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annadurfee
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   Posted 6/22/2007 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Okay, in all my research on hives I still cannot find any information about this.  When I wake up in the morning, I have hives obviously, I take a shower and the hives start going away rather quickly and they normally do not bother me during the day.  Then every night around 8-9pm I start getting the hives again even though I was taking my meds all day.  Is the something that they body does at night, like release toxins or something?  I know other have experience this same pattern of sorts and I was just wondering if it would help explain some things.  Reply if you can help.

-Anna

lunarlady
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   Posted 6/26/2007 12:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Anna...
Funny! I have often wondered the same thing! Hives act up on me as well in the evening. I have not found anything on it other than people suggesting that it must be something in the environment of my house. Have you washed your sheets with unperfumed soaps and taken other such precautions? Interesting....
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Kuuks
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   Posted 7/1/2007 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
This is a question i have resently started asking myself and anyone else who will listen.... i am now on my 3rd bout of chronic urticaria much to my desperate dissapointment and it seems this time to be getting a lot worse each eveninh around 10 or 11 o'clock.... the only thing anyone has come up with is maybe it's beacause i start to worry about the fact i'm not going to be able to sleep AGAIN.... this is a never ending cycle of devastation if you find out anything useful pls email me... kuuks_82@yahoo.co.uk...

Ceres
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   Posted 7/6/2007 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Something changes a lot at night. My hayfever always got much worse at night - all thru the night. It wasn't just from reclining either.

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   Posted 7/6/2007 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Hello

This is Kitt yeah  Anna, do you take any one med that you only take at night? People will sometimes be allegic to the dye in the meds.

How about dust mites as matteresses are notoriuos for being loaded with mites. Do you have allergen cover on your mattress and pillows?

Hope you solve this quickly as it surely sounds uncomfortable.

I wish you peace.


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Urticarina
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   Posted 7/15/2007 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi to all of you who suffer from chronic or occassional hives.

I have battled with this since 1990 - I ran the spectrum of doctors, meds, and crazy investigations looking for the cause and cure. Needless to say, I have not found a cure nor a single culprit -(although many culprits seem to be at play). I did have success with two specific medications that have helped me - and may help others. Please ask your doctors about Zyrtec and Hydroxizine. These meds made it possible, through the years, for me to have periods of a year to three years at a time with no breakouts. My hives were/are/ daily for years, a truly depressing and debilitating thing as the wear an tear on both the body and nerves accumulates - especially when so many people around you do not understand. At the time, no forums like this existed and it wasn't until years later that chronic urticaria was even considered a self-standing issue. An air purifyer in the room you sleep in is also helpful - I've done the mattress, box spring and pillow plastic covers thing (hot, noisy and others see you as a freak) but if it works for you it is a blessing. Water and it's quality does make a difference. If anyone out there has tried other things that work for them, please let me know. I hate being on medication and feel for anyone that has to be on anything to live. Good luck to you all. Urticarina

miss M
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   Posted 7/24/2007 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there, I have just started getting hives for the first time too, as well as terribly itchy lips. I thought it was brought on by stress or from overheating one night in bed but have had it now for two weeks on and off. It is always worse at night, wakes me up and drives me insane! Wet cold washers are the only thing that seems to work. . the telfast didn't do much. I have just however had a revellation and that is that I have been eating loads of date fruit and I would say that I have a food allergy judging on what I have just read. . hence me finding this websight. I am going to stop eating them and see what happens. Will keep you posted on whether my symptoms now goes away.

Thanks for the advice,
Miss M

smf
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   Posted 8/5/2007 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
 
  I started experiencing hives about a year ago. I originally thought something bit me that I was allergic to. Then I thought it was peanut butter and nuts, as the months went on and the hives continued, I tried a couple of doctors to no avail.  They don't know what to do, just kept giving me different prescriptions.  I felt like a guinea pig.  Of course, nothing worked.   I recently started using a face product (not for hives) and noticed it states under WARNINGS  "Contains sodium metabisulfite, a sulfite that may cause serious allergic type reactions (e.g. hives, itching, wheezing, anaphylaxis, severe asthma attacks) in certain persons".  This floored me, because I have never seen the word hives on a product.  I had been using this product for a couple of weeks, so I knew this may be part of the problem, but not all of it.  With lots of resarch online, I have come to believe what we are suffering from is sulfite sensitivity/sulfite allergy.  I will soon be seeing another doctor, hopefully to confirm this.  There are 6 forms of sulfites.  They are found in most products from foods to shampoos.  Google "hives and sulfites" and you'll be amazed at the information.  If this is the cause of our hives, a diagnosis would be good news.  However, it would also mean changing your entire diet, lotions, washing powders, even toothpaste.  We would have to seek specialty places to buy sulfite free products.
Not to mention just giving up certain everydays foods altogether.  This is the bad news, it seems to me almost everything has one of the 6 types of sulfites.  I have also learned that the FDA requires labels to state if they have any types of sulfites in them, but only if it contains a certain amount.  If the amount of sulfite is not enough (according to the FDA) to be required to be listed, then we will not know.  Please let me know if anyone out there has heard any of this from a doctor or if they have tried a"sulfur free" life and it has helped with their hives.  I, like most of you am desperate and willing to try just about anything.
 
smf

Zizi
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   Posted 3/19/2009 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi anna..

Fink its quite a late reply.. just met with that forum.. Am Z, a biomedical scientist.
concerning your hives, well, its physiological for the hives to worsen at night. its a completely natural process. actually, during the day the body produces its own anti-itch chemicals. i.e it will help prevent itching. you can use an antihistamine like ZYRTEC to aid the body in preventing itching. At nite, as th sun sets, and the body prepares itself for sleep, the production of these anti-itch chemicals falls to very low level and the hives exacerbate by then, that's why at nite hives are more itchy and cause much discomfort..

Regards, Z... :-)

SmurfyShadow
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   Posted 3/28/2009 11:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Although Zizi is correct, you should NOT use any OTC or prescription for a long period of time unless under the direction of a physician. Document what you do, eat, drink and when hives take place. Photograph the hives. This is called evidence, there of, in lack of a physician thinking your imagining this...it would be hard to dismiss. I recommend not only doing this but also scheduling an appt with your physician as well as an allergist. Remember, if your throat swells up call 911 as that is a SEVERE allergic reaction. I definately had God watching me , my severe allergic reaction last month was in my doctor appt (thankful the doc listened and observed me when he gave me a shot of a new medication, I suspected with a lot of allergies I could react and ordered a 30 minute obverstation, he abided and wow thank goodness! Went head to toe hives and throat swelling.)
 
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Zizi
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   Posted 3/29/2009 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
:-)
am back :-) :-)
na antihistamine you can take for long periods, but not steroids. in fact urticaria and angioedema are rarely due to ALLERGY.note if you get a reaction 1hopur after eating or more:-) iv done much research in this field as I ha actually suffered from chronic UA! it was hard! In 80 % cases (hope your in) Urtcaria and angioedema have found to posses idiopathic aetiology. and the best way to handle it is by using antihistamines.

1. h1 antihistamine (not all of them work well in all individuals) try yours
2. if number 1 does not work, you take increase the dose.
3, if still it does not work, you take a combination of h1 and h2 aNTIHISTAMINE
4. it still it does not work, you adjust it with steroid.. a descendind treatment.

remenber you dnt stop ur antihistamine until ur ok..
but chronic urticaria and angioedema have found to last from 6 weeks to 20 years. fortunately most individuals get over in 1 year.

and the best doctor for this <CURSE> ;-) is none other than urself..
gud luck to you..
any questions, dnt hesitate:-) am here..

spiritgirl
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   Posted 4/2/2009 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been suffering hives now for 2 months EVERY single day. At the moment my fingers have swelled to the point where it;s difficult to type.... and I'm due at work in a few hours .. I'm a typist. lol

The only anti-histamine that seems to 'work' is Phernegan (promethazine hydrochloride). It doesn't stop the hives but it can stop the angioedema in it's tracks. I've tried Zantac and Prednisone (for two weeks).

The earliest an Allergist can see me in in 4 months. Good one :(

I've been surviving on pears, chicken, celery and rice for 10 days (low salicylate and histamine). The hives have been reduced but not totally. And I'm starving. I've lost 3 kgs already.

I've seen 4 different GP's. They were no help at all. One prescribed Doxepin but after reading all the side effects I'm very reluctant to take it.

I feel so isolated as I know no one else that suffers from Chronic Hives. People at work look at me as if I'm slightly bonkers because I have to move away from them if they are wearing strong perfume. The smell makes my face swell.

Zizi
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   Posted 4/4/2009 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
hey spirit girl.

well I'm also a sufferer:-) I;ve chronic urticaria and angioedema since 6months gurl and its darn tough. But I do keep high spirits and fight against it mentally...

Well tke allogenoc diet is a very good initiative, but should be kept for 2 weeks only. The hives will diminish automatically due to low stamine foods, but iof it does not disappear completely after 2 weeks,then stop ur diet. Well in the first place, you should do a thyroid funtion test. If it is normal, and if ur allogenic diet prove fruitless after 2 weeks, which is almost always the case in chronic UA, then hard luck, you are sailing in the same boat as mine:-)

anyway, i recommend you to continue phenergan. but in this modality, well you should go for 1 zyrtec 10mg in the morning before eating anything and then in the afternoon 1 zyrtec 10 mg before meal and before going to bed one phenergan 25mg. zyrtec is in fact the most potent H1 antihistamine. I dnt recommend prednisone at all due to more long term damage than benefits. well you can start taking these right now, but do continue the allogenic diet to remove food allergen as a cause. REMEMBER: the allogenic diet is for 2 weeks only, after which you get back to ur usual diet, with the exception of strawberries and chocolate...

any questions, you can contact me.. Treatment in UA is quite tough, and you shouldnt feel discouraged.. Time is the greatest healer... So keep ur spirits high.. turn nono

spiritgirl
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   Posted 4/4/2009 11:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Zizi :)

Thank you so much for your suggestions.

I have had blood tests done - everything normal including thyroid. I bought Xyzal yesterday .. no improvement as yet. I had a very swollen lip and both eyes yesterday and took 4 Phenergans, 1 Xyzal, 1 Zantac and 1 Zytec. In desperation I took 4 Prednisone. My face is better today thank goodness!

I'll take the Xyzal as you suggested - 1 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon and a Phenergan at night along with a Zantac.

I suspect I'm reacting to sulphites as I had canned pears Friday night and Saturday morning. I had fresh pear today and no reaction. But as you said, I should only stay on this diet for another few days. I can't live on chicken, rice and pears forever. I'm got to the stage where I'm so afraid of food I actually had a panic attack in the fruit and vege section of our local supermarket yesterday because of the smell. My sense of smell is SO sensitive since being on this diet. Why would that be?

I have an appointment to see a Naturopath/ Homeopath tomorrow.

Zizi
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   Posted 4/6/2009 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi gurl,

very bad, you should not eat any canned food at all! you should eat pears naturally, or you can cook it in sugar.
prednisone, as i told you, is real bad but the problem is that its the only alternative in acute phase. Its possible you reacting to sulphites, but its not the cause of your urticaria and angioedema. its only aggravating the disease.
well in case you take prednisone, you should have 60 mg for first 2days followed by 40 mg for next 2 days, 20 mg, and 10 mg and stop. treatment should be descending.

The panic attack and sensitive smell is just a psychological phobia:-) you shud not worry about that. instead you must prepare yourself mentally and adhere to the fact that you gonna get well soon.

well gud luck for tha nature appointment:-) its quite a long treatment and does not work for chronic UA!!!! and one more thing, dnt mix treatments, go slowly one by one, and i'l advise you medical treatment first, then when finally diagnosed as idiopathic, you can try homeopathy. do let me know how u are, and wats in your treatment, Hope work is going on... u take care and dnt forget your medications. if therz not much improvement, i'll recommend you replace phenergan and start famotidine, an H2 potent antihistamine that will work against the angioedema, but keep taking your medicines like i told you for 5 days, and then go for a change if therz no improvement, from phenergan to famotidine keeping zyrtec dosage the same..

and you have to be comitted towards your treatment. dnt just lkisten to any doctor, really very little among them, are in contact with biomedical research and their treatment are usually outdated:-)

be courageous spiritgirl.. therz a long way to go, and therz always light at the end of the tunnel:-)

Georgia19
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   Posted 4/7/2009 3:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone! I've done researches about hives [at night].. and the following are the results that I found:

An outbreak of hives at night is a major inconvenience. If you find yourself up in the middle of the night with itching, red welts on your skin, it is time to understand what causes hives and what you can do to prevent and treat them.

What causes hives?
Hives are caused by a wide range of substances and environmental stimuli. Some common culprits include:

* Foods like nuts, wheat, milk or tomatoes.
* Elements of nature including certain plants, jellyfish, insect stings and animal saliva.
* Things you inhale, including mold spores, pet dander, and house dust.
* Environmental cues such as hot water, cold air, or direct sun exposure.

If you suffer from hives at night, you should attempt to identify what triggers your hives and then eliminate anything that you suspect may be to blame. To find out what causes hives for you, try keeping a detailed account of each night the hives breakout. Record what time it occurred, as well as what you did or ate before bed, what you were wearing, and any environmental factors that may be to blame. Over time, this record will help you to determine what causes hives.

Here are some more factors to consider, as hives at night may be caused by:

* What you ate for dinner or just before you went to bed.
* Emotional stress or anxiety at work or home.
* The type of fabric your sheets or pajamas are made of.
* The pressure of your body against the bed; this type of hives is called "delayed pressure hives."
* Something in the air while you sleep, such as dander from your cat who sleeps with you, or mold spores in a roof leak above your bed.

Prevention

Hives at night is usually due to a hypersensitivity reaction in the body. A trigger causes histamine to be released, which results in swelling, itching and redness of the skin. The best prevention tactics work by eliminating any specific triggers to which your body has the hypersensitive response. Keeping a journal of your outbreaks may help to determine what causes hives, helping you to eliminate those triggers.

Some people who suffer from hives at night take an antihistamine before they go to bed. The idea is that despite the presence of a trigger, the medication will block your body's production of the offending histamines.

Hives at night may respond to self-care treatments that you can do safely and effectively in your own home:

* Try adding some ground oatmeal to your lukewarm bath water before bedtime. Oatmeal has skin-soothing properties.
* Drink plenty of water throughout the day to encourage your body to flush toxins before you go to bed.
* If you do have a bout of hives at night, apply a cool compress to soothe the skin, and reduce blood flow and inflammation in the affected area.

If you need something stronger to combat your hives at night, you may need to try an over-the-counter medication such as Benadryl, Chlor-Trimeton, Tavist, Alavert, or Claritin. For extreme cases of hives, you may require a doctor's prescription for an antihistamine or oral corticosteroid (like Prednisone).

lela82
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   Posted 5/26/2011 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Anna and Z,
I have just started breaking out in the past 2 weeks, I was going crazy trying to figure out what I was reacting to and thanks to the internet and u guys, I finally figured out what is going on with me. I have never had any allergies or any allergic reactions to anything but bug bites. I seriously thought I had a bug or mites in my bed, I washed all my sheets and clothes and it didn't help at all. I realized I was only getting them when I would take a nap or at night before bed and while I was sleeping. I was freaking out not knowing what it was or why it was only at night. They fade away during the day and then return at night in random places sometimes under my clothes, sometimes only on skin that were touching the sheets, sometimes aournd my waist band, sometimes just on my arms and legs, sometimes on my back. It seemed to come out more in places that I had more pressure on or where I sweat. Thanks for answering the question Z. I took benedryl last night and didn't break out at all last night which was a great relief! but then it was so hard for me to wake up this morning. I am going to try just taking one tonight to see if that still helps. I am not on any medication and really hope this goes away. This is really annoying. I am just glad that I am not going crazy and am not alone. I hope this is stress related and that I can overcome this.
thanks
Lela82

Post Edited (lela82) : 5/26/2011 3:48:28 PM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 6/20/2011 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
There are a variety of Chinese Medical Herbs that can help with this problem. I Tradititional Chinese Medical (TCM) theory each person's hives has a different reason. The time it happens as well as the location on the body can give many clues as to what pattern of treatment is required.
The Qi of the body circulates in the Meridian in a certain pattern, for example, if you wake up itching at 3am the channel most likely to be affected is the Lung Channel.
If you have tried everything and would like to find a possible solution, I highly recommend seeking out a licensed acupuncturist.
Take care and be well.

Nicolaaaar
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   Posted 8/16/2011 6:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Over the past three days I have experienced hives. I have no idea what the cause is but I took an allergic reaction to something after getting my belly button pierced, The metal used was stainless steel which I have worn before so I know that isn't the cause, however the plaster used may have caused the reaction. I did not expect the Hives to last this long though. I have been taking anti-histamine now for 3 days, and today at the doctors surgery I was given stronger anti-histamine and cream. I just hope it goes away or they can let me know what is causing it!
Also wondering if anybody finds they wake up without the rash of hives then when they wake up the hives appear and get progressively worse until the next morning again.

Take care x

janmarbol
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   Posted 9/1/2011 5:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I have the SAME problem.. but it's not only at night. Even if I take a nap anywhere it happens... it can be in my bed, it a couch, in someone's house, at night, in the day... whenever! I've been experiencing this for over a month and realized that I had had this since I was little except that everyone thought they were mosquito bites (b/c I get them worse during summer or when it's hot) The other day I ate spicy food and it exasperated the hives tenfold! Someone told me they could be Cholinergic urticaria (I think they may be) however I also have autoimmune (possibly more than one autoimmune disease) and I have thyroid problems. I believe your "allergy" is to the summer, the sun, heat, etc if that... if not, it's autoimmune (i/e/ you are allergic to your own body) so see an rheumatologist ASAP. I have learned that these hives get much worse w/time. I can't even sleep anymore b/c they wake me up and they start going upward (toward mouth and i heard this is fatal)

Also, I get extreme hot spots on my joints mad the tissue gets red hot like a ball of fire and then the hives come! do not confuse the liquid surrounding your joints that gets inflamed w/the hives that appear around them or in other parts (I have both and noticed that they are different)

GOOD LUCK! Let me know if you are still having issues or if you resolved them b/c I have yet to find a doc that will tell me what this is! smhair

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   Posted 9/20/2011 5:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I've been having issues with Hives for the last four weeks at least now. They appear during the night and cover the insides of my thighs. They subside during the day and flare back up again overnight. Sheets are changed and washed once a week and the mattress was put out in the sun over the weekend. I don't think it is a food allergy as even when I have a salad for dinner, they still come up! I am taking two Loratadine tablets a day and using dermol cream but to no avail. I am reluctant to use steroids as I have been on them in the previous year and don't like taking them.

Help, please!

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   Posted 9/21/2011 1:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Zantac is an acid reflex medication. Phenagrin is for naseau. I think you are being prescribed the wrong medications. Red this is in combination of personal and medical training/experience. Also, Zizi is incorrect, not even a simple thing as Benedryl you can take for long periods of time. Because it can damage vital organs in the long run. I think you need a new doctor, and one who knows what he is doing.
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   Posted 10/7/2011 10:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Oddly enough I was itching like crazy in the middle of last night and ate two tablespoons of almond butter and then half an almond butter and honey sandwich with some water and fell right to sleep afterwards. I think the idea that we take a drug for everything these days is just insane. The liver and kidneys are not meant for all these chemicals. I also agree that people need more fluids during the day and also fats like olive oil. Not hot showers in dryer winter air. Humidifiers. I boil a huge pot of water and put it next to my bed. I rub almond oil into my skin. Not a fan of the drugs. I did not have this problem until age 40 or so. Water. Oils. First thing I try.

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   Posted 10/18/2011 6:28 AM (GMT -6)   
How come nobody is mentioning STRESS?! Denial? Stress causes a weakened immune system which in turn can help make you sensitive to lotions/foods/medications etc. I used to get hives, but soon realize I needed to deal with some issues! If you stuff emotions, or refuse to deal with past hurts/pain, your body can do many crazy things in rebellion to not dealing with them. We were not made to neglect our emotions. Any of you that have tried all kinds of meds and outward help, try inward just for the heck of it. I did...worked for me!

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   Posted 11/2/2011 9:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree. Stress is a likely contributor. My hives aren't regular, not related to eating, don't occur in the middle of the night. But the last couple of evenings, they have occurred. My hands start itching first and when that happens I try to take an antihistamine. Give them an hour and they are gone.

I don't find anybody talking about whatever the initial triggering even is, if one can be defined. Several years ago I took Zythromax to counter a sinus infection. I had taken Zythromax once or twice before with no ill-reactions. However, this time I broke out in hives. I immediately stopped taking Zythromax and the symptoms tappered off. But there is some unknown change in my physiology as I now go through bouts with hives. They are certainly worse, more regular during hay fever season. I'll get a weak response sometimes after exercising usually around waistbands or tight fitting clothing. The last couple of evenings, I just broke out. Probably stress. Possibly related to the change in the body going into the evening. Wearing the same clothing laundered the same way, etc. Tonight, before I ate dinner they kicked in so it isn't food. Obviously the doctors know little about this issue. Hoping somebody figures this out. What kicked them off for you?
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