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stkitt
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   Posted 12/29/2008 7:18 PM (GMT -7)   
This is starting to show up in posts so I thought we could just have an open thread to kick around ideas on how to survive the crisis and help each other.
The best strategy during troubled financial times is revising your plan for the future and staying positive.
 

It's easy to complain right now. We are wondering which bank is going to fail next or whether gas prices will shoot up again. We're questioning how our businesses and jobs will survive.

Workers are anxious and paranoid as the layoff process drags on for months. And most of us are putting in more hours than ever, struggling more with work/life balance. It is a huge challenge to stay positive.

But now is the time to take on the challenge because negativity is contagious. It spreads through companies hurting performance and productivity. It permeates our home lives and infects relationships. To better cope, psychologists and experts say, we need to focus on positive actions, create a revised vision for our future and avoid pity parties at all costs.

But those pity parties just come out of no where..............

There's a lot about this financial hurricane that we can't control, but we can control our reactions to the crisis and make our own plan.

For the average worker, staying upbeat could be as simple as steering clear of the office water-cooler whinefests. Before you gripe about something, stop and think of one or two suggestions to fix the problem.

So it comes down to we have less money to spend. And we’re spending more for less.

This is where everyone joins in and starts tossing out ideas on how to deal with the problems coming down the pipeline.

Do we plant a vegetable garden, shop for clothing at Good Will?

Plan a tighter budget............your up, what do you think. 

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   Posted 12/29/2008 7:36 PM (GMT -7)   

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   Posted 12/29/2008 7:59 PM (GMT -7)   
Great idea Kitt.  I can tell you I have had to make some major changes in how I live financially.  I take my lunch each day (which is saving me about $15 per week (which now goes towards gas in my car).  I stopped buying McD's breakfast on the way to work completely (used to buy it like every other day) and now save about $8 a week from that.  Buy off brands of a lot of things like paper towels and paper plates now.  Some stuff like my tissues and toilet paper are luxuries that I cannot skimp on though (and a lot of you ladies will agree with me on this one).  I'm just really literally writing down what I spend and where I spend it and at the end of each week look at the list and see if there is anything I can cut out or change.  It has helped.  I now love clipping coupons as well to see just how much I can save - almost a challenge each week for me to see how much more I can save than the week prior.  I'll be very interested to see what others have to say.

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Green Grove
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   Posted 12/29/2008 8:08 PM (GMT -7)   
You can go to the websites of different companies and stores to print coupons also!

Great thread Kitt :)
Much Love, Hugs, Peace and Comfort!!!
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   Posted 12/29/2008 9:03 PM (GMT -7)   
I read the Dave Ramsey total money makeover and LOVE the book. My husband and I were debit card junkies. Our budget was to just make sure we never over spent what came in. We thought we were doing great and had low credit card debt but in reality any credit card debt is too much. We now sit down at the start of each month and write out all known expenses. We each get $100 to spend however we want in that month. If we don't spend it all it is ours to add to the next months. We have saved up enough money that we should be able to get through emergencies w/o our credit cards. For the first time ever we gave each other reasonable dollar limits for Christmas and bought cheaper more meaningful presents for our family. We may not have been able to save during the month of December but we didn't go into debt. The number one thing keeping us on track is that $100 allowance. No more swiping the debit card for a bagel or a beer or a movie or that sweater on sale. It comes out of our money so it is limited and spent wisely. We pack most of our lunches. We each have a small side budget for meals out but we try not to spend it and it stays in our account - doesn't roll over into ours for the next month. I think everyone should try the allowance plan for awhile. I never realized how much mindless spending I did on cheap stuff w/ my debit card. We still use the debit card for our groceries and gas and doctors visits and rx's but most of that is budgeted ahead of time.
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   Posted 12/30/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -7)   
I work in the financial industry. We just found out right before I went out for my holiday vacation that we will not be getting a cost of living raise or bonus this year. My husband and I are pretty frugal already, so we will continue to watch our funds. I am grateful just to have a job, with so many others losing there's. My hubby and I always try to save as much as we can, so we have an emergency fund for the unexpected expenses. And we always buy the best for the least. I buy things I "need" on sale. Like in the winter time, I buy summer stuff in the off season, and visa/versa with the winter stuff in the summer when everything is marked down. Everything I buy must be on sale. I have always been a frugal person, just get a little more frugal in tough times like this. I am sure there is always something we can cut out in tough times.
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Aries8
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   Posted 12/30/2008 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm out in California. Houses are abandoned everywhere. I'm not kidding! Yesterday there was a murder/suicide in my neighborhood. They're investigating whether or not it was due to the couple losing their home. They found them in their foreclosed house. There are many garage sales so people can make ends meet. Many are selling their cars. It's not good. This is the first time in my 49 years that I'm afraid. I've never had to worry about losing my house before. It's scary.

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   Posted 12/30/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   
I know I worry about losing our family farm also. I don't know what would happen to my grandmother and I.
Much Love, Hugs, Peace and Comfort!!!
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Aries8
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   Posted 12/30/2008 4:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been worrying which I don't usually do, at least not consciously. But I would hope you wouldn't worry about your family farm! I'm adding you to my prayers! Things will get better for the economy.

Green Grove
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   Posted 12/30/2008 5:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thank you Aries. Everyone is in my prayers also :) It is sad to see everyone hurting and scared. . . I'm just glad I have a great support system here. It is truly a blessing :)
Much Love, Hugs, Peace and Comfort!!!
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Aries8
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   Posted 12/30/2008 7:10 PM (GMT -7)   
It is a blessing, isn't it? I feel the same way. I also have many more people to pray for now. I just hope I don't leave anyone out.

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   Posted 12/31/2008 9:39 AM (GMT -7)   
It is so bloody sad for ppl to take
their family lives and their own over
this but they must feel there is no other way
There has been 2 here in past month or so

A silent tear rolls down my face fo all that is lost when a young one is gone..........

Here in Ontario we have health coverage and meds too pay 2 bucks a RX and OHIP is covered by gov
I DO have to count my blesings there for sure as my meds alone would be more than 1,000 plus mthly

I cut way back on Christmas presents and I started buying in september of lst year lol

" I swore I would never say to my kids( kid) "DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY KIDS ARE STARVING OVER IN--------"
Well I blew that one lol

I do not like any waste of food or anything ..........

I think it is because I see ppl having to come and get food from the foodbank all the time ( 2 income families yet they cannot afford to feed all their kids.....they dont drink nor smoke )

YES this is hurting us all but we can pinch here and there with everything.........
Make cheap foods for dinner

Have a "Grab N Growl " night we do here.............. lol
Interesting what they eat when I dont cook lol
ALWAYS use leftovers.........they make some really good dinners............

We will get thru it ...........
NOT gonna be pretty but still we can do it ............

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   Posted 1/1/2009 6:07 AM (GMT -7)   
C'MON folks
THIS is so important especially now

Any input appreciated
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   Posted 1/1/2009 7:37 AM (GMT -7)   
I think a helpful tip would be for folks to look at where they are spending their money. See where you can cut back and get serious and cut back. Some things are necessities, and some, like your morning coffee from a coffee shop can be cut out, by making your own at home. Or like Ocean said, start bringing your lunches from home. I too live in Calif and it really is sad to see so many losing their homes. I can tell you though from my type of employment, I am seeing now that they got a little too creative with credit sometimes and put people into homes they really couldn't afford in the first place.

Lets just hope that 2009 brings a calmer climate to our credit markets. It is very common for there to be these types of corrections every 10-15 years, but the credit crisis in 2008, was the worst we have seen in decades. It can only go up, right???? And hopefully our new President will be able to help us move forward.
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stkitt
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   Posted 1/1/2009 8:19 AM (GMT -7)   

Happy New Year,

I have a few tips that I have been practicing..............

I now drive a 4 cylinder car,  better gas mileage and my hubby uses it for all his errands ect. 

I have decided I need to sell my motorcycle come spring and I need to tuck away the money for that rainy day. I have no dental inurance so I have to pay big bucks for any thing I need done for my mouth, now don't go telling me to get the giant roll of Duct Tape............. smhair

I make big batches of chili and other dishes at the same time and freeze extras so we don't have to be using so much electricity to be making the meals...............just microwave the extras.

My hubby, like cowboy, is a hunter who eats what he catches so we have vension year round.

I love nanners idea of never buy anything that is not on sale.

We gave up going out to movies as the cost of popcorn and pop alone is $8.50 plus the price of the movie.

We trade DVDs with our children and Inlaws.

I quit buying bottle spring water..........we have a well.  Maybe I should start selling............lol.

Use you imagination and read here for more ideas.

Hugs at ya

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   Posted 1/1/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
We've cut back on going out, and I don't grab McD on my own any more. Also planted a big veggie garden this summer, and now I'm glad we did. Getting ready to sell a few things on eBay or a yard sale, or just donate them to Goodwill so that less fortunate folks can make use of them.

Taking better care of the cars, so that little things don't turn into big, expensive ones.

Basically, trying not to waste so much money, space, and time.

percycat

Green Grove
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   Posted 1/1/2009 12:06 PM (GMT -7)   
You all are doing great I think. We have been doing many of the same things ourselves. . . plus restocking the farm :) I like so many of your ideas and actions! It gives me more hope that the people I care about "will" be okay one way or another :)
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   Posted 1/1/2009 1:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, after getting caught up in the myriad of spiderwebs that are credit cards while I was in college, I have steered clear of them ever since. I think the way those companies do business is unethical and a number of things they do should be against federal law. Soon they may be, too.

If you're in too deep, obviously you need to discuss it with a lawyer first but don't be ashamed of filing bankruptcy. They structure your debt in such a way that they can milk you forever...you'd have a hard time paying it off if you truly are in too deep.

Anyway, since the post-college aftermath I've been on a pay-as-I-go system and it's worked out very well for me. I obviously do have a car loan, but my payments are low as I purchased a six-month old used car and put a lot down on it. If you need to buy a car, do your best to find a good used one. Depreciation on new cars makes them a horrible investment. You'll save a lot of money buying used if you're careful about what you buy. And it goes without saying that you shouldn't buy another car unless you really need one -- meaning that you're about to put a $2000 transmission in a 10 year old Mitsubishi. That doesn't make sense. Trade it in and spend the transmission money on a down payment for a good used car that gets good mileage and is a reliable make and model.

If you still have a job (most of us do...it's not THAT bad out there), you may consider doing what I've done, and that is move your money into a higher yield money market account as opposed to more risky instruments or low-yield savings accounts. I went with ING Direct. Money market accounts are FDIC insured. And it's worth noting that a lot of people are buying T-bills and treasury bonds right now. But the money market accounts are very fluid. Check them out, but don't necessarily go with the bank that is offering the highest rate. Customer service is important! Also search the web for promotions. Before I opened my ING account I searched for promotions and got a code from a website. ING gave me $25 and whoever ran the site got something, I'm sure. Other banks besides ING do this kind of thing.

That's about all the food for thought I can give really. Anytime you buy something, ask yourself if you really need it. Should do that in good economic times, too! Save your money!
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   Posted 1/1/2009 4:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I did not want to think of getting rid of the ole Harley BUT I have NO choice
it is time........Love big sis  
Cait is going to school and I am going to pay for it and make her dream come true
NEVER used credit cards and never will saw the damage mom had made with hers

Nanners spot on
Pack a lunch and use a reuseable bag if ya have one
Make goodies or snacks at hoome for lunches taste better anyways IMHO

I have REALLY cut way back in spending and I make sure I have monies in back before pay from Howie goes in each week just so I know we are covered in case of emergency

IT is a must
They got thru it in the great depression and we shall too .........

Keep the faith all

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/1/2009 4:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey lil sis
I DO my shopping at Goodwill or Sally Ann and I get dang good looking clothes at good prices too

I maker sure ALL bills are paid in full and money is left over ..........
I dont want nor need collections at my door .........

GREAT THREAD lil sis
Love
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   Posted 1/2/2009 6:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I hit the thrift stores and try to get as much as possible from discount stores. I also make a menu for the week and shop for groceries based on the menu...VERY HELPFUL. I've decided to give up my massage membership now that I have a massage chair (Christmas gift) and switch to glasses and wear contacts sparingly. The massages and glasses will save me over $1,000.00 a year. My husand and I have decided to eat out 2 meals a week (usually a lunch and our Saturday date night dinner. We purchased an entertainment coupon book and frequent sites where you can buy gift certificates for local restaurants for 50% off.

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   Posted 1/2/2009 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Smart use of the your thread Kitt. . . Gave me an idea on a couple of mine to save bandwidth and storage :)
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   Posted 1/3/2009 12:26 PM (GMT -7)   
Mental health issues related to the economy:

Pay attention to your own economic experience. Don’t get caught up in the news, or in sensational headlines. Take stock of your personal finance situation. Chances are that it is better than the news shows would have you believe. So, don’t watch the news all the time, and take what you do watch with a grain of salt. Do what you can to prepare for the future and shore up your personal finance situation.

Give of yourself. Spend time volunteering and helping others. Keeping busy by getting out of yourself can help you feel better.

Spend more time with family and friends. Instead of spending money, spend time. Family activities and spending time with friends can help you feel better, and it does not have to be expensive. Your relationships are more important than material things.

Talk to a professional. Often, getting help creating a plan can give you confidence about where you are headed financially. A financial planner or credit counselor can help you create a plan to  get your spending under control or reallocate your assets so that you feel more comfortable with where they are at.

Make an effort to take care of yourself physically. Some reactions to anxiety and stress can include emotional eating (my problem), lack of motivation, return to addictions (smoking, heavy drinking, etc.) and even over spending (”shopping therapy”). Try to exercise each day, and follow reasonably healthy habits. This will help you keep your body in shape as you work through your economy related issues.

Can you think of anything that would help with anxiety brought on by the economy?

I know you can................

Hugs

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   Posted 1/3/2009 12:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey Dear Kitt :)

I agree with you 100% about not watching the news for one. Ever since 9-11 I can not watch the news too much because it just throws me into so many emotions, one of them being anger which is not good at all. And I also spend my time keeping busy so I don't focus on the bad things. When them Scary/Warpy Thoughts come knocking on my door I recognize them for what they are and then tell them to hit the road running. It works for the most part, lol :)

As far as the economy is concerned, I feel that most everyone is stronger than they give themselves credit for. As long as we have a roof over our heads and food to feed our families, then we are doing better than most. There are millions the world over that actually have this real problem. I know I also worry about the economy, but I do know that I am a survivor and will do what it takes to take care of all those I love :)

May peace and prosperity be with you all!!!
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   Posted 1/4/2009 3:18 PM (GMT -7)   
GREAT input Lil sis and very awesome and well founded advice

Take it too heart ppl

LoVE the ideas here

LOve big sis
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