, they haven't determined whether there's a contagious element or perhaps it's a common environmental element.
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Beth75
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   Posted 12/14/2007 11:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I have not seen proof that it is contagious.  There are some out there who 'believe' it could be because there are couples that have UC and a test done on mice (how many tests have been done????), but I think that is just coincidence, just like two type 1 diabetics getting together or two people with cancer getting together. 
 
My mother had UC my father never had it (they got married over 35 years ago)
My friends father has UC her mom never got it (married over 40 years ago)
My husband does not have UC and we have been together over 8 years
 
I want to see proof not hypothesis.
 


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   Posted 12/14/2007 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WSN-4PTNRXP-C&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=74fe8ba3e1de9ee642846e588c3b07dc

www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2007-releases/press10042007.html

Communicable Ulcerative Colitis Induced by T-bet Deficiency in the Innate Immune System

Wendy S. Garrett1, 4, 9, Graham M. Lord1, 6, 7, 9, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author, Shivesh Punit1, Geanncarlo Lugo-Villarino1, 8, Sarkis K. Mazmanian5, Susumu Ito2, Jonathan N. Glickman3 and Laurie H. Glimcher1, 2, Corresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author
1Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA 02115, USA
2Department of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115, USA
3Department of Pathology, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115, USA
4Department of Medical Oncology, Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Boston, MA 02115, USA
5Division of Biology, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125, USA
6Department of Nephrology and Transplantation, King's College, London, SE1 9RT, SE1 9RT UK
7NIHR Biomedical Research Centre at Guy's & St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust and King's College London, SE1 9RT UK
Received 23 April 2007; revised 9 July 2007; accepted 13 August 2007. Published: October 4, 2007. Available online 4 October 2007.

Summary

Inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) has been attributed to overexuberant host immunity or the emergence of harmful intestinal flora. The transcription factor T-bet orchestrates inflammatory genetic programs in both adaptive and innate immunity. We describe a profound and unexpected function for T-bet in influencing the behavior of host inflammatory activity and commensal bacteria. T-bet deficiency in the innate immune system results in spontaneous and communicable ulcerative colitis in the absence of adaptive immunity and increased susceptibility to colitis in immunologically intact hosts. T-bet controls the response of the mucosal immune system to commensal bacteria by regulating TNF-α production in colonic dendritic cells, critical for colonic epithelial barrier maintenance. Loss of T-bet influences bacterial populations to become colitogenic, and this colitis is communicable to genetically intact hosts. These findings reveal a novel function for T-bet as a peacekeeper of host-commensal relationships and provide new perspectives on the pathophysiology of IBD.
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Post Edited (Harpo) : 12/14/2007 9:26:53 AM (GMT-7)


pb4
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   Posted 12/14/2007 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I like to be as open-minded as possible but I'm struggling with believing IBD could be communicable...I feel this research is reaching at straws because there is so much that needs to be learned about IBD, but one thing research has proven is that one must be genetically predisposed to getting IBD, and it's a matter of it being triggered for each individual...you know how many people are walking around right now oblivious to the fact that they are predisposed to getting IBD and don't even know IBD exists, lots, that's how many.

You know how many people who are predisposed to getting IBD will have lived their whole lives without it being triggered for them and die never experiancing their IBD, lots but how can scientists prove that unless they tested every person for IBD markers...but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, why eles would people be posting about themselves being the only ones in their entire family with IBD, because likely someone eles had it but passed on before it was triggered for them, that's more likely to happen than it is for IBD to be communicable in my opinion.

I'm betting there are thousands of married couples that both have IBD because they are predisposed to having it not because one partner has it and passes it on to the other.

Not to mention you cannot rule out the people here who have posted about their long marriages/relationships with their partners still not contracting IBD from us (as I'm one of those couples who's been with my hubby for 25 yrs and to this day, no IBD) and I know science is referring to T bet deficiency in the innate immune system results in spontaneous and communicable UC.... but I just find too many holes in their research, it just seems to coincidental to me for it to be communicable.

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Harpo
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   Posted 12/14/2007 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I hope its not communicable.. i just post this crap so people can be careful until we can say unequivocally
that it isn't going to hurt our friends and family..
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tjf
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   Posted 12/14/2007 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Harpo....since it appears you buy into some of this stuff..how would one then go about not giving UC to a family member? Just interested in what you are doing not to give it to say your spouse, child, neighbor, etc.

I think we all need to be prudent when posting on this topic. There is no reason to scare members when there is really nothing scientifically solid to back up these statements.
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DocGonzo
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   Posted 12/14/2007 7:35 PM (GMT -6)   
If it were contagious then it would be good news indeed for all of us since it would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that UC was caused by a pathogen, bacterial or viral, doesn't matter. It would mean that researchers would have to devote all their attention to isolating this pathogen and finding a way to kill it, instead of coming up with more dangerous "immunosupressive" drugs that do nothing but mask the symptoms at the expense of patients health in general...

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   Posted 12/14/2007 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Harpo - Are you suggesting that we shouldn't come in contact with anyone then until we know for sure if it's contagious?
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   Posted 12/15/2007 12:50 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't believe it is contagious. But the only guarantees are death and taxes in life so who knows. Personally, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Harpo
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   Posted 12/19/2007 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Me personally..

I wash my hands before helping my children brush their teeth, or cook meals, or anything else that is typically common sense..

I try and get my kids to use their bathroom, not the one in my bedroom that i use.. I also store their toothbrushes in their bathroom.

I never have any type of sex oral or whatever if I have had a BM and not showered since.

I just exercise caution... Im not saying I live in a bubble.. Lessen exposure.
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