Hot Drinks and Teas for Acid Reflux Relief

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lady1741
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   Posted 12/8/2012 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Good morning!
 
New to this forum, thank you to everyone for their insight and knowledge.  I hope we'll have a better day today!  I cannot take PPI's (acid rebound effect on me - BAD).  I'm currently on low acid diet, starting phase 2, zantac 150 2xday, Carafate before meals (if I'm having pain), DGL after meals, if needed, antispasmodic, and mylanta liquid if needed.   I am looking for safe "hot" drinks that will help soothe irritation in esophagus, and also make me happy again - :o)  I sooooooooo miss my 2 cups of coffee a day and my herbal teas that I drank thoughout the day.
 
I've heard marshmallow, chammomile (boring), roobis and slipper elm are good choices as long as there are no other ingredients that would irritate the gut.  I understand I need caffeine free, but when looking around, so many teas have a blend of other possible irritants, i.,e. peppermint and spearmint, citrus, etc.  So, are there any specific brands/mfgs anyone has tried and may suggest?  Drinking hot water plain makes me sad :o( and drinking hot water with Manuka honey (although somewhat beneficial) is putting too much sugar in my body.  I don't do well with sugar.
 
HELP, PLEASE ----  i'M REACHING FOR THE COFFEE POT!!!!
 
P.S.  Any one try any low acid, decaffeinated coffees, i.e., Healthwise, PurRoast, Hevla?  I understand I can't overboard with the coffee, but I would like to introduce a cup in the morning back into my diet starting next week.  GI doc said it would be okay, but I need to see how I feel.
 
Thank you and Bless you all with inner peace and calm.  Coffee was my peace and now I'm in chaos. 
 

sunbeam48
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   Posted 12/8/2012 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
I like Yogi Egyptian Licorice, and Tazo green ginger. The ginger tea does have a little caffeine, not much I think. It doesn't bother me though even small amounts of coffee do. I also take Zantec, no ppi. Licorice tea tastes naturally sweet without sugar.

WJF
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   Posted 12/9/2012 12:43 AM (GMT -6)   
I drink Pu-erh tea. The special property of this tea is that it underwent a process of post-fermentation which turned it alkaline. Most green teas are acidic. Pu-erh tea has low caffeine leve and a distinct black color.

lady1741
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   Posted 12/9/2012 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your suggestions!
 

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/9/2012 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I've never found a tea I can tolerate. Mostly I drink hot water (not boiling hot) and I am able to tolerate (whilst on ppis) one coffee (weak) with breakfast. Every kind of tea causes a lot of backlash symptom wise, and the licorice tea was terrible too!

You say you cannot take ppis because of rebound - do you get good symptom relief if you take it continuously?

MMM

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   Posted 12/9/2012 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
 
Hi there ! I found this article that I thought you might find interesting.  I am not a hot tea person but do like cold green tea especially in the summer.  Good luck.
 
http://www.hpcisp.com/~kls/Tea_Reflux.html
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mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/9/2012 4:57 PM (GMT -6)   
PS: Forgot to ask if you have tried hot chocolate? Despite the theory that chocolate is a trigger, home made hot chocolate with soya milk (I'm allergic to cow's milk) is actually soothing for me - I make it about half water, half soya milk, teaspoon of sugar and teaspoon of cocoa powder.

MMM
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sunbeam48
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   Posted 12/9/2012 6:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for starting this thread. I found a product called Throat Coat with rave reviews. It is available as tea or lozenge. These ingredients, including marshmallow root and slippery elm, could soothe both throats and irritated stomachs. I need that!

Post Edited (sunbeam48) : 12/11/2012 5:11:02 PM (GMT-7)


lady1741
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   Posted 12/9/2012 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   
MMM,
 
 
Thanks for the suggestions.  Funny, felt pretty good last few days (3 weeks off dexilant tmrw), and today I am miserable with burning throat and upper left ab discomfort.  I just don't understand any of this.  Had my EGD 10/2/12 because of intermittent ab discomfort for several months.  I didn't even know what gerd or reflux was, let alone felt like.  Scope showed inflamed esophagus in the antrum.  I rarely had indigestion, let alone any type of burning or heartburn pain in chest.  I didn't get reflux symptoms until after I was put on PPI's day after scope.  Prilosec 20 mg 2xday for 4 weeks, made ab pain worse, then dexilant for almost 3 weeks, until I got sooooooooooo sick, I took myself off.
 
New GI doc will rescope me in February 2013, because the path was too vague.  He has me on levsin and Zantac 150 2 x day, because of the acid rebound, and Carafate on days that I need it.  (Like today :o( --)  I don't know what to do.  I am following the Dr. Koufman diet religiously and I am still having acid rebound.  I just pray I'm not doing more damage because now I "feel the burn".  I'm not sure what they will do for me.  I hope and pray something.  I've lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks.  I'm not a big girl.   I feel so hungry and am living on oatmeal, rice, gluten free grains, water and the rest.
 
I do think I'm going to ask for some other tests before the scope.  No one has done anything else on me except the EGD.  May I ask how long you have had reflux?  Is this something that has "flare ups" and then can calm down for any length of time. Dear, God, I hope so.  This is consuming my life.
 
I used to drink Hot Almond Milk Chocolate, unsweetened, but I am afraid to try it again that it may cause a flare up.  I am now drinking Hot Water with a bit of Manuka honey.  I'm sick of it  mad   

Sweet Potatoe
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   Posted 12/10/2012 1:29 AM (GMT -6)   
How about trying Hot Apple juice or cider for a hot drink? Also Aloe Vera juice 2 ounces (small juice glass ) in morning and 2 ounces at night might help. When I was at my worst Acid reflux symptoms burning in my esophagus I lived on apple sauce and yogurt. I gave up coffee and just drank hot water with a tsp of honey in it. It was not till I added Aloe Vera Juice that my life change. I felt better and could start eating normal foods again. After my recent TIF Hiatal hernia surgery I kept on drinking Aloe Vera juice which has helped me heal quickly with less pain. Hope you feel good soon.
Anne smilewinkgrin

mudmagnetmum
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   Posted 12/10/2012 5:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Ooh, honey in the hot water, will try that one! Thanks
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lady1741
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   Posted 12/10/2012 7:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Dear Sweet Potatoe:
 
You are very kind with the drinking suggestions.  I have switched over to hot water with honey. I guess I'm really m issing my caffeine.  I have been using the Aloe Juice for two weeks now.  I use the "George's" brand which sometimes I wonder is real or not.  It is like drinking distilled water. No flavor, no texture, no nothing!  :o)  I have tried some aloes in the past and they were HORRIBLE, but you knew you were drinking aloe because of that - lol --  May I ask what brand of Aloe you use?  about the apple cider.....how do you know which apples it is made from.  My doc told me to only eat fuji apples, but even that is bothering me now.  What I don't understand is why all these foods that I used to eat that didn't bother me, before ppi use, are now causing me bad, bad reflux??  Oh well, today's a new day.  I'll hope for a good one for all of us. 
 
Bless you and thanks for the response.
 
Lady
 

ericapeace2000
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   Posted 12/10/2012 2:12 PM (GMT -6)   
chamomille is helpful for me
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sunbeam48
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   Posted 12/10/2012 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Lady, what is so frustrating is that we are all so different. What works well for one person makes another person's symptoms worse. One explanation is that some people seem to have too little acid, while others have too much. I believe I really have too much acid because it has burned my throat enough to cause Barrett's. Apple cider is slightly acidic, so is yogurt. I eat yogurt daily, but with cereal and milk to reduce the acidity. Fuji apples I believe are less acidic. Most aloe juice sold has acidic preservatives.

lady1741
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   Posted 12/10/2012 8:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Sunbeam,
 
I know how frustrating it is, because I am so confused.  Somethings work great for others, and not so for the rest.  I don't know what I had before the EDG.  If I had too much acid or too little.  What I do know is that I can't take the PPIs because they gave me acid rebound.  It's only been a few weeks off of them, so I'm giving the Zantac 2xday and carafate, and low acid diet the "college try."  Yesterday was horrible, today not so bad.  This is making me crazy.  No burning or pain today for me.  I mentioned in another post about the Aloe Vera I am taking --  "George's Active Aloe" - tastes literally like water.  No preservatives or additives.  They carry it at Vitaminn Shoppe and Whole Foods.  If you are interested you may want to google it for more info.  I've only been taking it faithfully for a week now, so the jury is still out on whether or not it's helping me.  I know it's not hurting.
 
Did they find the Barret's on your initial scope?  What were your symptoms?  My initial scope showed that there is inflammation with some very few cell changes in lower esophagus, MAYBE.  The path was somewhat vague in that it wasn't definitive, so my new GI will scope me again in Spring to confirm or disspell.  I'm so upset about all of this.    Im 52, healthy eater, avid exerciser, (until recently), nonsmoker, gluten free, glass of red wine maybe 2x a month. 
 
Today I was able to tolerate quite well Tulsi Holy Basil Roobis tea -- no caffeine.  It had a hint of vanilla and wasn't bad.  It still wasn't coffee, but at least it was better than just hot water.  The manuka honey made it yummy - :o)
 
Thanks for your response. I hope you are feeling well tonite.  I hope we all have a quiet evening.
 
Regards,
 
Lady
 

steppingstone
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   Posted 12/11/2012 2:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I can totally understand about giving up coffee. I used to drink huge amounts of coffee throughout the day. I haven't been able to for several months, since giving up PPIs, and I really miss it. I can drink about a cup of decaf Folger's each morning. Any more than this, and I have problems. I have been drinking Licorice Spice tea made by the Stash company. It has some orange oil in it, but so far, I have been able to tolerate this fairly well.

WJF
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   Posted 12/12/2012 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
hi lady,

Among the stuff you are taking, there could be something that isn't suitable for you and causes your reflux. It's hard to pinpoint now as you are taking many things at the same time.

You may want to check with doctors, whether the medications you took (anti-spasmadic) is contraindicated with LPR.

Dr. Koufman's diet is generally good for LPR, but then, it may be that it is unsuitable for you. The best diet is often found by using food diary, trial and error.

Lastly, do use antacid in addition to Zantac, carafate you are taking. Antacid is good for get fast relief from a sudden hyperacidity during the rebound phase of PPI withdrawal.
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