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nervymeg
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   Posted 7/11/2008 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey all, warning - vent central.
 
I went to see my doc yesterday after three days of intolerable IBS pain, no sleep, no food, double shifts at work and serious fear that it was more serious than IBS.
 
He first told me off for having IBS..it's apparently my fault I have anxiety/panic disorder..like I sent away for it in the mail..but I was down on my knees with pain, "I will take any med you think may help this please"..
 
He has been pushing me to get on an anti-dep for 18 months, but I KNOW they only make me worse, as I have told him repetitively. I have been on at least ten of them and enjoyed all the side effects. So he looks through his book of potions and suggest a tri-cyclic. "That's an anti-dep isn't it?" I asked him. NO - he told me Endep is for IBS. I went to the pharmacist. Is Endep a tri-cyclic anti-dep? Yes. He lied to me. ??????
 
I have no trust left. He denied me valium (you are AN ADDICT) and pushed a really old fashioned anti-dep on me. I cannot get to another doctor as they all have wait lists of at least two months and medical centres refuse to prescribe "drugs of addiction" ie valium. What am I to do? I am so angry, so upset. I did not ask to have this disorder and I didn't have valium on my wish list when I was growing up but sadly I need it.
 
I am sorry to vent but I am in pain, in anxiety and coming from a place that is not happy. I can only hope that this does not happen to any of you. We don't deserve this.
 
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ocean1
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   Posted 7/11/2008 7:15 PM (GMT -7)   

I am sooooo sorry to hear you are going thru this.  IBS pain and on top of it no sleep and extra work plus the anxiety.  No wonder you feel so horrible.  I have been where you are.  I also suffer from IBS and it is very painful.  Is there any way you can get yourself to a hospital ER?  I know you live in Australia and I am here in the States.  Here in the States a hospital cannot refuse you initial treatment.  Is it like that in Australia?  If so, maybe you could try that.  Your IBS may just be a flare or it could have turned into colitis or something and if the pain is intense enough where you are on your knees, you should be seen.  Do you have any outpatient walk-in clinics?  If so, maybe that would be a route to try as well.  It's a vicious circle, the IBS is causing the pain and therefore increasing your anxiety.

I am sooo angry at the way doctors treat patients and their lack of knowledge when it comes to medications.  To blatantly tell you the med was NOT an antidepressant is just DOWNRIGHT WRONG.  It is good that you have a pharmacist you trust and that you asked what the med was.  I also have bad bad reactions to antidepressants and have had all the side effects possible.  I understand your not wanting to try anything new.

Know that you are in my prayers and thoughts and I'm sending healing angels your way.


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M73
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   Posted 7/11/2008 7:38 PM (GMT -7)   
tricyclics are even worse with side effects, what was he thinking?

goodness.

I'll tell you this in the nicest way possible. Get a new doctor. There are alternative medicines. I cannot take SSRIs at all, they cause extreme agitation and mania. My doctor works with that and tries me on different medications.

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   Posted 7/11/2008 8:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm so sorry that you were treated so terribly by your doctor!  Who does he think he is to talk to a patient in distress like that!!!  Do you have access to a psychiatrist?  I see one only for my medication refills.  I take xanax which is also addictive and my doc has been giving it to me for years.  The last time I saw him and told him of my concerns of what will happen when he retires, he said not to worry that he would make sure I was taken care of and that I'm probably one of those people who will have to be on xanax for the rest of my life and he's fine with it...so am I, the stuff works!  Maybe it would be better to find a psychiatrist rather than a gp who does not understand what you are going through.  I know this doesn't help with your ibs, I wish I had an idea of what you could do about that, sorry.  I do hope that you will start to feel better soon!

jordaNZone
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   Posted 7/12/2008 1:26 AM (GMT -7)   

All too familiar Meg...your health system is much the same as across the ditch eyes  I recently found myself at an afterhours clinic..as I felt I was not taken seriously by my own GP - it really was most successful - he ordered bloodtests etc. straight away. (I find the minute you mention Panic Attacks/Anxiety everything turns to custard eyes )

Anyhow, I do wish you well..and look forward to hearing a success story from you soon...sending you Big Hugs.

 

Sista J.

Maree

 


 
 
 
 
 


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   Posted 7/12/2008 5:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Sweet Megs
I would try the ER would they help you out ??

PLZ email me I have to yak with you ...........

YOU are right you didnt ask for this and if he has given them to you in the past he should continue too

I would get on a waiting list asap
I would also see if they have Mental Heaclinics there

Valium is also used to come off the other
Does this dumbarse not know this

Love ya S.I.S.

** either way for the IBS YOU have to have help of some type

I have CD and I know just how bloody painful that is at times

Love ya s.i.s


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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 7/13/2008 8:23:51 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 7/12/2008 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   

Megs Sweetie,

I am so sorry you were treated like a criminal trying to get help by presenting to the clinic.

Go to the ER, 2 magic words always work in an ER here.  I have Abdominal Pain or I have Chest Pain.  Your IBS could be something else and to be in so much pain and be given a trycyclic and lied to is inexcusable.

I would certainly shop for a new Doc, one who is not biased before you even start.

You know I am here and love you my Megs so hang on sweetie and be brave.  Do not give up the fight.

Hugs

Kitt


 

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   Posted 7/12/2008 1:10 PM (GMT -7)   
This is really a travesty.
There is such blindness to these two problems: Pain and any sort of emotional disorder, or whatever you call it.

This doctor treated you with such disrespect that I'd be tempted to report him. It depends on where you live- if you are in a small town and have few options then you can't do that. But, he really needs a good old fashioned spanking and then to be sent to his room with no supper. And absolutely no dessert. That is how to treat doctors who treat us like children!

I believe/hope there will be a revolution in the field of pain management. The moralistic attitudes about "addiction" have our doctors in fear for their licenses and their lives and unwilling to prescribe. There was a horrible article in the New York Times last year that had me in a rage. It was about a doctor who aggressively treated pain sufferers so that they could have their lives back. He helped many people, but he also helped some addicts who faked their pain symptoms. He appealed to authorities when he got suspicious, but got no assistance. He was convicted of distributing controlled substances and sentenced to 30 years. The article has some amazing facts about the use of opiates and the misconceptions most doctors have about the dangers of using them. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/magazine/17pain-t.html?fta=y

My friend's mother was dying of cancer. She was in great pain. She had 2 or 3 months to live. Her doctor would not up her dosage. He said he didn't want her to get addicted. She was such an amazing woman that she managed to laugh about it when she told me the story.

An elderly woman in my family has glaucoma. , as it is proven to reduce the eye pressure glaucoma causes (which leads to loss of eyesight). He said she shouldn't try that because she'd get addicted. As he said this, he was writing a prescription for a drug she had to take every day for the rest of her life, to treat the glaucoma. He didn't even notice the hypocrisy.
The next visit to the doctor, she was careful not to mention the . He measured her eye pressure to see how much worse it had gotten. He was so shocked to see that it had actually gotten BETTER that he yelled for his nurse to come in and check herself. "I have NEVER seen this happen." he said, and measured a 3rd and 4th time to be sure.

Are diabetics addicted to insulin? Or people with all the various ailments which mean they have to take a drug every day? No. But if you are in severe or chronic pain, you are denied the medicine you need.

I won't even start on how I feel about the blame heaped on the heads of those of us with anxiety or depression, or other difficulties. Why we don't just all go cheer up is a mystery to the world, it seems!

In my experience, ERs are now even worse than regular doctors these days, in terms of pain management. In my state, at least, there is a big crackdown on doctors to stop them from "over-prescribing" pain meds. So a doctor who does not know you will be especially cautious to prescribe. I ha d a bad, very painful shoulder injury. The doc kept looking at my tattoo and finally asked me if I used "Street" drugs. She gave me tylenol and said if I wanted anything else she'd have to see all my medical records to see if I was an addict scamming her.

I was so offended!

Anyway, sorry to rant in your rant, but that was a really disappointing story to read. I hope you can find better medical care.
 
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Post Edited By Moderator (Howlyncat) : 7/13/2008 7:10:46 AM (GMT-6)


nervymeg
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   Posted 7/12/2008 7:40 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all for listening and understanding. I'm sorry Maree and it'sokay that you have been through the same thing..it's not fair.  I agree that this doctor deserves a good spanking....or worse...a day living with IBS and panic disorder. That would open his bigoted eyes.  I have made some phone calls and got myself on some waiting lists..but I'm at the mercy of time until then.

I went to an ER last time I had a big IBS flare and all they did was take blood, ask a huge amount of questions, told me off for being too thin and decided they would give me some colofac.  Except they had run out. Sorry, go home now and don't eat any spicy food. Argh! It seems you need to be bleeding from the head or having a heart attack to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry this is such a depressing thread, but I'm just feeling flat and powerless. My wonderful BF is forcing me to eat soup, take baths and giving me massages (no you can't borrow him!) when the pain gets overwhelming. I'm having accupuncture tommorow which usually helps - honestly mad )..so I should be feeling better in a few days. My mother is flying in tommorow to visit for a week :-) :-) and she is my greatest advocate.  Hopefully I won't be feeling as rough as a badgers backside for much longer!!

Again I thank each and every one of you for empathy, kindness and understanding. I know I can get through this with my healing well family. Love you all,

Meg

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Edit:  Megs I will email you re edit :)

Post Edited By Moderator (stkitt) : 7/13/2008 7:09:25 AM (GMT-6)


peacesoul
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   Posted 7/12/2008 8:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Meg, I feel your pain in both ways. One, I had IBS for years and was in terrible pain and two, it took me a long time to get dr's to listen to me before I was dx with lyme disease.

IBS is a symptom of underlying issues and though I don't think anxiety causes it, I do think it aggravates it.
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nervymeg
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   Posted 7/12/2008 8:57 PM (GMT -7)   

Peacesoul,

I've always had a tricky tummy, but I think I got IBS proper about four years ago. The symptoms and flare ups just get worse and worse and I am beginning to believe that it may be something more. I actually hope it is something more, because then I could treat it and not have people roll their eyes at me. Gosh, I'm sorry, I'm in a dark mood today..I think I will remove myself from the boards in case it is contagious! Thank you for your concern, it's lovely having you as a mod :-)


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nervymeg
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   Posted 7/20/2008 6:02 PM (GMT -7)   

Goodmorning/evening/night to all my patient HW family,

I managed to procure an appointment with a psychiatrist friday  eyes   (too scary a story to share for bedtime) and an appointment with a gastro specialist in three weeks. I am on new meds from mr psych which I'm not too sure about. He gave me dx I don't know if I agree with, then again maybe denial? I'm a bit of a denial queen. So good news, anxiety down. Phew. Happiness up. Yaay!

I need a while to process this dx, then I will share.

thanks for listening, as always, you are the best family I could wish for,

Meg


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ekkorose
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   Posted 7/21/2008 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Having suffered IBS in the past (and the occasional flare up now) I have found that doctors really don't seem to care how much it hurts. They look at us like we are bonkers even though sometimes it hurts so bad you wish you would pass out! The one thing I did that helped me was peppermint. When ever the pain started I would drink a huge cup of stong peppermint tea and then within the hour it would be tolerable again. I have also found that with a panic attack comes and IBS attack so I think the two are connected, at least in my crazy little body!

Take care and good luck,
Sarrah

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   Posted 7/21/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey Megs,

That is good news and I will email you later, I have a nasty headache right now but I am glad to see you advocating for you.

Hugs sweet Megs

Kitt


 

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   Posted 7/22/2008 10:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Megs, Hope you get positive results from your new meds and gastro visit. Hang in there dear.

And dear Kitt... hope that dreadful headache goes away PDQ! I suffered from migraines for years... I so feel for you.... A good ice pack and some sleep might help!

Love and prayers to both of you!
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   Posted 7/22/2008 11:05 AM (GMT -7)   
i have ibs and its something i don't want or anxiety, it makes me mad at doctors they look at you like your mental your doing this to yourself when are they going to wake up and see this is a serious illness, does anxiety not have a serious name or what, i feel when i go to the doctor i had before like he in 2 minutes was so willing to throw i have anxiety and then act so uncaring, the one i am seeing now has anxiety so she can relate which is so nice.

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   Posted 7/22/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Meg,

It's disgraceful for your doctor to have been so manipulative about your treatment. I'm glad you've got a Pdoc appointment coming up and the GI specialist soon. I sure hope they give you the proper care you deserve.

percycat

nervymeg
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   Posted 7/22/2008 8:53 PM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all for such kind words and advice.

Ekkorose - I will march out and get some pepperint tea. I have been drinking ginger tea, but it just makes me smell like a curry!

Machelle, I am sorry you have IBS too..doctors!!! They look at you as if you are an infant who dropped their lollipop don't they.

Peacesoul..I'm glad you finally got a correct dx, even if it's a terrible one, you know what's going on. (hugs)

I just hope this specialist can find something..other than a really large invoice for me!

Thanks again guys. I'm going to get through this with all your support.

Meg


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