I thought raw cabbage juice was supposed to help?

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lanyzo
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   Posted 2/22/2010 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been suffering from GERD for a few years now and while at times it lessens, other times is quite bad. I have heartburns and throat burns, and balls in my throat...you know the symptoms. I keep it in check (or not) with Nexium and Ompranit (Omeprazone) but it's quite bad actually. Plus I have halitosis due to this so I am really self-conscious particularly that hubby can feel it when I have it (mostly in the night).

I've read all over the place on the internet that raw cabbage juice was supposed to help with GERD, ulcers and generally heart burn so as I bought myself a juicer today, I bought also a cabbage and gave it a try. First I made myself a glass of other various mixes (carrots, celery and parsley) and that was quite yiummy. But then I made a mix of cabbage, a bit of ginger root and some parsley. As soon as I started drinking this, my back throat started to hurt like crazy. I said to myself it must be the ginger. So after a few hours I made a pure cabbage juice, and again, after a few sips even now I have so strong pain in the back of my throat like when I have the worst of GERD attacks. I thought cabbage juice was supposed to help with GERD? I tried to find any page on the net confirming what happened to me, but all pages and sites out there swear by cabbage juice as been the miracle cure for GERD and ulcers.

Did anyone who tried it had the same symptoms? I can't even drink this one glass, I'll stick with carrot and celery from now... And I was having so high hopes for this one sad

Marburg
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   Posted 2/22/2010 1:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about others but my doctor put cabbage on the no-no list. He said the acid content of cabbage can make GERD worse.

lanyzo
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   Posted 2/22/2010 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh gawd...just check all the websites on the net talking about cabbage juice like the miracle cure for GERD. I really hate that. I'm throwing away the half full glass of juice, I just can't drink it...

couchtater
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   Posted 2/22/2010 2:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Careful of what you hear on the net. Some things are are not truely researched and can do more harm than good.
Your GERD sounds very severe. You need to see a GI about this. Don't be frighten of the surgery. I had the Hill procedure done laproscopy and I'm two months post-op. I have no problems with swallowing or burping. I don't know about throwing up as it has not presented itself yet.

Joy

my7pinecones
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   Posted 3/10/2010 4:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I have no difficulty eating cabbage, raw or cooked. Not tried it juiced...seems so concentrated unless mixed with other juiced items. I use ginger, especially at the onset of even a sense of a sore throat. I cut a peeled slice (about 1/2 inch) and suck/gently chew it for several hours. (just one gentle bite down on it and then suck the juice, then do it again over a long time). Works wonders!

Good luck and research your research!! And even when something is legitimate data...it doesn't determine your specific case or how your body will respond; however, accurate data/research does give valuable information that can be very useful. For example, many on this forum discuss the difficulty of eating tomatoes. Although I have had 3 and approaching a 4th esophageal surgery and have had a lot of "problems", tomatoes, fortunately, are not on the list.

I hope you find the relief so need! I agree with Joy...explore the possible benefits surgery might provide you. I am so grateful for the relief and improved quality of life the surgeries have provided me over many years.

keith777
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   Posted 7/20/2010 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ianyzo, I hope you get this - I believe from all the reading and studying I've done that the raw cabbage juice (taken immediately after it has been made - at least within one minute) will indeed help your condition - check these facts out "Garnett Cheney, M.D. demonstrated in the 1950s that fresh, raw cabbage juice could significantly increase the rate of healing in patients with gastrointestinal ulceration, In 1952, he had 100 peptic ulcer patients drink 4 glasses of fresh, raw cabbage juice daily. 81% of the patients were symptom-free within one week, and over two thirds were better within four days Dr. Cheney found that he could not bring on the same results when the cabbage juice was not fresh, and that heated cabbage juice was completely ineffective.] Hence, it was understood that an unknown, heat-sensitive substance was responsible for the results." reference : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Methylmethionine
 
If you have the ability at all to get this one book, please get it and read it for your condition - it could really impact your quality of living - it is called "Eating Alive - Prevention Through Good Digestion" by Dr. Jon Matsen. It explains how our digestive system and stomachs work in one of the most clear, simple and brilliant ways (using plenty of illustrations) - once you understand how it all works and how small changes in what you eat can greatly impact your life, it's a big motivator to make those simple changes. I wish you all the best as you endeavor to get healthier!

coreysmom
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   Posted 7/21/2010 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
It's been a few months since the OP posted, but I thought I'd just add that perhaps drinking the raw cabbage juice by itself is not good to start with? I don't have much experience with this, admittedly, but I do know that raw juices are usually mixed with other juices and perhaps one could start with a small amount of cabbage juice added to the carrot and celery juice, and then increase the cabbage juice on a daily basis?
 
And since everyone seems to be different as to what they can and can't handle, food-wise, perhaps not everyone does well with the cabbage. I follow a system called "Metabolic Typing" which reveals that there are different "types" metabolically and what is good for one person might be near poison for another, and this includes vegetables. Dr. Mercola (mercola.com) has a system based on Metabolic Typing called "Nutritional Typing" and there's a whole section on juicing, which can be used liberally by the "carb type" but not so much by the "protein type." And cabbage often doesn't agree with protein types, of which I am one. Anyway, might be worth checking out. Perhaps studying this material could be helpful in determining a diet that would help one's digestion.

Patrick V
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   Posted 8/22/2013 2:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I know this topic has been dormant, but since it is ranked in the top three in Google for "cabbage juice cures gerd", I thought I should add my findings from last night (I find it more important that the topic be useful for googlers than annoying to forum trolls, IMO).

I've had GERD so badly for the past year that even a sip of coffee triggers it. Tums that I take in the night end up leaving chalk in the back my throat when I wake up. I choke on the clear phlegm balls caused by acid entering the esophagus. I have an inhalator. I was prescribed the Prilosec generic. I get short of breath and often can't breath easier unless I do one of those really deep burps.

Haven't really enjoyed food at all for a year -- year and half? Something like that.

My results from the first 'cabbage juice' trial was this. I didn't use a lot of cabbage juice. And I didn't use a lot of ginger (because it can burn the throat). I used mostly carrot and pear for the main amount, then just a bit of cabbage and ginger.

The results were astounding but not complete. I was able to enjoy a meal afterward, and even have coffee with breakfast. All I'm saying is, don't weed it out entirely as a solution because you are drinking it straight.

The *why* of cabbage juice for GERD is this: It's not because it soothes your throat. It's because it kills the h. pylori bacteria if placed in the same test tube. The h. pylori is the commonly known culprit for ulcers. Many people are looking at h. pylori for the cause of GERD as well. Frankly, after two juicings I'm believing them.

I've tried yogurt. I've munched in ginger. But the results have been negligible.

This juice combination is the best that has worked for me. 2 parts carrot, 1.5 part pear, 1 part cabbage .5 (or less, ginger). And it doesn't taste terrible.

That combo is doing me right. My stomach is settled and I don't feel like I'm going to choke after I eat. So, discredit it all you like, but the results I am seeing personally are nothing short of miraculous.

Check out these two links. They are what I used to find the 'cabbage juice cure'. And, admittedly it's only been less than 24 hours, but I've been having a great time of it so far.

H. Pylori connection to GERD:
http://chriskresser.com/more-evidence-to-support-the-theory-that-gerd-is-caused-by-bacterial-overgrowth

Anti-bacteria foods list:
http://www.rbcsgroup.com/OT/July-2004/Infection.htm

StarshineGirl
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   Posted 10/10/2013 7:53 AM (GMT -6)   
hello.... I just want to add that I have tried cabbage with WONDERFUL results. It is actually amazing! I DID NOT add ANY Ginger in mine.
I personally just made my cabbage juice full strength and drink a full glass of 8oz. to 16oz. each time I drink it.
I had SUPER severe Heart burn, GERD... Acid Reflux. .. and am so thankful that it DOES WORK and fabulously so. I started drinking a whole 16oz. of full strength cabbage juice .... drinking it at night just before going to sleep and let it work all night long in my system and "MAN" what a relief. And if you keep it up consistently drinking it everyday both morning and evening (plus 1 or 2 times in the middle of the day IF YOU CAN) It will be one of the MOST BLESSED HEALING to your whole stomach, esophagus, intestinal and colon tract for thefor problem of GERD that you could ever imagine. Just don't be wimpy with drinking it. ... BE STRONG and say "I am going to do this for myself and I am going to stick with it and I AM GOING TO DRINK IT WITHOUT letting the taste bother me and dominate me & my decision to do this for myself and my healing" . Cause this ulcer remedy REALLY TRULY WORKS WONDERS if you will JUST DO IT and STICK WITH IT. And. .... it doesn't take very long to work. It's amazing! It started helping ME .....IMMEDIATELY! So SO so glad I learned of this absolutely BLESSED remedy! AND. ..I have to give all PRAISE TO GOD so helped me learn of this naturally healing remedy that He has provided for this stomach illness of mankind! JUST DO IT. ....You'll be SO SO glad you did. And in the mean while. ..eat and drink correctly by not putting things in your stomach that irritates the lining and problem as well. .. else you are working against your goal. Thanks. .. God Bless.

StarshineGirl
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   Posted 10/10/2013 8:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Pardon me for SOME miswording or such above for I was typing everything from my phone and it's kind hard sometimes to get it all right. Phone keypad ... You know how it is LOL.... Thanks. StarShine Girl.

Freshfallensnow2002
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   Posted 1/3/2014 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so glad to find some more recent posts about this.

When I first tried the raw cabbage juice, it took my symptoms all away. I was feeling so good, as a matter of fact, I quit drinking the cabbage juice and lowered the head of my bed back down. Big mistake! Also I returned to drinking coffee (1 cup per day) and eating tomatoes and a few spicier foods. Ended up with Gerd big time again.

When I did the cabbage juice the first time, I cut out coffee, tomatoes, spicy food, and anything else that I had found to aggravate the condition.

I am back on the cabbage juice, but finding it harder to keep up with this time. In my estimation, it doesn't give instant results. It can take several days, but it works.

Apparently you can get powdered cabbage juice and put it in capsules and take it that way if it's too hard to drink the raw juice. I think that's my next step, since I'm not being very consistent this go round. Has anyone tried that? I am willing to go to the trouble of filling my own capsules because I have had such good results with the cabbage juice.

I also drink carrot and parsley juice at the same time I drink the cabbage juice. Organic cabbage makes better tasting juice, and could make the difference whether you are able to drink it or not!

Freshfallensnow2002
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   Posted 1/3/2014 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
The raw cabbage juice remedy is not just something you "hear about on the internet'" it comes from a bonafide medical study done in the middle of the 20th century. Here is a link:


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1643665/

4Whippets
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   Posted 2/22/2014 12:28 PM (GMT -6)   
How do you make cabbage juice? I don't have a juicer so I was wondering if you can make it in a blender and if so how?
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