Menopause and GERD

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Browneyes31
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   Posted 5/1/2007 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I was wondering if anyone else seemed to have their first flare-up of GERD around the same time they went through menopause?  I never had any issues with heartburn, acid reflux, but as the menopause progressed, it came out of the blue.  I started with the metal taste in the mouth, along with the burning sensation in the back of my throat (all of these symptoms can be contributed to menopause).  Because my husband had a total knee replacement in January, I needed to sleep in another bed for 2 months.  I have always slept on my left side, but found myself on the right.  I have lost weight over the years, but some came back on.  Also with all the stress of his operation & taking care of the family, I had added stress.  Needless to say, I had a severe bout of acid reflux in the middle of the night, along with what I can only call a panic attack.  I've gone to the Dr who prescribed Prilosec & also had a barium swallow (waiting for the results).  At this stage of the game, the heartburn is better, but I still have an occassional sore throat and a feeling of something back there!
 
But not to get off the subject - has anyone else gone to heck in a handbasket since menopause?!?

APG
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   Posted 5/1/2007 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
 
My acid reflux started during perimenopause/early menopause.  I had never even had a case of heartburn, and still haven't.  Acid just comes up without any pain.  I would strangle during the night and then it started happening during the day, too.
 
I got on replacement hormones two years ago at age 44.  I recommend this.  I didn't even feel like the same person in the head there for a few days.  I immediately got better and back to being myself on the hormones.  Now my new doctor wants to reduce the dose.
 
Do the hormone tablets somehow irritate the throat on the way down and trigger reflux?

KarenG
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   Posted 5/1/2007 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I just recently went to a gastro doc who did my endoscopy (hiatal hernia and some irritation to the esophagus) and she asked about my cycles. They are still very regular at 45 and I don't consider myself near menopause (went through alot of infertility and didn't have my kids until 38 and 43) but she said that even in perimenopause (yikes) acid reflux can come on in women pretty quickly without any warning. Nothing we can really do about it except hope that after a few months of meds it calms down enough to get off of them. I'm hoping that a change in diet (really miss my caffeine and alcohol) will allow me to get off the meds for good. I was on Nexium for 8 weeks with no real relief. I've been on Zegerid for less than 2 weeks and it has changed my life as far as acid reflux goes. It's all but gone. No more lump in the throat. I'm able to sleep almost flat at night without any problems and I've been able to drink decaf coffee at last. I did go for a Margarita a few nights ago and felt it for a while afterwards, but my nightime pill really took care of it. The Zegerid has a bicarb attached and I think it helps tremendously, though I've read some posts that people weren't impressed by it. It has been a miracle drug for me and while really expensive, my insurance agreed to pick it up and I have 3 refills, so hopefully it will continue to work and I can finally get off of it.
Karen

CathyA
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   Posted 5/2/2007 7:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Browneyes,

I got HORRIBLE GERD during perimenopause. I was on HRT for about 6 years at the same time. When I came off the HRT, my GERD improved significantly. Are you on any HRT?
YES.........I've gone to hell in a handbasket since then. Its very sad. Every day is a challenge. I also have fibromyalgia........but I often think its just menopause.
Are you on any other meds that could be making your reflux worse? Try cutting back on your carbs, caffeine, and those foods that are hard on us (tomato, chocolate, etc.).
And never lie down for several hours after you eat.
How long were you in perimenopause? Alot of us seem to get that feeling in our throats during that time. I think our muscles relax, and that includes our esophaguses. What a drag it is for us!!!!

Tummytuck
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   Posted 5/2/2007 7:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been menopausal for about 3 years now and my reflux started about that same time though my symptoms didn't get really bad (didn't actually know I had it but in hindsight regarding silent symptoms) until 6 months ago. The ppi's didn't help at all - they actually made it worse. Now I am doing the DGL and aloe vera juice. Not perfect but better than with the ppi's. My doctor didn't confirm, but I believe that menopause triggered my reflux.

Tummytuck

Browneyes31
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   Posted 5/2/2007 11:23 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for all the replies.  It is close to 2 1/2 years since my last period.  I guess I just thought that once it was done and nothing else was shouting out at me, that it was a done deal, but apparently I was wrong.  Like I said, the GERD just surfaced out of the blue, but now when I look back, I could have been experiencing it and saying it was a menopausal symptom.

My ENT has me scheduled for a CT of the neck & chest as a precaution (already had the barium swallow), but I will have to admit that I have been EXTREMELY anxious over all of this, and I have been trying to relax & not look at the gloom and doom - well, I am noticing some difference with my throat (not as tight and not always feeling like there is a lump).

I am still using the Prilosec and the DGL licorice and so far so good.  I am still off the chocolate, caffeine, alcohol, spicy foods, but the fact that I do have an appetite is a good sign for me.

One other question which may sound silly - Has anyone else had motion sickness spring up on them since the "M" started?  Also anxiety or panicky feelings with no real validation? 

 


CathyA
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   Posted 5/2/2007 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi again Browneyes,
Perimenopause was sheer Hell for me. I can't say that enough.
I know some people float through it, hardly noticing it, but for me, I just about went insane. Actually.....I'm still trying to!
I have always been a fairly anxious person, but menopause has made it sooooo much worse. You wouldn't believe the number of women I've talked to who developed an anxiety disorder after menopause. Several of them became agoraphobic and have trouble leaving their homes. I don't know what the hell happens to us.
I think some women aren't nearly as estrogen-dependent as others of us.
I haven't had a period in about 3 years, but I still have occasional ovary pain, with PMS-type symptoms. I'm anxious for those little buggers to hang it up!
One other thing I used to experience with the hormone fluctuations was thinking every little pain I had was something terminal! It drove me crazy. Things have settled down alot, but still aren't as good as I'd like them to be. I also developed sleep apnea during perimenopause and I've just recently started using a PAP machine at night.
Good luck to you Browneyes!

Tummytuck
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   Posted 5/4/2007 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I have also experienced some vertigo through menopause. I do think it has everything to do with hormones or the lack thereof. I've also had a few anxiety attacks which, while not frequent, are pretty scary. Yes, this menopause stuff is for the birds. I don't know why so much attention is paid to the hot flashes when they are really not the worst of it - at least for me. The mood swings and the insomnia and all this other crap like GERD are the biggest pains in the rear.

Tummytuck

bugson
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   Posted 6/10/2007 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone, I have just joined this site after searching the net for an answer as to what the heck is happening to me.I have just turned 47 and in the last 18 months or so my life has been turned upside down, I have always been an easy going fun loving person, but now I feel like I am on the fast track downhill.It started out of the blue 18 months ago on a Saturday morning when I rolled over in bed and wham it felt like someone picked the bedroom up and was flipping it around, I had developed vertigo, I was so ill my 15 year old son had to stay home and help me as I couldn't walk straight. the first attack lasted two days and tapered off, my doctor sent me for all types of tests, revealing nothing, I am a little overweight and on blood pressure meds but other than that I have been good. I have had numerous attacks since and can no longer sleep lying down, I have resorted to sleeping in my big recliner chair.That started  because not long after the vertigo kicked in I had my first panic attack, I woke up and felt like I was suffocating with this overwelming feeling of dread, I was so distressed I started hyperventilating.My poor husband was at a loss and wanted to take me to the hospital but I did'nt want to go. I have never had anything like this in my life even during times of extreme stress, I have always coped. I think I now have GERD or maybe a hernia as I also have the chest pain and pressure in my throat. Please don't think I am a hypocondriac, I have never worried about health issues, but my doctor thinks it could be linked to perimenopause, has anyone else experienced horrors like this ? Honestly if this is the road to menopause you can keep it. I am sure my hubby thinks his wife is going slowly mad as I cry easily and get snappy over little things, I think the worst for me is the waking up at night and feeling breathless, I am terrified it could be sleep apnea, it's very frightening and can often kick off a panic attack. It's not fair we women have to go through so much, if anyone else has experienced anything like me I would be interested to hear.
thanks

Tummytuck
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   Posted 6/13/2007 12:37 PM (GMT -6)   
You know, when they talk about menopause, they talk mainly about no more periods and hot flashes.  No one mentions all of this other fun stuff that goes along with it and is much worse than the hot flashes.  Heck, I can handle a hot flash here and there.  But the GERD, the insomnia, the panic attacks, the joint and muscle problems to the point of carpal tunnel surgery not to mention the memory lapses AND the vaginal dryness for those of us who are sexually active (yes, old ladies do have sex and like it) and oh, the menopot . . . are nothing but a huge pain in the rear.  It does feel as if you are falling apart.  I have been assured, though, that the dust will settle and my body will adapt and I can go on from there and accept that things will never be the same.
 
As someone else on this board has posted . . . menopause is not for sissies.  cool
 
Tummytuck

Browneyes31
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   Posted 6/14/2007 3:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I'm relieved to know that I'm not the only one who has more than the usual hot flash / night sweats thing.  After two years of no periods and not much else to get excited about, I thought this menopause thing was a cake walk and then the GERD, motion sickness, aches, forgot about the memory lapses, etc. came on with a bang.  Everything that I have read about menopause says that eventually things even out - I just hope it's soon!
 
 

jewels3691
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   Posted 7/5/2007 5:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Until I read these posts I was convinced I was going mad! I'm a 44 year old, reasonably happy, healthy, active, well-adjusted woman who has been experiencing a variety of symptoms for the better part of a year now .... and i'm about to lose my mind! Panic attacks, anxiety, palpitations, debilitating bouts of dizziness/vertigo, asthma, horrible insomnia, crashing fatigue....and now GERD that feels like it's strangling me at night! Other than blood pressure meds, i've never taken prescription or recreational drugs. Unsure of what could possibly be triggering these symptoms I completely avoid coffee, soda, alcohol and sweets. Basic tests reveal nothing out of the ordinary. I don't know what to do, these symptoms are disrupting my life! Could this be the beginning of menopause? Does it get any easier from here??

Browneyes31
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   Posted 7/5/2007 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
It is amazing how menopause can cause other symptoms to appear or escalate.  I may have gone without a period for almost three years, but that doesn't mean it's over!  I also have the palpitations, which is a new thing, but I'm happy to say that the GERD has subsided greatly.
 
I continue to take 20 mg. of Prilosec a day (I take mine at lunchtime), but have really increased my fiber (fruits, veggies, whole grains, etc) and for some reason something is working.  I suffered from chronic constipation, but no longer.  Drinking alot of water, very little to no alcohol, caffeine, chocolate, etc.
 
But, I still have motion sickness and another new meno - hot flashes.  I guess if I had to pick GERD or hot flashes, I'd take the last one.
 
Maybe we should get a menopause forum going!!!  But all seriously, try the increased fiber - I read that Irritable Bowel Syndrome can cause GERD, and the best way to help the GERD is to correct the IBS first.  Good Luck!

LemurLover
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   Posted 1/10/2009 2:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I am new to this forum... I guess I am relieved to see that other women out there are experiencing similar problems to mine. I am 49, almost 50 and have been in menopause for about 1 1/2 years. What a mess! The latest thing has been a struggle with GERD, which started rearing its head about 7 months ago, getting progressively worse. I guess I was in denial about it at first, and then realized what it was. I tried Zantac, but that wasn't strong enough, then Prilosec, which didn't seem strong enough either. My doc put me on Prilosec OTC twice a day (that is, 20 mg when I awaken, 20 mg at bedtime). about a week ago I decided enough is enough, and I finally cut out the little remaining alcohol, decaf coffee and chocolate out of my diet, hoping that would fix it. (It's been my experience that the worst offenders for contributing to GERD are caffeinated coffee and red wine -- those are REALLY bad & make my stomach hurt just writing about it. These diet changes have definitely helped, but the GERD is still there. I've also cut out fried foods, anything citrus, salad dressings, peppermint, tomato based sauces. even CHEWING GUM for goodness sakes ... not fun! I'm realizing that my life is ruled by rules: no eating after I take the Prilosec in AM, for 1/2 hour. No eating before exercise (which I do after getting up), so that means I often don't eat anything til 11:30am or noon! But I've found if I eat THEN exercise my stomach feels just awful. No eating after 6pm, certainly no lying down after eating. I've had hot flashes, but they are just annoying compared to the vag. dryness (horrendous... it was so bad at first that all my tissues down there started falling apart and bleeding, just from the friction of walking around) and the insomnia... many nights I get only 2 or 3 hours of sleep. I was sort of addicted to Unisom, which I've also ditched, as I think that was contributing to the GERD. But now my sleeping has taken a huge hit. Lately I find that I'm anxious... worrying that every little ache and pain is something that's going to kill me, terminal, etc. I travel a lot and I'm gearing up for a big trip to Africa, and I've realized I have tremendous anxiety about the upcoming trip. The anxiety probably doesn't help the GERD either. Like I said, it's a mess.

starrnr
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   Posted 1/12/2009 11:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so glad I opened this thread.

I've been in peri-menopause for about 8 months now and have been suffering from the worst heartburn and acid reflux for about 5 months now. I couldn't figure out why since nothing had changed. It never once occurred to me that the 2 things (menopause and reflux issues) were or might be related. My peri-meno symptoms have been minimal (thank heavens and knock, knock, knock on wood) and I rarely had heartburn but holy smokes -- lately the fire in the back of my throat has been awful. It doesn't matter what I eat (or don't), it just sneaks up. I get the weirdest hot feeling in the back of my throat and it actually makes me cough. I can lay down and all of a sudden, I have a mouth of acid (that's what it feels like). The list goes on... This is horrid.

I've tried antacids, Zantac, etc, and it helped, for a while. The bigger problem for me (I have a dysfunctional gastro system), is all this stuff binds me up horribly. Any suggestions? I put off calling my doctor, it just didn't seem that important. Guess I need to call him, but seriously, what exactly do I say?

Thank you so much Browneyes for starting this thread. I thought I was losing my mind.

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LemurLover
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   Posted 1/12/2009 11:48 PM (GMT -6)   
hi starrnr -- Wow, that sounds even worse than what I have! BTW, since I wrote that earlier post (2 days ago) I've had quite a bit of improvement with the GERD. I still have a bit of it, and have been VERY vigilant about my diet, that's for sure. I feel like I can't eat ANYthing. Your GERD sounds much worse than mine, I never had something come up the back of my throat, or had a mouth full of acid, just a very acidic tummy. Zantac is probably not strong enough for what you have, you might need Prilosec. It definitely sounds like you need to see a doc as soon as you can... just explain everything like you did here... I think totally cleaning up your diet will help, but you have to cut out stuff that's a problem completely, for a few weeks, to see if it makes a difference. I found that the Prilosec causes terrible flatulence in me (yikes!) and so I'm anxious to get off of it as soon as I can. But it only causes this problem in a small percentage of people (less than 3% of the population has this issue) so that probably won't happen to you. But if you have a dysfunction GI system, you need to really work with someone (medical professional) who can work out a regimen for you

Marburg
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   Posted 1/14/2009 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had GERD for about 13 years. It was first discovered during perimenopause. Last year I had a complete hysterecomy due to cancer concerns (came out clear with no signs of cancer) but the GERD (with a hiatal hernia and chronic gastritis) has since really ramped up. I also have diverticulosis of the entire colon and possibly IBS.

My doctors have (with the blessing of my endo) given me protonix and zantac. Addtionally, my doctor instructed me to take Gaviscon at night and to eat yogurt.

LemurLover
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   Posted 1/14/2009 3:53 PM (GMT -6)   
For whatever it's worth, I eat yogurt at least once a day (I like the plain Greek-style yogurt) and that really seems to help. My GERD is much better now, only an issue for the first 20 minutes of exercising, and my stomach feels yucky, but after 20 minutes, it goes away. Other than that, it's mostly gone, hallelujah! I attribute this improvement to not eating ANY chocolate, and definitely no coffee/decaf or alcohol. The other thing I've done is to replace regular bread with gluten-free bread, and that seems to help the flatulence problem.

camagu
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   Posted 1/15/2009 1:15 AM (GMT -6)   
hi all,I've suffered with GERD and depression for years so now that I'm perimenopausal I can't completely blame hormones....but they are not helping. GERD and depression worse. For GERD I'm on 40mg Nexium,80 mg Pepcid(seperated into 2 doses) and Mylanta prn.I've had 2 EGDs.No Barretts yet.Menopause is dreadful.

CathyA
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   Posted 1/16/2009 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I think the reason that this starts up during Perimenopause is because our muscle strength seems to weaken.....and our GI tracts are all muscle.
When I was still having a few periods, I would notice that around my period, I would tend to get certain foods stuck in my esophogus.
For me, the GERD has really calmed down, now that I'm actually in menopause. I still have a few symptoms of hormone fluctuations (migraine aura, joints get loose, food gets stuck in my esophagus, etc), but its not nearly as bad as it was during perimenopause.
Dr. Norm, a Ph.D. who has written a book on this subject, and used to be on this forum, believes that GERD comes from eating too many carbohydrates. I think I have to agree with him for the most part. Whenever I increase my consumption of carbs, my GERD flares up. So you all might consider eating fewer carbs.
Good luck to you all. Menopause should be outlawed!

caseycat
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   Posted 4/15/2009 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
It was good to get onto this forum.  I definitely can relate to a lot of what people are saying.  I hadn't connected GERD to perimenopause until my therapist said she was going to a conference regarding estrogen and acid reflux.  I was floored and had not made the connection, but seeing all of these posts, I feel much better, actually.  I've already cut out all alcohol, much caffeine and am sleeping propped up at night and not laying down prior to two hours before bed. These definitely help, but I think what really has helped is just reading these posts.  I believe that stress and freaking out and thinking that every little pain was serious and terminal really takes a toll on us. I too am wondering why this information doesn't get out to all of us women.  What's going on with the medical (not health) system?  Is it truly a gender thing or because the drug companies want to keep selling us pills or what?  I do think a holistic approach to it cannot help but do good, and the more natural the better.  This is the first place I have actually seen anyone talk about the "lump in the throat" feeling.  Other internet sites only seem to talk about the heartburn, burning, etc feeling, but not the lump in the throat.  Thank you all for being there and sharing.

cyltiesue
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   Posted 6/30/2009 8:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I am sooooo glad I found this site, I have been suffering with GERD for almost 4 years now and didn't connect it to perimenopause until recently.  I am 50 years old and have been exhibiting several of the perimenopause symptoms, never realising that the ever present hearburn, lump in my throat, headaches etc...were also a wonderful part of it. I was on 20mg of Prilosec every day but decided to quit cold turkey on December 31 .  I have good weeks and bad weeks, but am still committed to coping with this drug free. I have too many concerns that the long term ingestion of drugs will eventually have a negative affect on my body.  I too have discovered that smaller meals several times a day helps aswell as limiting acohol consumption.  I am English and am addicted to tea, so to date have been unable to give that up, having said that I really can't say that it is one of my triggers. Don't get me started on that extra person that suddenly showed up 5 years ago hanging to my midriff, no matter what exersize I do she will not go away! Tennis elbow, I wouldn't mind but I don't play tennis, and whats with the peeing every two hours, even through the night.  I can't remember when I slept through, a full 8 hours, uninterupted sleep.  Ok, I am done bellyaching...it felt good.  Thnx girls for sharing, I will definately check this site out on a regular basis.

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   Posted 7/1/2009 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to HealingWell and the GERD/Heartburn Forum.  I am glad you found us an that you found this thread helpful to you.
 
Please do keep on talking with us and know we are here to support you.
 
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   Posted 7/24/2009 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
This is my first time posting to this form and I am so glad I found it.  I am 49 years old and dealing with perimenopause and GERD and didn't realize there could be a connection.  Please, allow me to vent!!  about three years ago I started feeling burning in my chest and was first diagnosed with inflamed cartilage then told I have asthma.  When inhalers didn't help the asthma specialist figured out it was GERD.  So, I was misdiagnosed for almost a year.  The omniprizole helped for the next two years.  During that time I had endless dental problems - I think I have had four root canals and crowns due to nighttime grinding - for a cost of about $10,000.  but that's off point.  I also had terrible vaginal dryness and burning which was also misdiagnosed as yeast, and vaginal infections.  Once I started taking premarin vaginal creme the problem stopped.  I felt like things were so much better this past spring that I met with my doctor about getting off the estrogen replacement and trying to stop the omneprozole.  I stopped for one day and the chest burning came back like a freight train and has not stopped for two months.  I am miserable.  I have stopped drinking coffee which was one of my biggest pleasures in life and have not stopped alcohol yet - but fear I may have to.  I have a glass of chardonnay once or twice a week and a margarita once a week.  Is that too much to ask for???  I am now seeing a GERD specialist and he wants to do an endoscopy.  I'm not too thrilled about that but do want to know if there is something causing the GERD.  I'm so bummed about this - in pain every day - somewhat in the morning and quite bad by late afternoon and evening.  I exercise 5 - 6 times a week, am thin, don't smoke and feel like I should be healthy!  Oh, and I just had a bone scan and found out I have osteopenia so am going on a new bone drug - which can also make my GERD worse.  So far I haven't taken it because I want the GERD to get better first.  Thanks for letting me vent!!  Like other women my age, I so feel like I'm falling apart.  I hope it gets better... 

couchtater
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   Posted Yesterday 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there!!!
smhair  
I thought my body has been falling apart for the last six years. I have 6 specialists for all my troubles. smhair smhair   smhair  
 
The endoscope it is not that bad. Ask for IV sedation and you won't know a thing! I spent mine asleep and woke up with a little sore throat. Tell him to do a BRAVO test on you, too, while your out. That's usually the next step of testing and you'll kill two birds with one stone.
 
As for the alcohol I'd stop it, it can cause more irritations. nono
 
 There is many options available out there for you. Talk to you GERD doctor about your osteopenia and nexium. I've heard they can be tied together.
 
If you want to know more about the surgeries available for weak LES read all the posts about the Nissen and my post about Esophyx procedure.
 
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