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Cylon101
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   Posted 3/30/2012 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello
 
I've seen a few posts on the boards about taking active Manuka Honey and the benefits it can have.
 
I have picked up some active UMF 16+ and will start it daily , but wondering if anyone has noticed any improvements with symptoms from it, as it is rather expensive honey.
 
 

Adam77
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   Posted 3/30/2012 12:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Depends on your situation. I have GERD symptoms. Manuka honey did help me, but not a lot. Manuka honey alone will not alleviate your GERD symptoms.

Cylon101
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   Posted 3/30/2012 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Adam
 
I'm on a PPI and also made diet changes, so I'm hoping the honey will help out in some way. Thanks
 

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 3/30/2012 4:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there,

I tried Manuka but I didn't notice any change in my GERD or gastritis symptoms. It's supposed to be good for you generally so I keep meaning to finish the second pot!

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

Nickles
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   Posted 4/1/2012 1:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Can anyone specify the Manuka they have used?

Brand and UMF? And how did you take it?

Please.

Thanks.

Adam77
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   Posted 4/1/2012 6:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I am using Bio Active 20+ Manuka Honey. I bought it at wholefoods store. Amazon also carries it. I take it after dinner. I used to take it in the morning before eating anything else with ginger and banana for my gastritis.

Cylon101
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   Posted 4/1/2012 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I am using Wedderspoon Active 16+. I take it 30 minutes before meals with a cracker or on a piece of banana

Nickles
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   Posted 4/1/2012 11:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Is it helping you Cylon? How long have you taken it?

I just bought the same one

Cylon101
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   Posted 4/2/2012 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
@Nickles
 
I've only been taking it for a few days, so no noticeable changes yet.  Then again, Im not certain what changes it might make.  All I know so far is that I have a small hiatal hernia with slight reflux, so I am not sure if that is the full reason for my symptoms, or if the honey will have much use
 
But figured I'd try anything.

bcfromfl
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   Posted 4/2/2012 11:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I would question anything you've read about Manuka and claimed benefits for GERD. Manuka does have impressive anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. I've taken it for years, an eighth-teaspoon at a time, as a "lozenge". It will prevent 90% of plaque from growing on teeth, keep throat infections at bay, and "perhaps" have some impact on pylori numbers in the stomach.

If your GERD is exacerbated by gastritis or infection in the stomach, then it's possible, I suppose, for Manuka to somewhat improve symptoms. But you can't candy-coat GERD. If you've been diagnosed with this condition, it's occurring because of a malfunction with the LES.

Permit me to get on my soap box for a moment, as I have read all the homeopathic remedies for GERD on the internet. GERD is a progressive condition, that can take several years to fully express symptoms. As the condition begins, it may come and go, and respond well to certain remedies. Someone who has experienced reflux for the first few times, and how awful it is, will be overjoyed when the symptoms go away. This could be due to an herbal concoction, or, more likely, the condition has improved on its own. The human brain being what it is, is sure that the sufferer was successful in "beating" it in a clever manner without seeing a doctor.

There are a handful of herbal remedies that will help soothe a scorched throat, or calm a stomach. But stop the reflux, no.

Does Manuka have health benefits? If you are troubled by what I described above, then yes. Will it stop/moderate GERD? No.

-Bruce

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 4/2/2012 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
It's good to have you back Bruce.

I wouldn't say GERD is necessarily progressive, there are people out there who have had isolated run-ins with GERD, lasting quite a long time, who have later become symptom and medication free. Those people tend not to need this forum of course. I had a 3 year remission between episodes - with zero symptoms in between. I believe it "recurred" rather than "progressed". Telling everyone this is a progressive disease is a bit harsh I think. Even though mine came back, it has remained pretty much the same for 2 years now. The clinical studies indicate it tends to stay the same/stable in most people.

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v105/n2/abs/bjc2011214a.html
This study (quoted in my thread for New Members Concerned about Barretts) illustrates the point.

It's also worth remembering the most common cause of death for people with Barretts is not cancer - it's heart disease!

I think some people have success with natural remedies because they may have had undiagnosed Helicobacter - something manuka honey might be able to influence. The brand I tried was Nelson's 15+ - and if there's any chance of it doing my teeth good I may get another pot!!

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

bcfromfl
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   Posted 4/2/2012 2:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for correcting me, MMM. I neglected to say, after the point I made about GERD being progressive, is that the progression isn't the same for everyone. It "progresses" to the point it will stop progressing, is probably the best way to put it.

The point I was trying to make, however, is that the internet is rife with "cures", written by folks who are probably early in the condition. No one ever retracts these statements of supposed healing when they don't prove to be so, either because they are lazy, are ashamed to admit they were mistaken, or have something to sell. I'm reminded of someone here on this board who claimed that garlic healed their GERD. OK, who am I to refute their change in symptoms, but, on the flip side, there needs to be a healthy dose of skepticism with all these claims...usually which is nonexistent because folks want to maintain hope of something that the medical community has overlooked. Tops on the list, is whether folks making claims have even been officially diagnosed with GERD, or are just suffering from occasional heartburn or stomach ache. This makes a big difference whether or not an herbal remedy may be able to provide some relief.

I wish that I had come across good, solid, realistic information years ago...leading up to my surgery last year. Instead, I wasted time searching for nonexistent cures, while I got worse and worse. I wish I had the money back I spent on herbal remedies, and the false hopes. I'm glad they work for some, but I question their long-term value.

As far as Manuka brands goes, I have found that Wedderspoon has the most consistent quality-control. The other brands I have tried vary from batch to batch, which makes me wonder how much I can trust the contents.

-Bruce

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 4/2/2012 3:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi again Bruce,

I do understand your point - each person's GERD 'evolves' and the point at which things level off varies.

The first time I had GERD it went away with just licorice - this time the licorice seems to help but I agree, I certainly can't repeat the trick of pulling off another remission with it.

I'm personally happy to keep experimenting with natural remedies, especially because I've had other health problems improve with them over my life time. For other problems natural remedies seemed to either help or do no harm. With GERD, certainly for me, lots of things make it worse: apple cider vinegar, licorice tea, green tea, vitamins - all akin to swallowing fire in my case! Honey at least feels nice even if it doesn't help!!

I don't mind experimenting because I'm not looking for a miracle cure, just adjuvant treatments that may make things a bit more liveable.

I'm not sure if there's a 'sticky' about natural remedies - because you're right about the risk of a person delaying seeking professional help. The standard advice should be to get a clear diagnosis first and to follow through on all the tests and medical treatments until one reaches a plateau, from which you can, from experience, tell if you're headed for trouble!

It's good to see you around again Bruce.

MMM
New stuff: GERD, Recurrent cystitis/Overactive bladder
Lifelong stuff: Food allergies/intolerance, eczema, asthma

Cylon101
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   Posted 4/9/2012 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello

I've tried the Manuka (16+ Active) for a week, and while it is quite tasty, I have not noticed any help from it, not sure what I was really hoping for.

I will continue to use it until my jar is done, and perhaps it is healthy for my stomach and intestinal flora, but it's too costly for me to keep buying if it isn't really going to help with my throat issues.

 

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 4/9/2012 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   
In conjunction with a good diet, it has helped soothe my stomach. It has not prevented reflux but it has perhaps healed any damage from it for me.

DOGGBONES
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   Posted 9/5/2012 6:51 AM (GMT -6)   
It's true manuka honey will not "cure" gerd, however it is a proven healer and I feel it will aid in healing any damage done to your throat or stomach. After all most gerd is due to a poor LES, so "if" you can heal the LES you will be able to "cure" the gerd. Any form of healing from natural healers will take a long time of daily use, one can not expect to heal serious damage just after taking anything for a short period of time.
 
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