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stkitt
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   Posted 12/11/2008 10:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Dear Family,
 
This is an old friend of mine and we fight back and forth. rolleyes

“Anticipatory anxiety” is the anxiety one experiences before starting a challenging activity. Most often, anticipatory anxiety is a lot higher than what you actually end up experiencing.

Why do we experience anticipatory anxiety? I think it’s because the panic response is over-zealous about doing its job: trying to locate any danger, in order to protect us. When it can’t find any danger in the present, it looks into the future. Sometimes, the only possible “danger” it can find is something you haven't done yet!

Each time you actually start the new activity – bringing the activity into the present – the anticipatory anxiety fades away.

As you continue to do your healing work, the anticipatory anxiety will gradually lessen.

Some people with severe anticipatory anxiety go into terrible mood swings, have a loss of appetite, and are extremely nauseous when  anticipating social events.  

Ways to treat : de-sensitivity training, or CBT have been known to work well but it usually takes hard work and something you have to keep doing when you feel you anxiety creeping back in.

I use the staying in the moment approach which most of you have heard me preach.

Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow has not yet come. We have only today. Let us begin.


 

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Green Grove
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   Posted 12/12/2008 12:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I have had this problem for quite awhile now. I really used to freak out and faint at the thought of doing some things. Now I have learned to prepare enough to make myself feel as comfortable as possible during the situation (what I'm anticipating), and then force myself to not dwell on it anymore. Whenever those nasty "scary/warpy" thoughts creep up into the front of my mind, I start doing something else to take my mind off of it. This is why it is crucial for people like us to live in the present :)

I really like all of the segmented threads of anxiety. Not only am I learning tons, but I'm getting to know everyone a bit more :) I will keep posting on all of them whenever I learn some more coping skills for each :)
Much Love, Hugs, Peace & Comfort :)
TTYL,
 
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
...I have a severe phobia of Cait being hurt or worse.........

.....Also I love snakes but am very phobic about fleas and Earwigs......

......I have lost 2 hubby's in death and contantly tell Howie I am scared he will be 3rd........

BUT lil sis has been adament with me about stayng in the moment
And for he most part it works

I use to wake dreading what the day would bring
I now wake to a brand new day and get it started

Another Great thread lil sis .....thanks for sharing with us

Loves
Big sis


SAM..........Thanks for sharing and I know you can get past this with baby steps hun

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LYN


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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 12/12/2008 10:05:03 PM (GMT-7)


Nanners
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   Posted 12/12/2008 7:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Oh yeah me and anticipatory anxiety know each other well. I developed this condition because of my Crohns disease. The fear is what if a bathroom is not close, what if I go to a party and they serve food I can't eat, what if I go on vacation and get sick, etc... But I have learned to catch it early and stop it. It took the help of a Skitt, my therapist and Xanax to get it semi under control. I went to the dentist lastnight and took one of my Xanax beforehand and did really well at the dentist. Good post.
Been living with Crohn's Disease for 33 years.  Currently on Asacol, Prilosec, Estrace, Prinivil, Diltiazem, Percoset prn for pain, Zofran, Phenergan, Probiotics, and Calcium.  Resections in 2002 and 2005.  Also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Osteoarthritis. Currently my Crohns is in remission.


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   Posted 12/12/2008 9:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Good that it went well at dentists for you hun
I am hoping CD is under more control.......
Lus
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marthamae
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   Posted 12/12/2008 9:14 AM (GMT -7)   

I get anticipatory anxiety all the time.

When I substitute teach and go into a new classroom, I feel a bit of panic. I do think that's a bit normal however.

I sometimes get driving anxiety before getting in the car. But this is getting better.

I definitely feel anxiety before a plane trip. But I do it anyway.

My mother is a toxic person and I haven't seen her for two years. But I've agreed to have breakfast with her tomorrow morning. Ick. I have anticipatory anxiety about that. A xanax is prob a good idea!

 

Hugs to all.

 


Green Grove
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   Posted 12/12/2008 3:42 PM (GMT -7)   
I do the same thing with my benzo too Nanners :) It does help out a lot with just the knowing it is there :)

And Nikki, I also do not like new meds. I feel like I'm a guinea pig for the pharmeceutical companies :) I think there crazy commercials get me the worst, and then my compulsion about googleing my symptoms. . . That is never a good idea for me :) lol

Love you all!!!
Much Love, Hugs, Peace & Comfort :)
TTYL,
 
Sam
 
 


Howlyncat
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   Posted 12/12/2008 10:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Sam
IMHO it is not a good idea for anyone with illneses to google for info especially ap'ers.......
Makes the health anxiety worse..........

.....REMEMBER

.........WE have Anxiety
Anxiety does NOT have us ...........
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Shia
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   Posted 12/13/2008 2:48 AM (GMT -7)   
Lyn, I like your phrase
We have anxiety
Anxiety does not have us
:)

-Shia

stkitt
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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:01 AM (GMT -7)   

Good Morning Family.............it is the weekend, are you all out shopping or sleeping in today. devil

Anticipatory anxiety is not just the stuff of actors and musicians, it effects many people and many situations. In fact most of the anxiety felt is in anticipation of something. If you think about it a panic attack is often an anticipation of fainting, or dying, or going crazy. The funny thing is that research done on phobic people (in this case agoraphobics) has found that almost everyone over rates the fear and anxiety they are about to feel, by large percentages. So in fact almost all of the anxiety felt is never manifested.

With the thought in your head that anticipatory anxiety doesn't do much and doesn't come to much, what else can be done to stop this menace?

The cognitive behaviour therapy approach is good for dealing with catastrophic thoughts, and this alone can deal with the anticipation.

Some medication such as beta blockers can be used to reduce the adrenalin and stop shaking and the physical symptoms of nervousness. I have seen physicians used the beta blockers before they have to give a big speech. We are not alone.

SSRIs and Tranquilizers such as Valium and Xanax do not really change how you think, although they may be useful to some extent.

The best therapy is experiencing anticipation and realizing it doesn't come to anything, then it will decrease.

There is  a wonderful helpful tool by Claire Weeks, Pass Through Panic: Freeing Yourself from Anxiety and Fear - Audiobook.  It is available on Amazon.com.

If you check on Resources, books on the right, you will find Amazon.com site as you can order from HW and we get some sort of credit toward the upkeep of our site.

There are lots of other good  choices in the Resource section.

I have had anticipatory anxiety for a long time and I still try to remember that I must stay in the moment. 

When we are fully in the present moment our minds are focused on what we are doing and not frantically jumping from the past to the future.

Peace begins with a smile,

Kitt

 


 

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Georgie Girl
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   Posted 12/13/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I have anticipatory anxiety about work things.  Seems like every Thu or Fri something happens that has me worrying all weekend.  This week was no exception.  Many times the anxiety wasn't necessary; other times it was merited.  But what good is it doing me to stew about something all weekend?

Georgie Girl


stkitt
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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:31 PM (GMT -7)   

Georgie

Share with us how you are handling the weekend anxiety 2nd degree to your work situation?

Thanks
Kitt



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   Posted 12/13/2008 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   

Kitt

You asked me to share how I am handling my work anxiety this weekend.  Well, not very good, I'm afraid.  I do pray and I think about how many other times I thought something horrible was about to happen, it did not.  I also think that I am a good person and I meant well so those are reasons for this particular issue to turn out well.  (As I've said before I am a human resources officer and one of the ladies who works for me miscounseled one of our employees; who made life choices based on that counseling.  This is not a good thing.)

Now I'm preparing to go to bed and read, one of my great escapes.

 

GG

 


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   Posted 12/15/2008 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   

Well, I've been working up to this really bad anxiety about my work week.  And it's not just at work, it continues even when I'm home.  I will take my rescue medication this morning and hope for the best. 

GG

 


Georgie Girl


stkitt
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   Posted 12/15/2008 8:07 AM (GMT -7)   

GG,

I know how difficult it is to stomp on the Anticipatory Anxiety.  I am glad you have taken your rescue med. 

You can do anything you set your mind to. I know you will get through each minute of today and remember to breathe.  Stay calm and know that you are a strong person.  A mistake has been made and you will deal with it the best you can.

I will be keeping you in my prayers so today you will remain peaceful and cope well.

Gentel Hugs

Kitt


 

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Georgie Girl
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   Posted 12/16/2008 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   
"Well, I've been working up to this really bad anxiety about my work week.  And it's not just at work, it continues even when I'm home.  I will take my rescue medication this morning and hope for the best"
 
Thanks for your encouragement Kitt.  The issue worked itself out yesterday and then I started being anxious about other work issues.   I can't win --- though I'll keep trying!
Georgie Girl


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   Posted 12/17/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -7)   
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   Posted 12/17/2008 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I am so glad you are going to do what you have to
do to get thru this
There is no shame in having to take meds

LYN
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   Posted 12/17/2008 10:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I think this is what I had earlier today.

I called the hospital b/c my surgeon told me I could find out who my anesthesiologist would be ahead of time & talk to him about how terrified I am of the anesthesia & talk about what was going to happen so maybe I could not be so scared.

So I get the pre-op desk & the lady tells me they won't know who's going to do the anesthesia until they get me into the pre-op room on the day of surgery. She tells me I can just talk to any random person & they can explain to me over the phone basically what will happen, but by the time she put me on hold I was such a wreck & no one could even understand me anyways so I just hung up.
Now I'm thinking I probably just need to cancel the surgery. I can't handle this. I don't know why they HAVE to put me to sleep. I can handle the pain. I don't understand why they can't just give me muscle relaxants and let me stay awake so I can see what's going on in case they try to poison me or kill me. I also think my NS is lying to me about needing to be put under b/c the lady in pre-op told me that the anesthesia is option for my surgery. If it's optional then I don't want it at all, but my NS will not let me have the procedure unless I get general. I don't know. I just hate this all so much.

I'm so angry b/c I have to have this stupid surgery in order to go back to work, but I don't think it's fair that when someone's okay with being in a lot of pain that they can be told that they can't be conscious for a procedure. Maybe I should try to find another NS who will let me do this awake?

stkitt
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   Posted 12/18/2008 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   

I agree maybe you should find another surgeon for a second opinion and all you need is a work clearance from your physician saying you are able to do the job.

I am not sure how work can tell you to have surgery.

When you see a surgeon insist on getting the details on the types of anesthesia, and also you must sign a permit before surgery and if they have the wrong anesthesia you agreed to, do not sign the form.

Get that second opinion...................be your own best advocate and kick the idea that you are going to be poisoned to the curb.  smhair

Gentle Hugs

Kitt


 

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   Posted 12/18/2008 12:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I can't do my job. I can barely get out of bed. I need to be able to walk for my job & I can't. They really don't care how I treat it, but we've tried every non-surgical option there is so I am down to surgery as the only possible way I can treat my back problem. I had too many sick days & was told not to come back until I can improve my attendance record to 97% present and able to work. My alternative was that they had termination papers prepared. I chose to go on a leave of absence to protect my job, but I want to go back ASAP. Being home all day is miserable & boring. I need to get my back probs under control so I can go back & work like a normal person.

I will try to find a surgeon who can do this without anesthesia today for sure. That will be so much better.

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   Posted 12/19/2008 10:24 PM (GMT -7)   

Hey,

I am still working on my anticipatory anxiety.  I can actually say I'm not afraid to go to the doc anymore. . . I'm just scared of the cost :) lol  I actually do have anticipatory anxiety about worst case scenarios if the bills don't get paid.  The only good thing about it is a good credit score (which makes me feel good so it kind of balances things out :)

To deal with my bill phobia, I try to not stress on the bills because it always works out one way or another :)  This is how I'm dealing with this problem.


Much Love, Hugs, Peace and Comfort!!!
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Post Edited (Green Grove) : 12/19/2008 10:38:30 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/22/2008 9:08 AM (GMT -7)   
..........I also am doing alot better with the anticipatory anxiety
BUT I will admit I do have a ways to go
YOU cannot have this DD for 30 plus yrs and expect it to just STOP .............lol
AT least I know I cant .........

Also bringing this back up as MEMBERS asked for these threads

Input plz

If you care....... smilewinkgrin ..

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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 12/31/2008 9:56:30 AM (GMT-7)


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bumping as this was a topic members asked for.
 

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   Posted 1/3/2009 2:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Come on everyone. Tell us about your Anticipatory Anxiety and what you are doing to control this problem :) We all have anxious thoughts about things in the future and some of us have let this become a dramatic problem at times. I go through this and have for years but lately with MoodGYM (CBT) and staying in the moment, I have been doing so much better not thinking the Scary/Warpy Thoughts. Can anyone really predict the future anyway enough to freak out about impending situations? How many times have you seen on the news, "Psychic Wins Lottery!!!" ? It is really pretty absurd when you think about it enough :)

So what is your Anticipatory Anxiety problems and how are you going to fix this issue?
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