Chronic Belching!!! Please Help

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Faith224
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   Posted 12/10/2011 10:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Guys,

I have a chronic belching problem. I literally belch after meal, after drinking even plain water, on an empty stomach, and when I wake up first thing in the morning. I know belching is associated with reflux, but the amount I am belching suggests there is more going on than just reflux.

Does anyone have any idea what could cause this? It's causing me alot of distress and feel like I will never be able to solve this problem. Even my gastro cannot tell me what is causing this..well then who can?

Thanks for listening

Nickles
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   Posted 12/11/2011 1:22 AM (GMT -7)   
Parasites or h pylori or other bacterial if it is comin from the lower part of your intestines and lower stomach it could be this. I have similar symptoms as you.

sunbeam48
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   Posted 12/11/2011 6:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Like you, I used to belch from plain water.  I don't get heartburn.  Nexium has helped me more than Prilosec, and I have made many lifestyle changes, including the Kouffman diet.  Mostly I only belch now if I eat something high fat or very acidic.

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/11/2011 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Make sure you've been tested for Helicobacter - and not tested whilst on ppis, which can give false negative results.

I belched and burped a lot when I first started treatment - it did gradually settle. Sadly my two small sons took it as an open contest . . . Which is ongoing .....

MMM
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Faith224
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   Posted 12/11/2011 2:36 PM (GMT -7)   
The interesting thing is that I was given a breath test for H. Pylori which came back positive. However, my endoscopy showed that I didn't have it. Is it possible the breath test was possible for other bacteria? I have been following the dropping acid for a while, and it made no difference in my belching. Even though I have LPR, I am starting to think that my belching isn't related to reflux because it happens all the time even on an empty stomach. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't belch repeatedly after water, meals, on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning, or in between. Is there anything else that I could be tested for?


Thanks
Feel Good,

-Faith

likehome
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   Posted 12/11/2011 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I would request a Hida Scan to check the function of your gallbladder. I was belching all the time and had reflux so I went to see my GI doctor. He ordered an ultrasound that showed no gallstones. He also ordered a Hida Scan. It showed that my gallbladder was hardly functioning (9% ejection fraction). I had my gallbladder out just 1 week ago. I already feel better.

Faith224
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   Posted 12/11/2011 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow, so you've seen a decrease in your belching? My mother and sister both have gallbladder disease so I wouldn't be surprised if the functioning is impaired. Did you have any symptoms directly related to the gallbladder? Also, has removing your gallbladder helped your reflux too?
Feel Good,

-Faith

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/11/2011 5:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Giardia is another infective organism you could ask to be tested for. Also coeliac disease should have been ruled out when you had your endoscopy. If your helicobacter test was by biopsy then it should be accurate, but you could always ask for the breath test to be repeated. Why were you not treated for it after the positive breath test?

And gall bladder trouble is worth ruling out to, good thought.

MMM
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belljar1995
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   Posted 12/11/2011 6:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
I don't know what state my gallbladder is in...but I do know that I also have a burping and hiccuping problem--actually sort of silent ones, if you know what I mean. I was told that this is very common in GERD/LRP. My worst burping and hiccuping occurs first thing in the morning when I get up and after I eat. It makes no sense... Perhaps this is just another part of your specific reflux?

Cindy123
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   Posted 12/12/2011 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, I have a cousin that just had the nissen wrap (full) two weeks ago and she is getting exessive burping....is this normal after a nissen wrap.  It's so bad that she was suppose to go back to work this week but decided to give it another week to see if it will subside....any advice would be very appreciated.
 
Thanks.
 
Cindy

dencha
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   Posted 12/12/2011 10:26 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cindy turn ,
It's nothing I experienced, and is actually the opposite of your problem, and the problem most experience.  At least she won't get bloating!  Has she called her surgeon's office to see what they say. 
 
I have read that forcing burps can be possibly damaging to a wrap, and that healing patients should avoid burping on purpose.  I only read that on one surgeon's post-Nissen recommendation, but it's worth checking in to.
 
Obviously her stomach has been through a lot and producing gas is a byproduct.  Is she avoiding all the gas-producing things like straws, chewing with her mouth open, talking while eating, gassy foods?
 
I'd definitely recommend she check with her surgeon regarding the issue.  I haven't really heard of excessive burping...maybe someone else here has.  As I said, at least she doesn't have the dreaded bloating!
 
Hope you're having a good day!
Cheers!
Denise

Faith224
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   Posted 12/12/2011 12:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Mud,

I was given a prescription of antibiotics after testing positive for H. Pylori but decided to hold off on taking them after reading about the havoc they could wreck on the digestive system. I'm still trying to understand why my breath test was positive and my endoscopy was negative, even my gastro was surprised by this.

All I know is that I need to find something to stop this belching!
Feel Good,

-Faith

Faith224
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   Posted 12/12/2011 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Cindy,

For some reason I think more than just reflux is going on with me. There are alot of people I know who have GERD/LPR who don't burp at all, yet I cannot stop ever. Although I know everyone is different, I'm confused what connection non-stop belching would have to LPR, especially because it occurs regardless of my diet, whether I ate or not, and even after plain water. It's so very frustrating =(
Feel Good,

-Faith

dencha
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   Posted 12/12/2011 1:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Faith,
It seems that if you tested positive for H-Pylori, you have no choice but to take the antibiotic.  Believe me, I understand your hesitancy.  I have terrible gastritis that strikes after most antibiotics.  Still, you might find improvement if you can clear that up.  From what I understand, many problems aren't visible during endoscopic inspection, but are only discovered via biopsy and other tests.
I understand your frustration.
I hope things improve soon!
Denise

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/12/2011 2:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Faith,

I'm sure Denise is right - wise advice. Sounds like there's a reasonable chance you have Helicobacter, and that's one cause of GERD which is easily treatable, so I personally wouldn't hesitate. I so wished I had Helicobacter - I was majorly disappointed when all my tests were negative!! The second test may have been skewed by taking proton pump inhibitors. I would go back to your GP/PCP and confess to not having taken the antibiotics and say you would like to do it now, to rule out Helicobacter being the main contributing factor to your symptoms - and burping is such a classic Helicobacter symptom!

I've tolerated some heavy duty antibiotics for my chest in the past, with very little effect on my stomach - and don't forget you get to have double the ppi dose during the Helicobacter treatment. You could stock up on a good quality probiotic and an anti-thrush tablet (sorry........ but you're likely to need it!) to start straight after.

That's what I'd do anyway - I'd have been celebrating if I'd had a positive Helicobacter test - way better than "it's all normal, we don't know what's wrong with you!!"

Let us know how you do.

MMM
New stuff: GERD. Interstitial Cystitis
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies, eczema, asthma

Faith224
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   Posted 12/12/2011 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Denise,

The thing is I don' t think I have H. Pylori because the breath test was positive, but the biopsies taken during the endo were negative and the gastro told me he took 9 and couldn't understand why I kept coming up negative.
Feel Good,

-Faith

Faith224
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   Posted 12/12/2011 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Mud,

I did tell my gastro I never took the antibiotics, he said that's a good thing because the biopsies were negative and I had the breath test a few months prior.

Even if I don't have H. Pylori, I wonder if the antibiotics would the belching anyway? Maybe I have some other kind of bacteria?
Feel Good,

-Faith

Cindy123
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   Posted 12/12/2011 2:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Faith, you can take probiotics to get your gut flora back once the antibiotics do their job.  I usually double up on the probiotics when I take anticbiotics.  I take the probiotics twice a day...that will help significantly with the gas....take care.
 
You are a wealth of information.
 
Thank you.
 
Denise, hope you are having a great day too.

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/12/2011 4:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Faith, I see what you are saying. So did they say the breath test was a false positive then basically?

You could try probiotics anyway, some people find them helpful. Also, I know the general advice says to avoid peppermint, but I find sucking a mint very helpful myself. I haven't been brave enough to try peppermint oil capsules . . . but I do wonder if it would help me.

As I say, my burping did calm down after a couple of months on ppis. I hope you find something to relieve this particular symptom.

MMM
New stuff: GERD. Interstitial Cystitis
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies, eczema, asthma

Faith224
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   Posted 12/12/2011 7:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Mud. I believe it was a false positive, I have been on PPI's for 6 months which helped resolve most of my LPR-related symptoms, but not the belching which is why I don't think it's happening bc of my reflux. I also have sinus issues which didn't resolve with PPI's...=(
Feel Good,

-Faith

Nickles
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   Posted 12/13/2011 11:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey faith,

How do you feel when you wake up?

Meaning your mouth and throat?

I know you have this belching all the time but how do you wake up in the mornings?
Do you had a bitter taste?
No taste?
Normal?
Acid taste?

Just curious to know.
Cause I have ongoing belching too.

Faith224
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   Posted 12/13/2011 11:35 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Nickles,

Occasionally I feel a light burning near my uvula but nowhere else in my throat. If I take a sip of water or swallow some saliva, it immediately stops, other times I feel absolutely perfect. How about you?
Feel Good,

-Faith

Nickles
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   Posted 12/13/2011 1:23 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a bitter taste when I wake up. And I also sore throat in the morning and days with belching the whole day.

james1858
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   Posted 2/12/2012 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Faith,
I have what you have and have had it now non-stop for 2 years. I've had every test imaginable and they all come back "normal" Like you it doesn't matter what I eat or if I even eat at all. It just starts on its own. In the morning I will just burp like I am expelling air from the night before. Later on it will start with spasms (sort of like hiccuping) and then constant belching that can go on for hours. Sometimes by forcing myself to gag or vomit will stop it temporarily. Sometimes it will stop after I go through this horrible wheezing spell followed by repeated sneezes. I see a very respected GI doc here in San Diego who said "I've seen this before, don't know what it is, and don't know how to fix it" If you find a "fix" for this please let me know.

Faith224
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   Posted 2/12/2012 5:59 PM (GMT -7)   
James1858,

Sorry to hear that you suffer with this problem too. I have LPR reflux and I am sure that at least part of my belching is related to this problem. However, I don't experience the wheezing you describe but GI issues could definitely cause this. Have you been checked for H. Pylori or LPR?
Feel Good,

-Faith
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