milk issues as part of dairy intolerance

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damo123
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   Posted 2/15/2009 1:01 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi,
 
I was diagnosed with both IBD and IBS. My conditions are mild, more of a nuisance than a problem. I have had food intolerance tests done and it was found I rated +4 for dairy, which I'm told means dairy is meant to give me big problems. I have 2 questions:
 
1) Do people believe that bowel issues cause food intolerance or is it the other way around, that food tolerance cause bowel issues?
 
2) Despite having a +4 reading for dairy I find that it is only milk that gives me issues, mainly via reflux and upset tummies. Other forms of dairy don't seem to cause me issues. Is there any significane I can draw from the fact that it is only the milk that gives me issues.
 
Thanks,
 
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SmurfyShadow
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   Posted 2/15/2009 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey thats a trick question on 1 lolol. I say each believe either way... As for your intolerance, I am also intolerant. I have found that milk is no go for me, in fact, I cant even do soy milk. I have to do rice milk. I can eat a little bit of cheese. I also did an experment when I was just starting my intolerance, Day 1 glass of reg milk Day 3 glass or organic milk Day 5 Glass of milk straight from a farm Day 7 Soy milk Day 9 Organic Soy Milk Day 11 Rice mlk. I waited a day inbetween to "clear out the effects" and found which one was best for me. If your brave enough to try it and live with the consequences, you can figure out which is best for you, and compare the side effects and look for common factors. It turns out I am intolerant either to a enzyme or the animal or feed they give the animal. So for you to be fine with cheeses, perhaps your only semi intolerant, or they happen to take out the enzyme that you react to when it is proccessed into other things.
 
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Razzle
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   Posted 2/25/2009 3:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Lactose is highest in milk and ice cream; processing of milk such as cooking (such as in pancakes) or culturing (such as for yogurt/cheese) reduces lactose. Or you can try Lactaid brand milk - it is lactose-free. Many people with IBD are lactose intolerant, especially when flaring. Also, you may not be aware of what other symptoms of yours are from dairy, because they may be delayed onset (i.e., occur hours to days after eating/drinking dairy products) or because you are only sensitive to whey proteins (which are destroyed with cooking). If I were you, I'd avoid all dairy for 2-3 weeks, then try various dairy products one at a time to see which one(s) cause a change in symptoms for you. Some with IBD and/or IBS actually find their disease becomes more manageable once they eliminate foods they are sensitive to.

As for which comes first, the dairy intolerance or the bowel trouble, it depends on the individual... Usually, though, the bowel trouble starts out asymptomatically (i.e., without obvious symptoms), followed by development of the sensitivity, which then can make the bowel trouble worse, which can lead to a worstening of the dairy sensitivity and/or development of other food intolerances/sensitivities, etc. If your 4+ to dairy was IgG antibodies, avoiding all dairy for 6-18 months may enable you to eat dairy again. However, some find they must limit their consumption once they re-introduce the food to once every 3-5 days or they tend to re-develop the sensitivity. Rice, soy, nut and/or oat milk may be adequate for milk substitution, and are usually widely available in most grocery stores today (and the taste has improved over the years too). These milk alternatives are also suitable for cooking, and some companies also make other dairy products based on these dairy alternatives....but be careful, most "dairy-free" cheese still contains a milk protein called Caseine (ingredient list on the label says caseine or caseinate). Some with dairy sensitivity can still tolerate butter, but you may need to avoid that too - Nucoa and some other brands of margarine are truely dairy-free, while most other margarines do still contain some dairy ingredients (watch those labels!).

For more info on dairy allergy, check out http://www.nomilk.com/

Good luck & take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, Anemia, Lymphopenia, intermittant Pancytopenia, chronic malabsorption/malnutrition, etc.; G Tube; Currently TPN-dependent.
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