Asthma and fatigue

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Joan M
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   Posted 1/24/2006 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Am wondering if anybody else has a lot of fatigue with their asthma.  Most of my doctors are very unresponsive about this.  Had the same thing when I kept talking about my horrible sore throat which turned out to be mad reflux disease.  Makes me feel like a nut eyes when I'm talking and nobody is listening.  Hey, maybe they don't know what they are doing tongue !  I am Joan Mack and hope those who have fatigue will write me and tell their stories.

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   Posted 1/25/2006 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Joan, It makes perfect sense that asthma would cause fatigue. During an asthma attack, you are not breathing up to your full lung capacity due to airway constriction. This translates into less oxygenation into the blood and less oxygen getting to your muscles and other organs. Without enough O2, it sure is hard to keep going at a normal pace. Fatigue is the most likely result.
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   Posted 1/26/2006 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't have asthma but like Keah said, it makes a lot of sense really.

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T.E
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   Posted 2/1/2006 8:33 AM (GMT -6)   
ihaveasthma and it really tires me out. i need to find a doctor because i don't have one since i moved. stairs just about put me down.

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   Posted 2/1/2006 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi TE, welcome to Healingwell! What kind of medications if any do you take for your athma?

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Joan M
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   Posted 2/5/2006 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sherry and all! I take singular, advair and nasacort nasil spray everyday. I think they are all helpful but none of them makes my breathing normal.

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   Posted 2/11/2006 11:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Sherry and Everybody, I also use advair, albuterol, and nasacort which helps alot but when my asthma is really bothering me, I get tired easily.

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   Posted 2/12/2006 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Joan, have you told your doc about the meds not working properly? I don't have asthma so I don't know whats normal for an asthmatic but it seems that if you don't have severe asthma that you should be able to find the proper medications that can make your breathing normal and feel less tired.

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pointer
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   Posted 5/4/2006 9:18 AM (GMT -6)   
 I have severe Asthma and find that the simplest things tire me out.I used to ride bicycle several hundred miles a week,now I can"t even walk for more than a few hundred feet without feeling fatigued. If I do extensive walking or any major activity I can expect to have an asthma reaction the next day or two.They can be from mild to lasting several days. Fatigue after can last several days as my body recuperates both from the exercise and the ensueing asthmatic reaction. I take a massive amount of medications just to be able to do what little that I can do.
 
  I often wonder if it is all worth the effort. I just don"t seem to get any better no matter what I do . My Doctor says that I expect too much but I just can"t accept that. I have never had anything defeat me so completely.

plusgirl
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   Posted 5/8/2006 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   

Hello, All!

I'm a lifelong asthmatic and started Xolair about two years ago.  There's a posting here somewhere about my experience with it, the short version is that I'm considered a severe, persistent asthmatic and was on Pulmicort twice a day with albuterol in the mix at least two times a day.  After being treated with Xolair, I'm off the Pulmicort unless I get a cold or, as now, when the spring pollen count is off the charts.  I also climb a 900 foot waterfall and/or trailrun about 3 miles each day with the dog.

I was one of those asthmatics years ago who had multiple courses of antibiotics and prednisone often related to getting a cold, but just as often not related to anything I could put my finger on.

I highly recommend anyone whose symptoms are not in control to check back in with their doctor.  Remember, if you are newly on one of the steroidal inhalers, it may take up to 10 days to see any real relief.  Your doctor may want to put you on prednisone for a short taper to help you through the adjustment period.

I also recommend educating yourself about how to boost your immune system.  Asthma is considered an immune system type disease because, generally, your histamine (allergic inflammation) response is out of control.  And all the meds you take can leach nutrients out of your system and affect your adrenal glands (which may result in the fatigue you're feeling). 

Also, look into taking a yoga class or finding a workshop on "pranayama" (pronounced PRAH nah yahm), which is yogic breathing.  When I started on my long journey from unable to walk too far to where I am now, yogic breathing techniques and yoga itself, helped unlock the tightness in my ribcage thus allowing my lungs to expand more easily.  These techniques also teach you how to take a complete breath, most of us breathe very shallowly.  And, the most important part is emptying your lungs completely.  It's not so much that you can't get air in with asthma, you can't get it completely out so you're carbon dioxide level builds up, creating that panicked, "I'm drowning," feeling.  And I also recommend, once your symptoms are under control, start exercising SLOWLY!!!!!  A little at a time.  I started out doing about a tenth of a mile, roughly five hundred feet.  That's the distance along a line of five telephone poles.  Take it slow, increase as you can and you will recover old strength.  I did, I was a high school track star...a sprinter who, by the age of 23, couldn't go upstairs without my albuterol either. 

And keep at your doctor.  If he or she is dismissive, ask to see a pulmonary specialist and an allergist if you haven't already.  Asthma is not a cookie cutter disease and one inhaler may not be the best for all patients (although the insurance company doesn't realize that!!).  If your request to be referred to specialists is denied...find another doctor. 

Good luck to all, and by the way, I'm 47 now and intend climbing that little mountain every day for as long as my knees hold out!!

 

 

 


pointer
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   Posted 5/23/2006 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Plusgirl

I just started a new medication Asmanex It seems to be helping quite a lot . Thanks for the advice on excercise I'm going to try it I would like to get to where I could ride again. I'm going to walk alittle each day and see if it helps. Then I hope by the end of summer to be back on the bike.

Best Wishes to all

Joan M
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   Posted 9/30/2006 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   

I wanted to bring this back up because I am so tired and dopey.  I went at 4 pm and had a cup of coffee.  It is the only thing that seems to expand me mentally and physically but the doctors are very much against it.  They say I can have herbal teas.  I might have GERD and do have alot of dry mouth problems and hoarseness but I don't know why.  I have tried to lose weight but today I am so sick of being so slow...I leaped into a cup of joe.  Any thoughts? Is java BAD or GOOD?

 

I love the way it tastes too. :-)   



Chartreux
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   Posted 9/30/2006 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Joan M, I've been an asthmatic all my life! mine is moderate. I've read some articles where they say coffee is supposed to be good for you if you have asthma. Then this past year they say caffinated coffee is better for women. I guess if you like it and it doesn't bother you, what the hey, go for it.
Also, the asthma makes me tired sometimes. I was recently on prednisone for a flair and was I ever tired.
Good luck with your asthma yeah

Chartreux
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   Posted 9/30/2006 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I guess I shouldn't have said "go for it" with the coffee, if the docs don't want you to have it. It seems like no one really knows if it's good or bad for you. Maybe if you made a compromise with your doctors and limit the number of cups of coffee you have each day. Then there is that one aspect I read that if you're having an asthma flair reaching for coffee could help! Anyone else know of this...?
My mom would smoke and drink coffee around me all the time and I really never liked the coffee. Both smells together made me sick (coffee & smoke) and she couldn't understand why I was sick all the time.
Anyway, take care and good luck

Joan M
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   Posted 10/1/2006 7:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Chartreux...I think I will go for it for now. If I am down with a virus or during the summer, I know that coffee is not going to do it for me. It is at times like this when I feel good and want to have that extra punch that I think the joe might be good for me.

I have no dismissive doctors and could get referrals...it is just that all this medicine has side effects too. Also, I feel extremely rushed when I see my prime care doctor who is really very excellent but he has to deal with the whole me. I suspect my allergist would be more in favor of the java.

I just want to be active enough to "have a life" but do not hope to "conquer the world" since I am getting a bit too old for that!

Stonebreaker
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   Posted 10/2/2006 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I get up in the morning, put my colthes on, use my inahaler to open up my lungs and go for my morning walk with my wife, but the time I'm 1/2 a mile from home I'm tired. It's not just my body, but my brain is tired. Less oxygen I guess, even with the meds.

Joan M
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   Posted 10/2/2006 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry stonebreaker...unfortunately it really is a battle to keep awake sometimes. I am hoping to use green tea since it might be good for GERD.

Rache
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   Posted 6/18/2007 8:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Regarding fatique, I caught a cold about three weeks ago and my chest felt like it was a brick. I waited two weeks to treat it because I wanted to avoid medicine. I finally gave in; the doctor prescribed ADVAIR. It is definitely helping, but I have serious bone loss and yeast allergies, and I am wary of cortisone. My question: Despite the fact my asthma is mild, I feel very cold and have about three hours worth of energy. My temperature also fluctuates between 99.4 and 98.0, wheras it is 98.6 when I have energy. Can I expect to get asthma with fatique every time I get a cold? Is there a better medication for me? Does anybody recognize my symptoms? The MD ignored my concern about body temperature. I am new to this and very confused. Thanks

ceebee
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   Posted 6/18/2007 10:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi:) i am also sooo tired all the time and my brain gets fuzzy. I am on every med there is. The doc says there is nothing else to give me but I am wondering if some meds are changed, like a different inhaler or something? What does asmanex do? I just got off prednisone again. fifth time this year already. I am doing okay but scared silly of another major attack. I have a pulmonologist but he is always in a hurry. I would feel better if I had prednisone on hand for an emergency but can't get it so far. last summer I was in hospital every month for a week and almost died. This doctor seems to like hospitalizations...he makes mega money then. I can't even get an appointment for a month if I am having problems. His nurse says go to the hospital. I am sick of my paycheck going to the hospital! There has to be a better way. Help!

mlds
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   Posted 12/10/2007 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
HI Rache..you should have your Thryoid tested....fatigue and low temp are classic symptoms...you might be hypothyroid

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   Posted 12/10/2007 9:46 PM (GMT -6)   

 

 

ceebee,
 
I had no idea that was the way your doctor treated you, no wonder you end up in the hospital so much.  I also take the Xolair injection and my allergist lets me keep a little stash of Prednisone so I can go ahead and get started before I am able to get in touch with her.  She knows that by this time, I know what to do.  If I don't see improvement right away, she works me in so she can listen to my lungs and take a good look at me and make sure we are not missing anything.
 
If at all possible, you need a new doctor, possibly an allergist.  Stats show asthma patients do better when treated by allergists.
 
As severe as my asthma is, I have never been hospitalized for it and I have only had one ER visit a couple of years ago when I got real energetic and decided to do some cleaning so my cleaning lady could do a better job, got myself in a whole lot of dust in my laundry room.  I also made the mistake of calling a friend to take me to the ER instead of calling 911, because I was stubborn.  At that point I got hold of a nurse who told me I wasn't having an asthma attack because I wasn't even wheezing and sent me back out to the waiting room.  My friend knew I was dying and thank goodness, she called my allergist who made a call back to one of the doctors in the ER and I was taken right back.  After they got me stabilized, they told me that I had no air moving at all.  I told the doctor about the way the nurse had treated me and he asked me to describe her. He immediately went out and talked to her. She admitted how she had treated me and  chalked it up to the fact that she was having a bad day.  After I got well, I did file a complaint with the hospital against the nurse, nothing legal, I just don't want her to come near me again.
 
I would have died in the waiting room that evening if my good friend, Marilyn had not been there to take care of me.  Lesson learned:  When the situation is that bad, call 911, they can start treating you right away and you don't have to deal with any paperwork or difficult nurses who don't know what they are talking about.  I can not stress the importance of this.  It can mean the difference between life and death.
 
Actually, I only went to the ER because I thought George Clooney worked there.  I found out later that he worked in the ER in Chicago.  tongue    Just Kidding.
 
 

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Joan M
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   Posted 12/17/2007 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I drove myself to the ER. The nurse from my insurance company was horrible and wanted me to wait till the morning. (I got sick from the xray machine breaking down in my insurance company's clinic) The fumes sent me over the edge and I was gurgling. Luckily I had a great doctor. Actually everybody was nice to me at the ER...the guard moved my car as I parked where the ambulance was supposed to be! I was new to town and the doc asked me if I knew the doc in charge of the hospital in the old town. I did and that did not hurt. I had to take cortisone and had nightmares from it.

I was surpised to see this topic picked up again. Hope everybody is ok...when I get a virus I get very tired. Coffee does not help.

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   Posted 12/17/2007 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Joan, what a horrible insurance company!  You have asthma, their machine breaks down, you get sick from the fumes, of course, what asthma patient wouldn't, and they want you to wait until tomorrow to be treated?  They need to be turned into the local Board of Health or  someone.  That makes me furious just hearing about it.
 
I am really sorry you had to go through all of that.  It sounds like the folks at the ER were very kind.  I hope you told them what happened at the insurance company.  How are you feeling now?  Keep us posted.
 
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   Posted 12/18/2007 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm ok but these insurance companies are horrible. I am writing up a formal complaint on my new one ... when I get the energy. I am too tired. They denied me the shingles vaccine and then I came down with shingles. Had to pay out of pocket $356.75 for lidocaine patches since it was not in my "donut hole". I am too disgusted with the medical system. Am trying to cope with pain, lack of energy, etc.

Thank you so much for caring enough to write to me. That old company switched all their medicare people out.

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   Posted 12/19/2007 6:41 PM (GMT -6)   

Yikes!  I'm 56 now, is this what I have to look forward to when I turn 65 and have to be on Medicare?

What you are dealing with right now just doesn't seem fair.

 

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