Anxiety---Tics and temperature

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Wifeofdepression
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   Posted 2/4/2008 7:09 PM (GMT -7)   
My 17 year old developed tics about 6 weeks ago. She had a temperature, tired, just felt awful for several days then the tics started. The tics were awful. Her hands, legs and head could not be controlled. After mri's and  blood tests they determined issue was anxiety. She is on Effexor. It seemed like it was getting better. Last week a temperature developed (for about 3 hours)and the tics came back fast and furious. The temp left and the tics reduced. Today the temp was back(again for a few hours) the tics came back. She seems ok now.
 
We are going to the pediatrician tomorrow and the neuro on Friday.
 
I am just not sure about the temperature thing. Has anyone come across this?
 

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   Posted 2/4/2008 8:25 PM (GMT -7)   
HI there and I am wondering how long your daughter has been on the Effexor ??
This is the first post I ahve come across about tics and temps with this med so just wondering
I am really glad you are taking her to the Pediatrician tomorrow and I do hope you will keep us posted on what has been said

Stay with us plz.......get the support needed.....
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   Posted 2/4/2008 8:40 PM (GMT -7)   

Hello and welcome...........you mentioned the med, was it started after the MRI and the determination that anxiety was her problem?

Simple motor tics involve only one muscle group, while complex motor tics can be a combination of many simple motor tics or a series of movements that involve more than one muscle group. I am glad your seeing a Pediatician as I have no knowledge where a temperature was involved with anxiety. 

I will be waiting to hear what the doctor has to say.
Take care and keep posting.

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Wifeofdepression
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   Posted 2/4/2008 9:09 PM (GMT -7)   
The effexor was started after the MRI. Before the mri they had her on two meds-guanfacine and a dopamine(I think). After they decided it was anxiety we went to the psychiatrist who weaned her off the two meds while putting the effexor in place. It seemed to be working. The only thing that is different is last Wed the psychiatrist told her to start taking the meds in the am not the pm. To do that the dr told her to take a 37.5 tablet at night and a 75 dosage in am. I am really perplexed. With my husbands issues with depression and ocd, moving, school stuff, I can see why my daughter could be stressed and anxious--although she says she is not.
The psychiatrist has given her a number of exercises to work through problem situations. She says she is doing them and it helps, but the tics are worse. 
I wish I could feel confident in the diagnosis. After the issues with getting my husband the care he needed my faith in the medical system is not very high. I do have a huge amount of confidence in my daughters psychiatrist. Maybe I should have called her before the pediatrician. I want to have her checked for mono.  
 

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   Posted 2/4/2008 9:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Lil sis for your invaluable input as always
My head isnt on right I swear .


Luvs ya tons
Big sis out with loads of love always
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   Posted 2/5/2008 8:30 AM (GMT -7)   

Dear Wife,

Mothers know their own child better than anyone.  If you want her checked for mono, I would do that and the test is quick so you could find out pretty fast.
Your doing great and I know you have a lot to manage so please take time for you.  You are a very important person in you family circle.
Hugs to you.

Kitt


 
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Sharann
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   Posted 2/6/2008 5:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Any chance of getting a neurologist consult?
Just being a nurse-mom who has a kid with anxiety too.
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Wifeofdepression
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   Posted 2/15/2008 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   
We went back to the neuro. He said that this tic disorder is permanent. It may be better at times but other times it will be bad. We have to learn how to adapt and overcome.

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   Posted 2/15/2008 5:45 PM (GMT -7)   
HI wife Nice to meet you!!! I am very sorry to hear that your child is not doing well. I am not a mother yet but i know when a person's child is sick it can be a very stressful time! I am so glad to hear that you are a responsible mother whom loves her child and wants to see her get better.I dont know much about tics but i do know alot about anxiety as i've been a suffferer for about 10 years. I dont know about anyone else but there have been times where i've had really bad panic attacks and it felt like i was running a fever. There are times when i've had panic attacks and went to the ER and the medical staff would comfirm that my temp was a little above normal,i mean not enough to cause any problems but significantly high enough.So i think a person could develop a fever from having an anxiety attack.Also you had mentioned that the DR was weening her off of one med and starting her on another do you think that may be how the tics started?? I mean this is just a guess,but i have read how coming off of certain meds,even weening can cause involuntary muscle movements even seizures sometimes! Has her pediatrician mentioned anything about that? I am very disapointed to hear that she will have the tics forever,hopefully it will not determine the quality of her life! I hope all goes well!!

marthamae
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   Posted 2/15/2008 8:48 PM (GMT -7)   
I am glad you are seeing a neuro. I developed a bad set of tremors....something called extrapyramidal symptoms? from a bunch of my psych drugs. It got so bad I could hardly write or sign a check. I know for a fact that tremors and tics can be irritated and aggravated by psych-type drugs so be aware of them changing her meds. You may to have them adjust the doasges or whatever.

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   Posted 2/16/2008 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Just checking in to see how you are adapting to all o this and are you learning any coping skills to help and /or pass on to your daughter..........

Please do keep us posted you are doing a great job so far and we know it can be so dang hard to see our children suffer so .....


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Wifeofdepression
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   Posted 2/19/2008 10:15 AM (GMT -7)   
My daughter seems to be doing well during the day. It is at night that the tremors really act up. She is tired and cant focus and the tremors just fly. During the day, as long as there is not to much on her plate, she is ok.
We see the psychiatrist tomorrow.

Hopes
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   Posted 2/19/2008 10:39 AM (GMT -7)   

I just thought I'd let you know that my 12 year old daughter has a ticcing disorder also. It started when she was 4 and she has been under a neurologist's care in the past. However she has been dismissed with instruction to return if she gets bad again. For awhile we were looking at touret's syndrome because she began having motor and vocal ticcing. The pediatric neurologist said she would need to have continual symptoms for a year with that before a diagnosis of touret's is made. She was put on medicine which lessened but did not stop the ticcing. She experienced a rare side effect and had to go off the meds. Off the meds, the ticcing did not increase. So she was kept off meds and today the tics are seldom and probably only noticeable to me who keeps a close eye on things. (Maybe too close???? who knows) The pediatric neurologist told us these things wax and wane. They may totally disappear for her or may come back again with a vengeance when she is a teenager going through all the hormone stuff.

I can let you know what matters most for my daughter in keeping these things at a minimum or even at bay-at least at this point in her life. My daughter MUST keep on a regular sleep schedule and this includes holidays and weekends! She MUST get proper rest. A sleepless, toss-n-turn night means trouble! NO CAFFEINE!!!!!!!!! (sorry, I know that it is not spelled right.) And I really mean- NO Caffeine!!!!!!! Eating nutritionally is important also and NO talking about or calling attention to the episodes unless she wishes to bring it up. If I point out that she has been ticcing or ask if she feels like she is ticcing more, she will immediately begin ticcing more. Our neurologist said don't point it out or dwell on it. It increases the activity.

If you are not seeing a pediatric neurologist, I would suggest that you do so. The reason I say that is because they ARE different from adult neurologists in the type of disorders they see the most of. Adult neurologist do not deal as much with ticcing disorders and the causes in adults tend to be a bit different. Our pediatric neurologist told us that he is sent many adult ticcing patients from his colleges and he HAS been able to help them minimze their ticcing. Our neurologist thinks that mild products cause increased problems in ticcing patients and told us to take her off dairy products and see that she gets her calcium through supllements. Now I will tell you that FOR US dairy has not been a problem at all. However the SLEEP thing and Caffeine things is VITAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that maybe some of these things might help your family.


Hopes
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   Posted 2/19/2008 10:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I just wanted to add that when her ticcing was really bad. We noticed that if she was focused on something, they would virtually disappear. However at night relaxing, they would be terrible. Our neurologist told us that this tends to be a characteristic of children's ticcing if that is of any comfort. The ticcing never interferred with my daughters active life. She swam , played soccer and rides horses. She is on a competitive riding team today. I know how upsetting this thing can be but don't despair. (When my daughter was at her worst, it took 45 minutes for a meal because she began tongue thrusting. Eating was a nightmare and sometimes I would go off by myself and cry. She never knew. Sometimes I think I struggle with panic attacks today because of all the health issues we had to deal with when she was young. This was only one of our issues!) It will be all right! Stay positive and think positive and talk in a positive way!

Hopes
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   Posted 2/19/2008 10:53 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm sorry but I just wanted to add another thing. If this is a true ticcing disorder, then I am sure that the neurologist explained that it has to do with the neurotransmitter chemicals in the brain and their different levels.  It is not an anxiety issue. Although stress and anxiety can make the ticcing worse. SOMETIMES regular doctors will jump to an anxiety conclusion when they do not know what is causing a problem. Neurology would definately be out of the regular family doctor's realm. A neurologist can explain why ticcing disorders occur however. I hope that he has explained things to you and your daughter, so that you can both understand what is going on.

Post Edited (Hopes) : 2/19/2008 10:57:32 AM (GMT-7)


Wifeofdepression
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   Posted 2/29/2008 5:42 AM (GMT -7)   
Dear Hope,
Thank you for your posts. Your tip about sleep is right on the mark. It is alot worse at night when she is tired. Daughter has a fantastic pediatric neuro. We really like him. He indicates that she is predisposed due to a family history of tics. No one had tics like this before, but my son and I both have occasional tics. I never thought anything about mine. When this started I did not even think of them as the same thing.
I will try eliminating caffeine. We really increased caffiene since the disorder as she is really tired alot. We are trying different meds and timing to improve this situation. We are happy that she is doing so much better and seems content with the diagnosis.
Wife

stkitt
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   Posted 2/29/2008 7:03 AM (GMT -7)   

Dear Wife,
I am so gald to see Hope has first hand information for you and knowing that you have a neuro that you trust means a  lot when it comes to dealing with physicians. My son had Bell's Palsy and it took over a year for it to really go away but just seeing your child deal with a problem is difficult but keeping a good attitude is wonderful.

You are doing a great job as a Mom and I commend you.  Gentle Hugs

Kitt


 
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