ProAir + Panic Attacks

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JasonK
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   Posted 5/20/2009 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I was fairly recently prescribed ProAir as my rescue inhaler (approx 4 months ago?). Previous to that it was the standard old school albuterol inhalers (I forget the brand). Anyways, the first thing i noticed was how much better the ProAir worked for me. It seemed to clear up my Allergy Induced Asthma a lot better than the older inhalers. (current meds include allegra + advair). I rarely, if ever, exceeded the recommended dosages. The AIA hasn't been that much of a problem since i was diagnosed with it approx. 6 years ago. I typically use the inhaler to lessen the symptoms of AIA but if I don't use the inhaler the AIA symptoms typically pass on their own (except for the one time which required a mild late night hospital visit where i was diagnosed with the condition)

A month or so after i started using ProAir I started getting "panic attacks" since these weren't diagnosed by an MD i dont want to say that they are definitive panic attacks. The symptoms would start with a rush of general anxiety / light-headedness which would definitely scare me and then my heart would race, i would have shortness of breath and would feel clammy etc. Then the real fear would set in which seemed to cause the above symptoms to get worse - like a snowball effect To alleviate the symptoms I would try basic relaxation techniques, walk around a bit, change environment etc. This seemed to help break the cycle and get the emotional aspects under control.

After doing general research via google i found that these are typically panic attack symptoms which helped me in gaining a bit of understanding as to what was going on. Of course I planned / plan to see a doctor about this - eventually lol.

Originally the "panic attacks" were very rare maybe twice a month so i didn't think much of them. They then started to occur more frequently (roughly twice a week) but since i "knew" what they were they weren't as bad. I decided that i didn't like them at all though and figured something needed to change lol. I figured i would start exercising again to see if that helped. I don't know if the exercise helped that much but it certainly doesn't hurt and it did seem to help a bit (i also need to get my **** back into shape anyways lol). I thought whatever was happening was all mentally based anyway.

After the exercise regimen started they still persisted a bit, albeit less than once a week. I thought about what external changes i made since they started and the only thing I could think of was the change in inhalers. I consulted a doctor friend of mine who informed me that one of the side effects of Pro Air was indeed panic attacks. (Whew! I'm glad it could be something easily preventable!)

I immediately stopped using pro air and went back to an old school inhaler that i had for years. Once I stopped taking the pro air the symptoms subsided entirely. Unfortunately my old inhaler is empty but I still have the pro air one. I have stopped using an inhaler almost entirely and typically just wait out the shortness of breath since it typically only takes about 20 mins to subside and it isn't that bad. However i did use it once a couple days ago with no ill effect. Please note that I never had this problem with other "old style" albuterol inhalers.

So, if you got to this part of my post I really appreciate you taking the time to read it.

I was wondering:
1. Has anyone else had a similar experience to this?
2. What is the difference between the older style albuterol inhalers versus the newer style (other than the propellant)
3. Is it possible to get the older inhalers?
4. Is there an alternative?
5. How serious are these issues?

Thanks!
j
**I certainly plan on seeing my PCP - sometime lol.

Aurora60
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   Posted 5/20/2009 9:28 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Jason, I will try to give you an answer to your questions.  Pro air is albuterol which has a propellant called HFA.  The old inhalers you are referring to were propelled by CFC which the government decided was dangerous for the ozone layer so they banned it.  This is ridiculous as there is not enough CFC in inhalers that if everyone with asthma used one of these it wouldn't even make a tiny dent.  This is something that someone at the EPA or FDA who was sitting around with nothing to do decided to make life hard for those of us who suffer asfhma. But you want to know about pro air.  It is the same medicine as your old inhaler.  What you are experiencing is the jitters from the albuterol.  You may be particularly sensitive to the albuterol.  I assume you use this only occasionally as albuterol is a rescue inhaler and is not meant to be used every day.  If you have bad asthma you need a long term inhaler. I have bad asthma and I use symbicort for my long term inhaler and pro air for my rescue inhaler. The dr. who said the pro air causes panic attacks is a bit wrong on this.  What you are experiencing is a particularly sensitive reaction to the albuterol.  If you are having really bad asthma problems I would suggest you see a pulmonologist (lung specialist) and get yourself tested to see what meds you need.  The tests are very easy, just different breathing type tests, nothing painful. If you have asthma then you need a long term inhaler which the dr. would determine.  You might need a steroid inhaler or something like I take. You might even at some point need treatment with prednisone or you might need a nebulizer treatment. There is another kind of rescue inhaler called xopenex which does not give you jitters and it is not albuterol.  It is milder.  I tried it but it did not clear up my breathing. If you have allergy induced asthma you might need a med called singulair.  The older CFC inhalers are no longer available.  If you want to get to the bottom of this go see a lung specialist.  Your PCP can prescribe something for you but that dr. is not trained in exactly how lung function works. So - this is the best advice I can give you - go to a lung specialist.  When I did, my breathing cleared up that very day when I got the proper meds for me.  Let me know how you are doing. I forgot to mention, do you use a spacer with your inhaler?  You definitely need one as it gets the med into your lungs instead of getting in your throat or on your tongue. You need a prescription for a spacer and the pharmacist should explain how to use it. I honestly think that is you have allergy asthma that the singular would be the best thing for you.  Do check this all out with a specialist. You can get a lot of inaccurate information from the internet.

Aurora


Post Edited (Aurora60) : 5/20/2009 8:37:48 PM (GMT-6)


JasonK
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   Posted 5/22/2009 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
THanks for the reply Aurora!! I wander if the new propellant helps the administration better than the old CFC's. (The drug certainly seemed more effective) At the time i was probably using the inhaler a couple of times a day for a few days. Im using it very sparingly now since my asthma problems arent that bad. I've only used a nebulizer once (when i was diagnosed with AIA) Hopefully i wont have to use prednisone again. Ive had to take it a couple of times for bronchitis or similar and boy was that a ride lol. I'll look into going to a pulmonologist as well as getting a spacer.
I really appreciate the advice!
j

Aurora60
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   Posted 5/22/2009 5:31 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Jason, I am so glad I was able to help you with you allergies and asthma.  I know what you mean about the prednisone.  I bounce off the walls when I have to take it, but it does get me breathing clearly so it's just something to put up with.  And I take just regular prednisone.  There is another type called a medrol pack which is a steroid. You start out with 6 pills, next day 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1.  I beg the dr. not to give me a medrol pack as it makes me totally crazy.  Good luck with your drs appt. and hope you are feeling good again.

Aurora


niki07
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   Posted 5/22/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Jason...I had the same trouble. My Dr. didn't think it was the Proair so he put me on Ativan...more drugs that I don't need. Anyway, I found this site searching for info on HFA inhalers. It expalins alot about Proair and all of the NEW HFA's that are making us sick.
http://www.savecfcinhalers.org/

Hope you feel better.

JasonK
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   Posted 5/23/2009 11:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Wow Ativan??!!! how long did he plan on you taking that? Be sure to be careful with those or any benzodiazipines !! thanks for the site. I'll be sure to read through it. I hope things work out for you as well :)

Aurora60
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   Posted 5/23/2009 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   

Jason. the site for www.savecfcinhalers.org is a great website.  You will learn a lot.  I hope you find it iteresting and informative as I did. They need our support so do read thru everything.  You will be glad you visited it.

Aurora


Chartreux
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   Posted 5/24/2009 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Aurora, I posted same messages about the government taking cfc inhalers off the market for no true reasons...
but the enviromentalist have everyone running scared..
Jason always look up what a new med can do to you before taking one, so you completely understand what
the side effects can be..I always do this as so many drugs can interact with the meds, I currently take, and
I'm allergic to eyrthromycin and have to stay on top of my doctors with that and one doc recently wrote a script with
that in it and if I had taken that med, I could've been in the ER or worse...
So sorry this reaction had to happen to you though and hope you can get the meds you need..
soft hugz...
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Aurora60
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   Posted 5/24/2009 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Chartreux, I did not see your post on the cfc inhalers and wanted Jason to be aware of what was happening.  I certainly didn't mean to step on any toes so do forgive me for repeating what you said.  If it was a while ago sometimes people do not go back and look at old posts. Hope you are doing well and having a good holiday weekend.

Hugs,

Aurora


Chartreux
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   Posted 5/25/2009 1:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Awe hey, Jason and Aurora
I wasn't feeling good when I posted yesterday, sorry..
a big big SORRY...
anyways, no harm meant, hope you both get feeling better soon...
HUGZ to you both..........
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JasonK
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   Posted 5/25/2009 1:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I didn't know there was a non-steroidal prednisone. The next time i need to take it i'll push my doctor to give me that. When i do the steroids the first few days are great, don't even need much sleep. After that i just want it to be over and its usually many days till its over lol.
Dont sweat it Char, (hey, thats what i call my daughter, her name is charlotte :). I always try to read the info on new meds, check em out online, verify with the pharmacist about any interactions etc. With the new inhaler though, i was told it's albuteral so i didnt think much of it. Again, thanks for everyones help!

jason

Aurora60
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   Posted 5/25/2009 2:56 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Jason, there are many types of inhalers you can use that are not albuterol.  Like I mentioned (I think) there is xopenex which many people love and it doesn't give the jitters. But there are many other types of inhalers you can use that are long term if you need that and they don't have side effects like albuterol or prednisone.  If it is allergies you are suffering from or even some asthma ask your dr. about singulair. It is a tablet you take once a day but it works for both allergies and asthma.  I take it and I have absolutely no side effects from it. Also, if you do have to take a steroid ask your dr. not to give you a medrol pack. They are steroids that you start with 6 pills a day, then 5,4,3,2 & 1.  Medrol for me as well as many others will make you climb up the walls and around the ceiling.  Regular prednisone, while not easy either is not so bad. What I do is start with 5 pills for 2 days, then 4,3,2, & 1 each for 2 days.  At least you can sleep with this type of steroid.  I wish you luck and let us know what the dr. has to say.  Hope you are feeling better soon. I did want to mention to you Jason that if you are having breathing problems you do need to get it under control even if it is from exercise or allergies.  Keeping your airways open is important because you need oxygen for all your other organs to function properly. And if you can't breathe your whole system will have less oxygen which is especially important for your heart. Do go see your dr., sooner than later. Take care.

Chartreux, you are certainly forgiven - and allowed to voice your opinion when you want. I do hope you are feeling better. I was not offended at all.  Sometiimes we tend to repeat things we have said before. Take care of yourself.

Many hugs,

Aurora


Post Edited (Aurora60) : 5/25/2009 2:03:24 PM (GMT-6)


fortoday
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   Posted 6/30/2009 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
JasonK,
I read that panic attacks are part of the same genetic cluster which includes asthma itself. Perhaps, there is something going on with your kidneys that is caused by the proair and is triggering the panic attacks. I am curious to know, if you let your urine stand for a couple hours, does it become cloudy?
 skeptik

JasonK
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   Posted 6/30/2009 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
That's interesting.
Your login name as well as being signed as skeptik certainly provides doubts to the validity of the statement.
I'll run it by a couple doctor friends to see what they think.
Thanks!
j

fortoday
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   Posted 7/1/2009 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I try not to believe everything I hear or read. Sometimes, though, common experiences can be very enlightening. I have been worried about my son for well over 8 months. No doctor seems to think there is a problem. Yet, it is making itself plainly known in the bathroom after a couple of hours if we don't flush after he goes to school. It turns out he is slightly hypoglycemic. He has used albuterol since he was three. I am curious if the switch in inhalers aggravated some underlying condition. It is one thing we can change. Do you have any other allergy symptoms or does anyone closely related to you have an autoimmune condition? I assume you use the inhaler for asthma.
k

JasonK
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   Posted 7/1/2009 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Im glad you responded, it certainly helps validate your previous post.
I'll give it a shot and let you know if it turns cloudy. Im sorry that your son has a problem.
Will his hypoglycemia get worse over time or will it continue to remain minor?
Out of curiosity have you tried adding vinegar to the urine to see if it removes the cloudiness?

I currently dont know if the inhaler switch did anything other than the panic attacks. When i went back to one of my "old school" inhalers that I had left over, the immediately went away. Since then, i've run out and am back to using the one that caused the panic attacks however i refrain from using it as much as possible. (maybe, once or twice every couple of weeks).

As far as allergies & autoimmune conditions, my fathers side of the family is mostly allergy free. I don't know about my mothers side of the family though since i have no contact with them. I definitely have allergies but they are mostly related to animals & dust. I haven't had any allergic reactions to medications. I really only get allergy induced asthma after exposure to new animals. I'm usually fine with dogs, but im typically bad with cats, even though i live with 2 cats lol (hence the need for the inhaler)
j

Chartreux
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   Posted 7/1/2009 4:20 PM (GMT -6)   
To Fortoday,
try doing a google search on all the meds your son is taking and
look specifically at the side effects of each one and then maybe talk to
your son's doctor about this problem, maybe it will clear up..
lots of soft hugz to you..
Jason, hope your doing well...
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and
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JasonK
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   Posted 7/1/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Im doing well Char, thanks for asking!
I hope you're doing well :-) considering that long list :-(

JasonK
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   Posted 7/2/2009 9:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Fortoday, i have no cloudiness after a 2 hours.
Thanks!
j

Benedikt
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   Posted 7/21/2009 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   

Unfortunately all CFC inhalers are taken out from the market, well government decided so ....
But the new Generic Fluticasone (Flovent) - even if it is generic version helps a lot. You can try and  buy Fluticasone and read medication guide on http://www.rxshop.md/index.php?type=products&id=100

Fluticasone Description:

Flovent (Fluticasone) is a corticosteroid used to treat asthma. This medicine is also used to prevent asthma attacks. It will not stop an asthma attack once one has started. It may also be used to treat other conditions as determined by your doctor.

Hope will help!



JasonK
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   Posted 7/21/2009 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Cool thanks! How does that compare to advair?
j

Benedikt
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   Posted 7/22/2009 5:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Of course it would be better to consult your doctor, he will decided what is the best for you.
Take care. :)
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