Anxiety and Candida (Yeast overgrowth)

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peacesoul
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   Posted 4/24/2008 8:36 AM (GMT -6)   

I think it's very important to mention that the symptoms of yeast overgrowth in the body cause anxiety and depression not to mention many other symptoms.
Symptoms that can mask as other illnesses.

Stress, diets, medications along with other factors raises yeast in the body. Yeast causes some horrible anxiety.


I know many on this site takes meds and don't want to look at any other alternatives, but think about it, the meds are only a band-aid and can only get you over the hump.
Being on meds for a long period will only harm the body and not heal it.
We need to heal our bodies to get rid of the anxiety/depression.
The body is a wonderful computer and we truly have all that we need to get well, but if the body is "sick" then it's our job to make it better

 

In no way am I trying to lecture anyone on their treatment regime, we all have to go at our own pace, but I've suffered from horrible anxiety/depression my whole life (23 years am 42 now) and I never got well on meds, I only started to get well when I healed my body.
I just really wanted to share and will continue to share with you all how I've overcome and am still overcoming my anxiety. I also have Lyme disease as well.

 

If anyone is interested, I can list many of the things I do/take to try to heal. Some have worked wonders on me.

I went from being housebound for close to year, to working full time, living alone, joining a gym and just being OK.
I've had a relapse this past year due to the lyme. I was on ton of antibiotics which fed my yeast. This is when my anxiety spun out of control again....but am fighting back.

Here are some of the symptoms of candida in the body.
 
Some of the most frequent candida symptoms are:
  • abdominal gas
  • headaches
  • migraines
  • excessive fatigue
  • cravings for alcohol
  • anxiety
  • vaginitis
  • rectal itching
  • cravings for sweets
  • inability to think clearly or concentrate
  • hyperactivity
  • mood swings
  • diarrhea
  • constipation
  • hyperactivity
  • itching
  • acne
  • eczema
  • depression
  • sinus inflammation
  • pre-menstrual syndrome
  • dizziness
  • poor memory
  • persistent cough
  • earaches
  • low sex drive
  • muscle weakness
  • irritability
  • learning difficulties
  • sensitivity to fragrances and/or other chemicals
  • cognitive impairment
  • thrush
  • athletes foot
  • sore throat
  • indigestion
  • acid reflux
 
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stkitt
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   Posted 4/24/2008 8:55 AM (GMT -6)   

Good Morning :)

I know this topic has been brought up before and I know I posted this but I will poste it  again.

Candida-induced Anxiety alternative medicine, nutrition

Some practitioners claim that even when clinical signs of infection are absent, yeast-related problems can cause or trigger multiple symptoms such as fatigue, irritability, constipation, diarrhea, abdominal bloating, mood swings, depression, anxiety, dizziness, unexpected weight gain, difficulty in concentrating, muscle and joint pain, cravings for sugar or alcoholic beverages, psoriasis, hives, respiratory and ear problems, menstrual problems, infertility, impotence, bladder infections, prostatitis, and "feeling bad all over."

According to its promoters -- some of whom practice "clinical ecology" -- one out of three Americans suffers from yeast-related illness, which they refer to as chronic candidiasis, candidiasis hypersensitivity, Candida-related complex, the yeast syndrome, yeast allergy, yeast overgrowth, or simply "Candida" or "yeast problem."

Clinical ecology refers to physicians who believe that exposure to certain chemical agents can result in physical damage, causing multiple chemical sensitivity and a variety of other disorders. Clinical ecologists often have a background in the field of allergy, not toxicology, and their theoretical approach is derived in part from classic concepts of allergic responses. Reference: Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology

Clinical ecology is not a recognized medical specialty. Remember we all come from our own backgrounds and believes so check carefully before you try any new treatments or therapies.

Thank you peacesoul for your post.  I am glad you have found something that works for you.

Respectfully

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peacesoul
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   Posted 4/24/2008 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Right on Kitt....

It's true that many people are struggling with yeast.
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   Posted 4/24/2008 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey, thankyou for sharing that peacesoul....I'm going to look into that!! Great advice and info as always

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badfish
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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
ok, im bit confused. Are we talking systemic candida infection or localised infection. I've never heard of Candida caused anxiety although I can easily see how a anxiety could trigger Candida outbreak. If any1 has anymor info plz post.

Cheers

Fishy
 


peacesoul
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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:42 AM (GMT -6)   
badfish said...
ok, im bit confused. Are we talking systemic candida infection or localised infection. I've never heard of Candida caused anxiety although I can easily see how a anxiety could trigger Candida outbreak. If any1 has anymor info plz post.

Cheers

Fishy

Hi BFish, I'm ref. to systemic candida.
Yeast invades the entire body, especially the organs (including the brain). Yeast keeps the body in "fight" mode and opens us up to disease.
If you go on any health board where people suffer from illness such as cancers, MS, Lupus etc, you will notice a VERY common pattern; anxiety attacks. Most people with chronic illness suffer panic/anxiety and depression.
Of course the reality of illness brings on large amounts of stress which lead to anxiety, but here you can have a person who has never had a panic attacks, all of a sudden getting them all the time. Then of course the anxiety becomes learned behavior.

I'm not saying the cause of everyone's anxiety is yeast, but I think if the body is cleansed from yeast, anxiety goes wayyyyyy down.
 
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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:45 AM (GMT -6)   
nervymeg said...
Hey, thankyou for sharing that peacesoul....I'm going to look into that!! Great advice and info as always

Welcome......I know the devastating effects of anxiety and will do just about ANYTHING to get it out of my life.
Glad I could help.


 


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   Posted 4/25/2008 7:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Just to confuse the subject further, chronic anxiety is known to suppress the body's immune responses, making one more susceptible to all sorts of infections. Like many things with our bodies, this could be seen as a chicken-and-egg situation.

As one with chronic auto-immune disease, I can attest that immune disfunction can affect the body in ways I would have never imagined.
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 4/25/2008 8:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I am a walking testemant to the anxiety and immune system and NUTRITION..........
I catch anything and everything..........

**Sidenote here......Thanks for the great input Lil sis ......Big sis .
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   Posted 4/25/2008 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Judilyn said...
Just to confuse the subject further, chronic anxiety is known to suppress the body's immune responses, making one more susceptible to all sorts of infections. Like many things with our bodies, this could be seen as a chicken-and-egg situation.

As one with chronic auto-immune disease, I can attest that immune disfunction can affect the body in ways I would have never imagined.

So true.
More reason to build up our immune systems.
I have lyme but was also dx with Lupus a yr ago. The lyme may have given me the lupus, no one really knows.
 
 
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   Posted 4/25/2008 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   

I've wondered about the yeast connection myself as I have many of the symptoms. How do you cleanse the body of yeast? Do you need to see a special doctor for this? I'm very curious because I had thought about it even before I got sick.

Thanks


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   Posted 4/25/2008 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Peacesoul,
 
Thanks for sharing this info with us.  I had never heard of this connection before and am curious enough to do some research about it.  Thanks again, you're a wealth of information.
 
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peacesoul
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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:12 AM (GMT -6)   
2long4this said...

I've wondered about the yeast connection myself as I have many of the symptoms. How do you cleanse the body of yeast? Do you need to see a special doctor for this? I'm very curious because I had thought about it even before I got sick.

Thanks

Hi 2long.......there is no dr you can see for this since most dr's are uneducated or don't believe in candida. Unless we have an illness like cancer, they basically think the general population does not have yeast.
What you can do is see either an ND(natural dr) or a homeopath.
I did neither for the yeast issues...I went to the Google Med school ;-) I've educated myself by speaking with many others who have been ill with this and also did a lot of on line research on it.
My lyme dr, who is a medial dr, does believe in it, but she's very "up" on illnesses.

It's not easy to cleanes the body from yeast, but it's possible.
You can get the book called The Yeast Connection for starters. The book explains in detail about yeast.
There are also many herbs you can take to kill yeast. There is a medicine for it called Nystatin, but you would need to get a dr to rx it to you and really, it's not as good as doing it naturally.

Herbs and other ways to kill yeast
Probiotics (VERY important) and not just by eating yogurt. A person should take this once a day in a 6-10 billion unit pill. They sell this EVERYwhere now.
Olive Leaf Extract
Apple Cider Vinegar (not the pills but the liquid). It has to be organic, unpasterized with something in it called "mother". I take 2 tbsp a day in a shot glass with some organic apple juice. You can buy the vinegar in any good heatlh food or grocery store.
Oil or Orgeano (capusles)

Coconut oil (the actual oil)

There is so much more you can take to kill yeast, but THE MOST IMPORTANT thing is diet. Eating a lot of carbs and sugar feed yeast. In the book, it explains it very well.


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Howlyncat
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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for all this info..
HMMMM I have crohns and was just DX with fibro I have a really bad prob with my immune system for sure........
Am going to talk to my doc he is pretty hep on these things

Thanks again

LYN

Peacesoul you truly are a wealth of info ...........LYN
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stkitt
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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   

Lots of info here and great discussion by all.  Glad to see members are open to ideas an willing to talk with their PCPs as well as advocate for themselve by researching the topic.

Thanks Peacesoul.  You are a wealth of information.  Keep posting.

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   Posted 4/26/2008 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks all......glad I could help. I'll keep posting all info as I think of it.

I'm also happy others are open to all this because the only way to get better and healthy is to keep searching and keep trying new things.

Jen


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   Posted 4/27/2008 6:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi ya i did some research into the matter and found some evidence for a link between anxiety and a specific toxin released by Candida which may interfere with neurotransmitters. To get a systemic candida infection you hav to hav a really compromised immune system e.g Aids. Candida is a commensal organism, its presence in theory is tolerated with in our bodies to avoid more serious fungal infections. I couldn't find any evidence for Candida out competeing our own bodies for nutrition, infact in certain places your body releases chemicals to encourage the growth of Candida as opposed to bacteria. In short in certain places your body needs Candida and would be impossible to rid your body completly of it.
 
83% of probiotics go straight through your system. I could talk bout probiotics for ages. If your having trouble absorbing a specific vitamin or mineral for example there a really good idea. If not your digestive system is not broke so there no point in trying to fix it.
 
Im gona look into the remedies you suggested, out of a professional curiosity. 
 


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Looking forward to hearing about what you find Badfish.....
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   Posted 4/27/2008 5:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Badfish, natural sounce probitocs are better absorbed. But they also cost a fortune.
If you take enough units a day, it does get absorbed in good amounts. It also needs to be taken on an empty stomach

Candida is also prevelent in when the immune system is not compromised. Hormones effect yeast, stress and diet.
They are also finding a link to Autism and candida. Change the diet of an autist child and they will flourish. Just ask Jenny McCarthy ;-)

Yes let us know what else you discover


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   Posted 4/27/2008 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   

I am not real familiar with the probiotics...........can someone tell me about these, where you get them, how to know what you need and dosing?

Peacesoul you posted "If you take enough units a day, it does get absorbed in good amounts. It also needs to be taken on an empty stomach"  Can you expand that comment for me.  Thanks so much. :-)

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   Posted 4/27/2008 8:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe this may sound stupid, but my dog has yeast issues. It comes out in her ears and eyes and skin and other places. Poor thing was scratching and chewing herself to death.

I got on the internet basically because she has food allergies. She cannot have wheat or corn.

Well the food allergies connect to the yeast problem because corn and wheat are starches and starches turn to sugar in our systems which can eventually cause the yeast problems.

I eventually found a place that sold probiotics and enzymes for pets and people. I did get her symptoms under control and she is happy and healthy now. These are in granual and liquid form. And people can take them too.

Just thought I would add this.

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   Posted 4/28/2008 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Extract of Olive leaf

Active ingredient is Oleuropein (Opn), which is converted in the body to Hydroxytyrosol an extremely powerful anti-oxidant. Opn has been proven to lower cholesterol levels and and to help prevent heart attacks. It can also help the body to recover from heart attack.

Opn has been proven to aid the immune system, through unknown mechanisms. There are currently trials where Opn is being given to HIV patients in an effort to prevent Candida infections.

However trials in the digestive systems of rats show Opn is absorbed v.rapidly and quickly broken down in the body. This means a high dose is needed to obtain benefits and also suggests that its derivatives (like Hydroxytyrosol) are more likely candidates to explain Opn's effect on the immune system.
 


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   Posted 4/28/2008 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Candida is widespread on your bodies Epithelial cells, so skin surfaces, intestines etc... Its not usually present in lung epithelia this wud be v.serious. Candidia spp. are not usually present in the brain or blood unless your immune is compromised (e.g AIDs or chemotherapy) If Candida is present in your blood you can be said to hav Candidiosis which is v.serious condition which can only ocur if the immune is compromised. Also alot of the symptoms you described in your first post are actual symptoms of anxiety.

By the way after looking into I do think Candida may help heighten anxiety wen your anxiety is bad but i dnt think it can cause it. If i were to remove all Candida spp. from my body i would stil anxiety attacks i would also hav alot more infections.

Finally Nystatin is an antibiotic with a similar action as commonly used antibiotics like Amphortecin B (they bbind ergosterol) if you use as a broad spectrum antibiotic all the micro-organisms in your body wil become resistant to it. You will end up breeding aload of drug-resistant fungi to which the most resistant of which is Candida. In 1990's Fluconazole was given to AIDs patients to prevent fungal infection as a result most Candida spp. are now resistant to it.
 


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   Posted 4/28/2008 7:11 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi guys, I am still looking for the info on probiotics, where you find info on how much to take, what kind etc?

I am always reading where members use probiotics but I still don't see any other info.  I see alot of the CD members use Probiotics and my hubby has CD is why I keep asking.

thanks

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   Posted 4/28/2008 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Kitt, you can go to any health food store of good grocery store and look in the fridge section. Or ask the person working there to set you up the probiotics.
Most if not ALL stores sell these now.

For maintenance dose you can take 6 billion units a day. If you want to control yeast, you can take 10 billion unit a day 2 x a day.
You won't feel a thing. It does not cause any side effects.
It's basically the narual flora we already have in out guts.

It's better to take it on an empty stomach just so it absobes better. I mean you can take it on a full tummy, but just more benfificial to take on an empty stomach. I take it when I wake up or before I go to bed.


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