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Red_34
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   Posted 12/3/2008 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Is there a way that I can get my gma to "forget" about certain obsessions she has?  For instance, the ladies at the center took her "panties" (Depends) away because she was tearing the stuffing out.  They bring her a couple at a time now.  But my gma, the way she was acting, was like there was some major conspiracy.  She obsessed over them for a long time and it was worrying her like mad.  Also now, she has this weird obsession - she told me that when she goes completely blind (from MD) that she wants me to give her a shot and put her to sleep.  I had to explain to her that just wasn't an option because it's against the law and considered murder!  But she keeps bringing up the subject and is becoming obsessed over the whole idea.  And every time I see her now, she tells me this - her words verbatum "I have been thinking and it was a very rough decision for me.  But when I go blind, I want you to put me to sleep." My words verbatum "Gma, I can't do that.  They put dogs to sleep not humans.  Besides it's against the law and it's called murder.  You don't want me to go to jail do you?"  Yes, I know the words by heart because it has occured so many times exactly as I stated.  But the problem is with these obsessions is that it sits in her mind for a long time and it worries her to death.  Any ideas to get her to calm down and try to get her to forget about these things?
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 12/3/2008 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Sherry
This is a rough one
Once they get the obsessive thinking going it is very difficult and almost unlikey that it will stop

I might suggest that you do talk to the doc or neuroligist to see if there is any way that this can be stopped or at least halted to a point where it is not an every time she see's you occurence

Everything else I am sure she feels has been taken away from her and maybe she is thinking in her own way that it would be less of a burden for you

Tell her that IF she goes blind you will be her eyes for her
letting her know it is not the same thing but at least it is something........

There has to be something they ( doc
s) can help you /her with the obseesive thoughts she is having

I am hoping that you can find a way to get this resolved
you and your gma have gone thru the wringer .............

God I wish I could be more help........

I am so sorry

PLz email me if you would like ........LYN


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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 12/4/2008 6:41:53 AM (GMT-7)


Red_34
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   Posted 12/4/2008 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Lyn. I have tried to reassure her that if she goes blind that I will be her eyes. But my lordy that is got to be the worse - going blind, loss of hearing and loss in her own mind! But I will bring this up with her doctor and see what he has to say.
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 12/4/2008 8:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes it is rough
I have lost hearing .......and with the fibro fog so much of my memory

I just have no idea what it would be like if we could not see

Your GMA hads lost so much hun and you are doign all you can
KNOW THAT
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Red_34
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   Posted 12/8/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I talked to her doctor and he is going to have a P doc give her an exam. So we will see what he has to say - hopefully he will see her in the next couple weeks.
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 12/9/2008 10:53 AM (GMT -6)   
PLease keep me ( us ) posted


LOL I was just thinking that dad had the weather channel on all the time
'I CANNOT bear to hear the music fromit
Also he was in Beverly Hillbilly's
What a man.....Miss him so
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Bella33
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   Posted 12/20/2008 11:32 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi,

Why don't you just tell your grandma you will follow her wishes and let her have a piece of mind? I think she just want people to listen to her and whether you will follow through with it well... she'll never know.

My mom has OCD too along with her dementia and PD tremors. Her doctor prescribed an anti-psychosis medication which when I researched on the net it said could cause early death in the elderly. Needless to say I didn't get it for her. My mom's anxiety is getting pretty bad. She gets jumpy over every little noise or sound she hears. Does anyone know what is a medication she can take so I can ask her doctor about it?  Thanks.

 

 


tyno3
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   Posted 12/21/2008 8:07 AM (GMT -6)   

There was an older anti-depressant Clomipramine, I believe that was helpful with OCD. I used to work with a client who was given this older AD and it helped. She was obsessed with pulling her hair out. Also, the vets use it (Clomicalm), they call it. I had a yellow lab, he nearly chewed his front paws off from anxiety. Same medicine, different dosage, and of course five times more expensive through the vet. I asked my PCP one day if she could prescribe it for my dog. needless to say, "nope, I can't prescribe for the dog". I was led to believe some of the newer SSRI's are supposed to help with the OCD, I don't know which ones. The obssession stuff is very wearying for caregivers. My dad has these quirks that if I didn't ignor them, I would need to be institutionalized, myself. Daily habits that drive me crazy. My Gramma had some habits, due to her alzheimers, that were bothersome until we, her caregivers loosened up and let her "have at it".Every few minutes she would look up at whoever was there and proclaim "where are the little one's?, Oh my gosh, who's looking after the children?. So we went and got four dolls, aged apart like her grown children. An infant, a one yr. old a three and a five. Plus their various accessories. We would line them up on the sofa. She fussed over the infant continuously. She would try to feed her dinner to it so we got a bib. Then she would try to wash it's face and nearly had the mouth and nose rubbed off. We found another to replace it and that baby went everywhere with her (which wasn't very far, believe me). They did find her in nightdress and bare feet in winter a block away, pounding on the church door. A neighbor called and my uncle went and got her. She claimed her husband was trying to kill her. After that they had to keep deadbolts locked on all doors and hide the keys, nearby. about the Hemlock thing, has your Gramma, a living will? If there was some way to reassure her that all that business has been taken care of and written down on paper, maybe, you could keep a copy or a statement of any sort that reflects her wishes next to her bed, then you can reassure her it's all taken care of, signed, sealed and delivered, see,"just look in the drawer". It's very hard to play into these delusions, you cannot rationalize with an irrational person. Distract them, as you might a three year old. I wish I had more answers.  


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Bella33
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   Posted 12/21/2008 8:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh wow! My mom would ask about the little ones as well on some days. She usually snaps out of it though. A doll wouldn't make her believe it's the real thing though. 3 years ago while she stayed at my sister's house for 2 weeks she always asked for the little me. Even going as far as saying she needs to report me missing to the police. It's the insecurity talking. She constantly goes through her purse looking for money. When she's at the hair salon she does the same thing. One time she got up and wanted leave because she didn't have enough $ in her wallet but they keep reassuring her that I would be back to pay them when I return from running an errand. I read the newer SSRI's are not good for dementia patients but I will ask about Clomipramine. Thanks!
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