Ginkgo is ineffective, what's next?

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Bella33
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   Posted 1/18/2009 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
Recent news indicate that Ginkgo is useless against dementia. My mom has been on it for over 4 months and um.. the first week seemed to be a miracle in the making but then nothing good happened. She seems confused as ever and now even talks to herself.
 
CoQ-10, Vitamin E, and Fish oil was always mentioned with Ginkgo as the supplements to take. Rather than buying all 3 for my mom with existing dementia, can anyone give testimonies of which is better if I were to get just one for her to take. I would love to hear some positive stories. Thanks much.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/19/2009 6:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe in the medications that Neuro's RX like Nameda.........
And plenty of other ones
I have had no experience with any of the herbal stuff and I never gave them to Mom nor dad

Mixing herbal and RX meds is not a good ides

LYN

I wish you all the best.......talk to your doc or her doc
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Bella33
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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
My mom has been on Namenda for over 2 years. She originally was on 20 mg but I can't remember why I had to decrease it to just 10 mg a day. I haven't seen much difference in her mental state by taking it. I think mixing vitamins with medication is ok. E, CoQ 10 and fish oil are not herbal type supplement so there shouldn't be any interactions from Namenda with them. My mom took CoQ 10 a few years back but they are very expensive. I don't know if it's worth buying it again. I don't recall if they did any good either.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/22/2009 1:17 PM (GMT -6)   
There is a chance the med has pooped out
Ask your doc about another med there is aricept and others for this DD
I so so depise the Alzheimers and what it does to our loved ones
No those( fish oil and other things you mentioned) would not interfere in her meds hun

Luvs
LYN
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Bella33
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   Posted 1/22/2009 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
My mom has tried Aricept (gave her nightmares) and Exelon (made her shake worse from her Parkinsons) so Namenda was the only thing left. I think the reason her dose was decreased was because she seemed more confused with 20mg instead of 10mg that she's currently on. I asked her doctor if we can take her off completely since it's not doing anything for her. Her doctor seems to think if she doesn't take any dose then her Dementia will accelerate even faster. I don't think she's right. It's going to get worse no matter what since there is no cure out there.

Her anxiety is getting worse. She's constantly yanking out the buttons on her clothes and look like she wants to jump out of her skin most of the time. I thought of asking for Lexapro for her but it has a problem with weight gain and my mom doesn't need that. Geez is anything simple?

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/24/2009 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
NO hun it just isnt with this DD and many others

Maybe a AD would do her some good perhaps a mild one

Ativan ( benzo) is NOT good for AD ppl at all IMHO and in research articles
Can cause more aggitation and agreessiveness

Let me know how you make out plz
Luvs
LYN
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Bella33
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   Posted 1/24/2009 7:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks. Yes I know. I gave her Ativan and Xanax before and they both made her hyper and gave her nightmares.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/25/2009 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Ativan is the worst IMHO
I have or had never given Mom nor dad either one
Mom had seen the doc once and HE did RX them dad picked them up and she hid them in purse
]THANK GOD I knew something was up and got them away from her
With my wn experiences with the ativan ( was on them as well for yrs) I found I was losing my short term memory thought it was all to do with fibro but als it was not
The ativan played a big part I believe as I quit them and feel so better for it

Take very good care of you my friend

Luvs
God Bless
LYN
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Bella33
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   Posted 1/25/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I had a nervous breakdown 8 years ago and Ativan was just what I needed to fall asleep. It did make me feel out of sorts. I ended up with Xanax and has been on it ever since. I take just half of .25 every morning to calm my nerves before I start my day but then again I'm relatively young.  Maybe my mom's doctor can prescribe a sleep med for my mom. She's been getting up 3 to 4 times a night very night which means I do the same. I'm a walking zombie all the time and needless to say my anxiety is back and I'm crying a lot more to release my frustration of  this never ending cycle.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/29/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
YOu may have to speak with your doc about upping your dose considering all that is /has gone on thats a small dosage
I am on 30 mtgs of valium but I have been on and off of them for yrs
I wish you all the best my friend

Luvs
LYN
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Fibro & Other DD

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                            Keep The Fight Going..Or YOu Will Lose
               Look For The GOOD, Even At Your Lowest
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                                     LYN


Bella33
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   Posted 1/31/2009 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I know my limit. If I increase my current dose I'll get drowsy and then it will interfere with work. My co-workers are always amazed that I can still function with only 3-4 hours of interrupted sleep nightly. Me too!

Howlyncat
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   Posted 2/5/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I hear ya on that one my friend
I had a few nights with NO sleep
Not good

Take care you
Luvs
LYN
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Fibro & Other DD

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                            Keep The Fight Going..Or YOu Will Lose
               Look For The GOOD, Even At Your Lowest
  We Have Anxiety and Panic...................Anxiety and Panic DO NOT Have us         
   
                                     LYN

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