Alzheimer's vs. Dementia, what is the difference?

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UChick
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   Posted 8/11/2008 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I'm from the UC forum, but in this particular instance I'm looking for some information about symptoms of Alzheimer's and Dementia. It's not quite clear to me whether dementia is a form of Alzheimer's or not. My grandmother who is almost 87 years old has gone done hill over the past 4 years. It all started with these bladder infections she kept getting. In the beginning I believe she did have a couple, but then she kept getting them and the doctors couldn't find anything. At the same time all of that is happening her eyes are getting worse. She already had had cataract surgery. However, it's really been in the past 2 or so years that things have escalated. They found out that one of her younger sisters (I'm not sure if she's ever been diagnosed) had dementia. Then my family started to think that maybe my grandmother was starting to show signs as well. We were never sure if the bladder infections were in her head or not. At the start of summer her legs started to bother her and she began using a walker because she was scared she might fall. My grandfather says she is constantly asking him to help her do this or that and now she can't (?) even get out of her chair to go about 3 feet to the bathroom without asking him to help. She apparently hasn't been able to actually go. My granddad is getting exhausted and doesn't seem to have a moments peace even when the lady that comes over 3 times a week is there. What's been happening lately is that she's yelling out in the middle of that night. One night a couple weeks ago she pushed her med alert necklace because she thought a burglar was in the house. My granddad can't seem to be able to put her into a nursing home and although no one in my family wants that to happen things don't seem to be getting better. Right now she is in the hospital where they are running tests to see if they can find out what's wrong. My mom got a phone call from my grandfather and he said that my grandmother called him and ranted and raved that "they were killing her there and she wanted out now."

Sorry this was so long, but I'd like to hear what you all think. She's never actually forgotten who we are or anything like that. She takes so many medications including methadone (for the pain). Also, she's been saying she wants to die because she hurts so bad. It's confusing also when at times she sounds pitiful on the phone and other times she sounds normal.

Thanks for any feedback,
UChick
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Diagnosed September '01 : Remission since July '02
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SnowyLynne
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   Posted 8/11/2008 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at age 57.then 2 yrs ago at age 66 I insisted on being retested as i was doing too good.Well the new diagnoses is Vascular dementia caused from low bloodflow to the brain or strokes which I had one 4 yrs ago.................This is just a different form of dementia as there are many...........
SnowyLynne


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/12/2008 9:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there and welcome to this forum
There is a thread on AD and that will give you the symptoms and all for Alzheimers
There are many forms of dementia and it can come out
in so many ways\

Forgetting is one
Being afraid is another
Convinced someone is stealing or going to hurt you is another

I hope you will also check out some of the other threads and see how they may or may not apply to GMA
I will bring some to top for you

do you know all the meds she is on??

Take care and God Bless

LYN


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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 8/14/2008 5:50:23 PM (GMT-6)


UChick
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   Posted 8/12/2008 10:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I got news today that the doctors have diagnosed my grandmother (officially I guess) with severe dementia. I don't see how it can be severe when the worst of it has just happened in the last couple of weeks. They won't let her come back home and the doctor said she has to go to a Nursing Home, not assisted living. I think night is the worst. She's been sedated because of outbursts and to keep her calm. I don't even want to think about her living like that. The closest family member to my grandparents' home is my uncle and he's two hours away. It's going to be hard on my granddad too and I know he'll be lonely.

Thanks for letting me vent.

UChick
Age 18
Diagnosed September '01 : Remission since July '02
Asacol- 4 pills 3xday
Azathioprine- 75mg 1xmorning
Centrium A-Z multi-vitamin
Took Remicade 3 times, BIG FAN!!!!
Have Taken: Prednisone, Flagyl, Zantac (for acid reflex)


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/14/2008 6:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi
I am so sorry to hear your GMA has to go to a Nursing Home
There are some really caring nurse in most places

Some Dementias can really go quickly thru the loved ones while
Others have them living for years with it
It sure is a horrid dd that does take your loved ones
And cause alot of pain for those caring for them

If possible visit as much as you can
She will know and even if she may not seem to recognize you
Keep talking to her and doing things with her

I am sorry for the anguish this has got to be causing you and your family
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family
PLEASE Keep me posted as to how she is doing

There is plenty to look at in Resources and other threads on AD

and the effects it has on the whole family

I will bring some up for you
Be well and
Prayers are with you
LYN
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Red_34
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   Posted 8/16/2008 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
I know how sad it is to see the one you love become another person that you can't recognize. But know, that deep down, even if she doesn't know who you are or where she is - that she still has a spark of HER still in there. I am not sure who these conditions are harder on, the sufferer or the family members. Hang in there and trust me, I know exactly what you are feeling at the moment.


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Post Edited (Red_34) : 8/17/2008 6:00:33 AM (GMT-6)


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/16/2008 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Red
Thanks for posting
You are spot on
How are you doing anyways

LYN
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Red_34
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   Posted 8/16/2008 7:25 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm hanging in there - no need to get into ALL that is wrong with me! lol :0) But I placed Gma in an assisted living center yesterday. She was very nervous but she has already made a couple friends and I am so happy for her. She has been quite lonely here with us - I mean she had us but she didn't really have many friends. She became basically a shut in and didn't want to venture out to make new friends. I think that was the hardest thing for her because before she moved in with us and before Gpa died, she was very socially active. I feel very good about her being in this new place and my mind and heart is at ease. It was so very odd though to wake up this morning to NO Gma! I honestly don't know what to do with myself! lol


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minmark
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   Posted 8/16/2008 7:48 AM (GMT -6)   

                     FORMS OF DEMENTIA

The following are conditions that exist that possibly will manifest with symptoms of confusion or forgetfulness, or other behavior associated with dementia.

A. PROGRESSIVE DEMENTIA : which implies that there is no current cure and that will continue to progress with futher dementia-like symptoms. These are Alzheimer's Disease, latter Parkinson's Disease, Huntington's Khorea, Lewy's Disease, Pick's Disease, Multiple Sclerosis and Sundown syndrome.

B. NON-POGRESSIVE DEMENTIA : implying that with the proper care and treatment plan by a physician, the resident can recover from these dementia like symptoms. These are : Depression, stress, head injuries, brain tumors, dehydration, malnutrition,strokes, blackouts, infections, blood pressure, transfer trauma, hormonal imbalance, chemical imbalance, blood pressure, surgeries, drug addiction and alcoholism.

Dementia is a medical condition that interferes with the way the brain works. Symptoms include anxiety, paranoia, personality changes, lack of initiative, and difficulty acquiring skills.

Alzheimer's Disease is the most common form of dementia. It proceeds in stages over months or years and gradually destroys memory, reason, judgment, language, and gradually the ability to carry out even simple task.


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/16/2008 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Minmark
I think there is a thread already on types of Demetia
But apprecite your posting
How are you doing

LYN
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/16/2008 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Red
I think you have done the right thing for her
You are a great gd
I bet it was weird with out her there


I bet she will be the toast of the home in
No time

Gentle huggs
Hoping you feel better

Luvs
LYN
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minmark
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   Posted 8/17/2008 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm okay, thank you. I'm busy in my job and in Parkinson's support group in LA, California. Hoping you feel better and I admire your courage and your positive attitude in facing life after what happen to your parents.

minmark

pr glo
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   Posted 8/18/2008 3:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi! U Chick I'm soo Sorry that you have to go through this pain and suffering but I'm glad you found out exactly what your Grams has and that you and you family have found a way to help your Grams and yourselves. I am also going through the same my Aunt is 70 yrs old and was doagnosed with Alzheimers in January 2008 and now I just signed paperwork to put her in an Assisted Living Facility She does have her out bursts at time and her disease has progressed rather quickly she thinks some nights that there are people trieng to get into her apartment and she even blames family stating she has no more money in the bank because we stole her money. and just this weekend she could not recognize her grandaughters baby pictures she kep asking me who they were. It's sooo Sad but we have to keep all the good memories in our herts and mind and do the best we can for them. Let me Know how things are going and if you just want to talk. GodBless you and your Family. PR Glo  

UChick
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   Posted 8/31/2008 12:13 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks for all the replies.

apparently my grandmother has the most problems at night. by problems i mean acting out saying things like "they're to kill me" and last night she called the police and said this to them. it's like she's gone down hill in the blink of an eye. she's not a violent person and this has all come out of nowhere. the worse part is that she was blaming my granddad for her being there and she yelled at him that she hated him and that he didn't love her anymore because he wouldn't take her home. she wasn't this bad until she was admitted to the hospital that week. I know she doesn't know what she does because most if tge time she never remembers any of it. i hate that this has happened to her

i can't tell you what a God-send this website is. I wouldn't feel comfortable talking about all this anywhere else. thanks for listening.

UChick
Age 18
Diagnosed September '01 : Remission since July '02
Asacol- 4 pills 3xday
Azathioprine- 75mg 1xmorning
Centrium A-Z multi-vitamin
Took Remicade 3 times, BIG FAN!!!!
Have Taken: Prednisone, Flagyl, Zantac (for acid reflex)


Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/1/2008 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I am so sorry she is going thru this and you are feeling the pain
I have felt so many times
Dad wanted to be with Mom and now he is

I believe they are happy to be together again and
Smiling down on us

No doubt having a dance or 2 ...........

I am really happy you do come here and talk about this as it will eat you alive if you done get it out

Take care and email me anytime

God Bless
LYN
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