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nuttynurse25
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   Posted 5/7/2008 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Im new to this board...Has any body heard of decentizing allergy shots inducing auto immune responses..for example ra ...diane

Ark
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   Posted 5/10/2008 7:34 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi Nuttynurse25,

 I'm wondering the same thing as you are asking here.

I just had the Skin Prick Test done this past week (05/07/08).

When I went back in for my results for the test the doctor said I was Super Hypersensitive Person to just about everything on the test.

He wanted me to do several shots that would desensitize me over a period of shots to the allergens I'm allergic too. I backed off when he wanted to inject me with these allergens and wouldn't let him inject me with the stuff. 

I had reactions from the Skin Prick Testing and was so sick I told him that I do not want injections of allergens I'm allergic too to be injected into my body for the fear of having a reaction to it.

 

His response to this was "it will not make you sick, over time it will desensitize your body to the allergen and you won't be allergic to it anymore."

To me this is Very hard to believe! Maybe someone will come along and help explain this better to us, because I personally do not see were a person would not get sick from injected allergens they are allergic to.

 

Sabrina

nuttynurse25 said...
Im new to this board...Has any body heard of decentizing allergy shots inducing auto immune responses..for example ra ...diane

nuttynurse25
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   Posted 5/10/2008 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello sabrina, 
        Thanks for your quick reply....I have been getting allergy shot for over ten years....within the last two years, i switched docters and have been get two shots a week instead of one...I to have chronic sinusits and tons of allergys...I do have improvement in my sinuses but now Im getting arthritis symptoms and think I have rheumatoid arthritis or another auto immune disease...diane(nuttynurse)

Another Day
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   Posted 5/10/2008 10:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Personally, I think allergy shots work great for some people and not for others.  In the late 70's - early 80's, I took allergy shots, two shots a week for five years.  They didn't help me at all.  I was still taking all the other medication and having to Celestone injections to break the migraine cycles.  My migraines are triggered by allergies.  Since I developed epilepsy less than two years ago and Topamax is one of the seizure medications I take, I have a lot less trouble with migraines.
 
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Razzle
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   Posted 5/11/2008 1:56 AM (GMT -6)   
So the theory behind allergy desensitization shots is this:

Inject tiny amounts of the substance you are allergic to, for the purpose of "retraining" the immune system to "accept" the allergen as "ok" and not harmful. This injection of minute amounts of the substance causes the creation of IgG antibodies to the substance, which are not believed to be involved in allergic reactions by most allergists. And it is known that IgG antibodies compete with IgE antibodies for mast cell receptor sites. So if more IgG than IgE antibodies to something are floating around in the blood, then it is more likely the IgG antibodies will stick to the mast cells and thus will block the IgE antibodies from attaching to the mast cells and triggering an allergic reaction. That's the "textbook" allergy theory behind allergy desensitization shots.

In general, it works pretty well for most people, with about 80% (or more) seeing positive results from the desensitization shots. Positive results = reduction in symptoms, or complete resolution of symptoms upon exposure to the substance(s) to which the person is allergic.
Also, usually the person is advised to take antihistamines (H1 blockers such as Claritin, etc., and also sometimes H2 blockers like Tagamet or Pepcid) prior to every allergy shot to help reduce reactivity to the small amount of substance that is injected.

My Brother has been getting allergy shots for a couple of years now and has found them to be very helpful. He used to abhor doing anything outside, and his nose used to be constantly stuffy & runny, etc. Now, he goes hiking almost every weekend no matter how heavy the pollen is outside, and gets only very mild allergy symptoms. So he has seen great results from the allergy shots.

I hope this helps...take care,


-Razzle
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Joseph Z.
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   Posted 5/14/2008 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
My allergist has a sign up in his office that says you must wait 20 minutes after getting allergy shots before leaving. This is a precaution in case you have a bad reaction to the shots.

My advice would be to try the shots at least once. If you have a reaction, your allergist is on hand to help you. Allergy-proofing your home would also be a good idea.

Another Day
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   Posted 5/14/2008 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think it can hurt for anyone with allergies to try them.  You won't know if they will help you or not if you don't give it a try.  Personally, after five years I decided they weren't working for me.  But that's just me, it is not the norm.
 
Good luck to those of you thinking about trying allergy shots.
 
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Momikins
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   Posted 7/5/2008 12:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Allergy shots made it possible for me to live a normal life. Before I started on them I was always sick. My allergies brought my immune system down to nothing and I caught everything that came around. I was on the shots for ten years. Now I'm a preschool teacher and I hardly ever miss a day of work. Sometimes I wish I'd get sich just so I could have a day off. Recently I have had trouble with my sinuses and was told that I must still have allergies even though I tested negative to the 30 most common allergies of the area I'm living in. However, I no longer have a battle with bronchitis and pneumonia. As a child I was so sick that no one believed I'd be able to attend public school. Not only was I able to attend school, but I excelled in almost all subjects. The allergy shots changed my life. I started taking them at age 6 and stopped at age 16. You owe it to yourself to at least try them for 6 mos. and see if they can help you like they helped me.

Momikins
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   Posted 7/5/2008 12:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I just wanted to add that the reason I stopped taking the allergy shots was that I was no longer testing positive to the allergins that I was initially diagnosed with.

Ark
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   Posted 7/5/2008 1:15 AM (GMT -6)   
My allergist wanted ot start me on allergy shots and I told him no.
 
Even tho I'm allergic to all kinds of grass, trees, ect. according to the skin prick test results.
I never have a stopped up nose, runny nose or go into a sneezing frenzy and never have watery eyes. So I do not get why they still want to do the allergy shots one me....maybe so they can ride my ins. company!?!?
 
My biggest problem is food allergies. I haven't yet heard him say a thing about ahot for food allergies...is there such a thing?
 
I've also had 3 different allery testing done by 3 different allergist, all 3 test contradict each other. Now that really has me wondering if these test are even close to being right  confused   
  One test would show me a 3+ on beef, and on another test it would show me not allergic to beef and same with all the other things they tested me for....baffles me.
 
 
Sabrina

Post Edited (Ark) : 7/5/2008 12:23:12 AM (GMT-6)


Another Day
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   Posted 7/5/2008 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I have to agree with Momikins, if you test positive and have the symptoms, I would give them a try.  They do work for a lot of people.  Allergy shots just didn't help me.  That is my unprofessional opinion.
 
Take care!
 
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Dragoness Warrior
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   Posted 7/8/2008 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I've had severe asthma and allergies since I was 7 yo and I'm 30 now!  I have been taught, both in Microbiology, and by a well known international doc, that allergy shots aren't very good, though I'm not telling ANYONE not to!!  The whole thing is, you are injecting yourselves with the very same thing that makes you sick to begin with, that is part of the problem!!  So many people that I knew over the years have gotten them and have only made them more sick.  But remember to, this is one person's opinion!  Just be careful what you're putting into your bodies!  I have not had ONE allergy shot in all these years, and I'm PERFECTLY happy without them!!  And I don't plan to ever get them either!  And as a young child of 7, they wanted me to go on them because I was SO bad, and my parents made the best educated decision, and said no!  I thank God everyday for GOOD doctors, which are more and more scarce these days!!  Good luck to everyone, and I hope that you all get some relief!!

Ark
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   Posted 7/8/2008 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I think that Avoidance of the Allergen is the best way to deal with allergies and if you can really figure out what your really allergic too!

I asked this new allergist I saw a few weeks ago to re-run Wheat, Corn and Beef food allergens on me because they came back negative on the prior skin prick test he did on me...this time all 3 came back positive....hmm, go figure!
Personally after seeing 3 different allergist and having 3 different skin prick testing done and all had different results, it's very disappointing and discouraging that these test are not accurate at all....plus to me it's was a waste of my time and money.
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