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dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/1/2007 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone,
 
I was just wondering how doctor's know if a person is suffereing from Alzheimer's vs. Dementia?
 
 
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


SnowyLynne
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   Posted 8/1/2007 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I was dx with Alzheimer's 10 yrs ago,but this past December the Drs say VaD(vascular dementia),which caused by less bloodflow to the brain.
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dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/1/2007 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   
My grandmother is 78 been gradually forgetting things for the past couple of years. I was hospitalized a few times this year for Crohn's related surgeries. The last time I was in the Hospital (late June) my grandparents were there evryday. Also more recently she had been on a shopping binge (small items such as stuffed animals, outdoor items ex bird bath (which has fake flowers in it), pinwheels etc. Also from what I understand she had set up the different rooms in her house as different themes ex: a kokopelli throw blanket is hanging from the wall with my "tribal" drum in front of it I also think she has more in that display as well. she bought a few canes recently too she has osteoporosis and multiple compression fractures.

about 18 yrs ago she had a nervous breakdown and has been on Adivan since, also she is a breast cancer survivor. My grandparents anniversarry was July 2 they have been married 58 years. The weekend after their anniv. we had dinner over at my parents house and she refused to eat saying it was constipation but stated that she ate breakfast. A week or so later she went to the ER complaining of dizzyness, being lightheaded etc, at this point she had been eating again. They did a CT of her brain and found multiple TIAs from the past and more recent. They kept her in the holding area overnight not knowing if she was going to be admitted. In the morning sje woke up and was confused to where she was (she fell asleep in 1 room and awoke in another) they called my grandfather he went down and she relaxed.

A cpl of weeks later she was drinking less and barely eating if eating at all. She kept complaining of nausea. On the 22 my mother went to her house before a relatives birthday party and she wasnt great, her brother and sister in law (grandmothers...my mother and I are only children) were there while my mother and father were at the party. After the party my parents went back over to the house. Due to her lack of eating she was barely walking. She had been in pain since she fell the week before and caused another compression fracture. At that walk in clinic they did x rays, then later they called her to go back the next day for another xray, her brother and sister in law took her. She said she had to use the retroom and my great aunt brought her in and then my grandmother asked what to do when in the bathroom. My aunt reasponded that she told them she had to urinate. Then my grandmother said oh yeah I sit down for that right?

Ok back to the not eating. After the party when my folks went back there my mother smelled they keytones on her breath and called the rescue. She is going to be in the hospital until tomorrow medicare said she is stable and they wont pay for her to stay anymore. They did 3 EEGs and on the 2nd one a seizure was noted and now she is on dilantin. She is now off of paxil but still on adivan, as well as another depression med. They started her on 2 more meds as well one is an antipsychotic the other is for alzheimers. Some days she does great eating again others she claims she wants someone to give her something so she can die.

This just made me question what type of brain disease is going on in this case. I wonder if it is Alzheimer's, dementia or due to the long term adivan or maybe a combo of these. Today my folks are out looking for a nursing home even though they saved $ so they could be taken care of at home. We are also having financial issues with them ex my mom's name is not on the house only on the will. Also they dont understand the gifting money to family members so that the other spouce will have $ to live off of they worked so hard for their money I just dont want a nursing home to take it all away.

I went off on a tangent , sorry I do that quite often
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


SnowyLynne
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   Posted 8/1/2007 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Ativan is NOT the best medication for anyone with dementia.It can make things appear worse.
I suggest she see a Neurologist for testing.Sounds like it's Vascular Dementia but then I'm not a Dr.
SnowyLynne


dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/1/2007 3:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I would love for her to have a neuro consult but they are kicking her out of the hospital tomorrow. I dont know if she could be set up with a neuro at the nursing home she is going too. I mentioned the topic to my neuro last week when I was there and he mentioned coming off the meds can cause the seizures as well. She was doing pretty well (although not the best she had been) until her Psychiatrist slowly started to taper her off Adivan. She actually was in the hospital last summer due to not feeling well and it was high blood pressure something she never had before. Just makes me wonder if there should have been closer monitoring of the situation even though she is stubborn and scared for medical tsting...took her over 1 year to get her annual bloodwork done.
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


minmark
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   Posted 8/1/2007 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   

       WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALZHEIMER'S AND DEMENTIA

Dementia means the symptoms of deterioration of intellectual abilities resulting from an unspecified disease or disorder of the brain.The changes can affect thinking, memory and reasoning, and may occur gradually or quickly. Memory loss alone is not always a sign of dementia But memory loss with other form of cognitive impairment is an indicator that dementia is occuring.

Alzheimer's Disease is one disese that causes dementiaMany other illnesses or syndrome can also cause dementia like Parkinson's Disease, stroke or even dehydration. It's a brain disease which affect the area of the brain that contorl memory, logical thinking and personality. The brain become smaller, cavities within the brain containingfluid become enlarge.

more...on next posting


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/3/2007 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
dragonfly welcome
I am also a fellow crohnie and look after dad with AD..........

I would really suggesst getting her into that neuro no matter what it takes to have her properly assessed and dx

I do know it is heartbreaking and very difficult to do
Know you are not alone
Email me if you care to talk more on this plz

Take care and try and have a good day
Huggs to your Grandma .........
Come here and VENT all you want read other threads ect and of course check out the resources at side

God Bless

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dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/3/2007 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
HOw does one go about getting her a neurologist if she is now in a nursing home? My mother told me that she will be assigned a GP there and no longer have her GP who she has been seeing for years (her GP is 73). I am going to attempt to visit her this weekend depending how I feel will determine when and for how long, I am sure you have seen my recent health Sx posts on the CD site Howlyncat. This year so much is happening so fast with my family I sont know how we all havent cracked yet.

Getting her to any docotr has been a struggle more so after her breast cancer Dx back in 1998, she has been cancer free since then but after she was Dx she has never been the same woman as before. Hopefully as she adjusts to the nursing home she will eat again (she decided to eat on and off while in the hospital) she just got there yesterday. My grandfather is going over everyday to be with her and will go to mass at the nursing home as opposed to their regular church. This nursing home is one of the top rated in the state just wish it wasnt $ 90,000 a year or at least for that price her meds, cable and local phone should be included. She has to get her own tv there but at least they supplu a bed and a place for clothes and they do not allow patients to stay in PJs all day which is good considering for the last year or so she would wear her nightgown under her clothes (she would rarely wear pants except holidays she is more of a skirt wearing woman)
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/5/2007 9:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes I have seen your posts and I know to well how rough you are having it .........
I am sure you can ask them to please have a consult with a nueorologist at the NH she is in by making this request to head of Nursing in writing or the one caring for her when you see her make sure you get name of Nurses caring for her.like I said PUT this in writing that you want her to be seen by a Nuerologist I know here in Ontario they are automatically.........

I do so hope she is not on the ativan still that is a really bad med for AD imho as well there are many more out there for her to take
Let us know how you make out

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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 8/7/2007 5:49:05 AM (GMT-6)


dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/6/2007 6:58 AM (GMT -6)   
My mom informed me after asking about a nuro that they will have a consult at the NH for her
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


SnowyLynne
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   Posted 8/6/2007 7:31 AM (GMT -6)   
You can take her to any Dr you choose.Yes they have thier own Dr at the NH but you can still take her to a Neurologist,then the 2 Drs can confer whats going on.
SnowyLynne


dragonfly137927
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   Posted 8/6/2007 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Good to know tyvm for that info I will pass that along to my mom.
Dx with Crohn's 1987, symptoms as early as 1984.
Temp iliostomy February 2007, reversed June 2007, Ovarian cysts, migraines, allergies (incl food allergies) , oral allergy syndrome (diff than true food allergies), Asthma, Gall Bladder removed 1999, Inguenal hernia 1987
 
 


Howlyncat
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   Posted 8/7/2007 6:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes thatys true you can have her checked by a couple and the NH one as well

Please do let us know whats going on

Thanks Snowy once again........
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