heart palpitations, is it anxiety? hormones? thyroid? or food allergies?

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tiredallthetime
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi.  i am a new member.  i was looking up anxiety and ovulation.  i have found the past couple months that i am having heart palpitations around the time of ovulation.  i am going crazy trying to figure out what is going on with me.  have been to the doctors everything is normal.  thyroid is on the up but stillin the normal range.lol.lol.lol. 
 
i have been having these episodes of racing heart beat.  i feel like i can feel my pulse in my ears and forehead.  getting headaches.  i feel like i am shaking on the inside to the point where my teeth chatter just abit. 
 
these are very consuming sensations.  i think my doc. thinks i am crazy.  gyn says they dont check hormones unless having symptoms of menopause.  well i am having symptoms of something.
 
think maybe i may be allergic to soy.  had an episode after i ate something with soy.  my allergies have been heightened the last few months.  getting ready to make an appointment with an allergist.
 
just going crazy and need to vent.
god bless.

Aries8
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   Posted 3/5/2009 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Welcome, Tiredallthetime! I can totally relate with the palpitations. I get the heart racing but mostly my heart feels like it's skipping beats. For some reason it doesn't help much when docs tell us nothing is wrong. We're still having the palpitations and it frightens us.

All your symptoms sound like anxiety. I'm not a doctor but they fall under the symptoms of general anxiety disorder. Do you take any medications? I would give it time and do self care at home before going on something like a beta blocker. I started a beta blocker and they help a lot. But give it time. Stop all caffeine, sugar and junk food. My palpitations are worse before that time of the month, also.

Lastly, seeing an allergist sounds like a good idea. It may very well be that the soy is causing your problems. E-mail me if you like and we'll compare notes! Stay calm and rest!
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   Posted 3/5/2009 12:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Welcome
I am sorry I cannot help ya on this one
but it sounds like you have gotten some
good advice and input from
Aries
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Plz check resources and back pages for info

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tiredallthetime
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   Posted 3/5/2009 4:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks to everyone who responded today. It is reassuring that i am not alone in this ordeal. Seems more common than not, especially the lack of concern from the medical field. I feel stupid when all they say is everything is normal. I do find the anxiety is worse when i consume alot of sugar. I have cut the caffiene in half. I only drink 2 cups and it is half regular half decaf. Now I will cut it back a bit more. One thing at a time, cant have caffiene withdrawl too...lol. Anyway, I have been keeping track the past couple of days with what i have eaten and there is definately soy ingredients there...in whole wheat bread...who knew. anyway, going to an allergist wednesday.

it is definately a scary feeling when your heart pounds and jump or flutters. we have been eating crummy lately. husband was off of work for a few days and we were out alot. i should have known better.

well, thanks for listening.

also, i have been seeing a social worker regarding the anxiety. she is helping me let go of the worrying that is out of my control. i have only had two visits so far so lets see where that goes as well. baby steps. if anything, it helps to talk to someone and they listen without judgements.

take care everyone.

RoseA
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   Posted 3/14/2009 7:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi, tiresallthetime! My name is Rose. I can relate with your situation, SOOOO MUCH. But my symptoms are all because of my acute anxiety disorder, and i also suffer from panic attacks. But i know what you mean, when you wake up very very nervous, your shaky, your heart is pounding so hard that you can feel it through out your upper body, and your teeth are clinched together, or somewhat grinding. Its scary for me when this happens. But i notice this only happens to me when my anxiety is very bad. Its so hard to relax when this is going on with your body acting this way. BUt you hace to try your hardest to concentrate on something else. Try getting dressed, and leaving the house ,to do something that you enjoy. I also recommend Valerian root extract, one before you go to sleep, and one right when you get up in the morning. I hope i have helped , even a little. Have a blessed day! ,Rose

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   Posted 3/14/2009 8:15 AM (GMT -7)   
tiredallthetime

Hey there and Welcome to HealingWell, this is Kitt and I am so glad you have found us. You will find the members very kind and extremely caring.

Many people have the heart palpatations and yes they are scary. Try to stay in the moment and know you are ok. Do not let the anxiety rule. You are the boss so kick that anxiety to the curb.

Hugs my new friend
Kitt

constantlytired
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   Posted 5/6/2009 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   

Hello tiredallthetime:

 

I have the exact same thing - when I am ovulating my heart pounds then stops or flutter or jumps - It is very scary and quick.  This cycle has been harder - I believe it is realted to hormones.  I have been constantl;y tired lately. I just turned 40 and I don't know who to see - maybe it's just a new phase of the hormone cycle - oh joy.  Have you received any other input that was helpful?  Anxiety I believe is caused by the palpitations or flutter nto the reverse.  I know it is directly related to my ovulation cycle.  I get bad pms.  I wish there were more studies on hormones.


nellebutter
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   Posted 5/7/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -7)   
hi Tiredallthetime, and welcome to the AP forum I definetly know what you are going through and i just wanted to suggest a book that might help its called "Its My Ovaries Stupid" by Elizabeth L. Vilet M.D. someone in another forum suggested it to me and thought I should tell other people who I think may benefit from this. The Dr. who wrote this book speaks alot about hormones, hyperthyroidism, hypothyroidsm,palpitations and anxiety. Im still reading it but it is quite informative. I hope this helps.
This too shall pass...


pinkfishbeach
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   Posted 1/29/2010 7:50 PM (GMT -7)   
Try Magnesium Malate or Magnesium Glycinate for heart palpitations. Most people are deficient in magnesium. It can also help with anxiety and sleep.

justwannafeelgood
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   Posted 10/21/2010 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi gang!
It looks like its been awhile since anyone has added to this thread but I wanted to say that I find it extremely comforting to see that so many other people experience the same things as I do with my heart.  I hate that we have these thumping feelings but its nice to know Im not alone!
 
I am new here and very thankful that I found this site while searching for answers to my heart woes.  Would love to add my experiences...but dont know if anyone would see this as no one has posted in awhile.  I will check back maybe tomorrow and see if there is anyone out there to "listen" or just to hear me "vent" about how annoyed I am with my quality of life while dealing with the skipped beats!! 

SnowyLynne
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   Posted 10/21/2010 10:27 PM (GMT -7)   
If you are under stress these same things happen.....Laugh your way to better health.......
SnowyLynne

cln777
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   Posted 10/22/2010 7:48 AM (GMT -7)   
HI and Welcome, I think what you're experiencing is anxiety, I used to get the heart palpitations mostly in the mornings now I'm on medication at it has help but I still get some symptoms. Doctors will tell you there's is nothing wrong because like my dr told me it's not physically like thyroid or hormones it's your mind feeling that you're in danger and anxiety is the response to that. Although I was like you thinking it was my hormones, but my gyn said it was not that. I will suggest you not to be scared as these symptoms will not harm you and try to breathe in hold it for 3 sec and breath out, also relax your muscles as much as you can and talk to them... yes talk to your body saying that it's ok youre not in danger.. I know it sounds weird but my therapist recommended this and it works! good luck

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   Posted 10/22/2010 8:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello and Welcome to the Forum, justwannafeelgood
 
I am glad you found us and please do keep on talking to us.  Please  feel comfortable sharing your feelings with us here in the forum as we know where your coming from and what your going through. 
 
You will find the members here warm and kind, wise and wonderful so post away and we will do our best to support you.
 
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justwannafeelgood
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   Posted 10/22/2010 3:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Ahhhhhh....a peaceful day...finally!!  (knock on wood!).  The past 6 days have been spent taking klonopin and sleeping my life away.  Ive been dealing with this heart stuff for 15 years...it just suddenly started one day.  Ive had tests like everyone else here and they come back negative...sometimes I wish they could find something so they can fix it and make this go away!  Yes, Ive been told its stress and anxiety.  I take Toprol, Lexapro, and when its real bad I throw in a klonopin.  Tired of being tired and the klonopin knocks me out.   I must not be very good at dealing with stress, but I have to say, I dont dwell on the bad things going on in my life so how else is someone suppose to deal with stress?  This is a stress driven world we live in.  I have been through a lot and continue to do so and people tell me how strong a person I am.  Sometimes I get tired of hearing that because I must not be too strong if inside Im miserable because of what the supposed stress is doing to my heart.  Gee, Im sorry for ranting...I just want to feel good again.  I try to do things to take my mind off the skipping of beats, but it just makes my body tired and unmotivated.  Every time it skips which is several times a minute, I feel it, and it gives me a head rush.  My Gyn told me years ago that before my monthly cycle it would get worse because of hormones.  I was already noticing that, but wanted to hear what he had to say.  I dont feel it every day, it comes and goes as it pleases.  It may last several days then stop for a couple weeks, etc.  Last night, I talked to the pharmacist because Im at the age of peri-menapause and was told that hormone changes do many things to the body...without saying maybe this is why my heart is skipping more.  Anyway, I purchased some over the counter hormone replacement to see if it would help and took my first pill last night.   Now maybe this is all in my head...but today I actually feel better...havent felt but just a couple skips.  Will pray for this to continue even for one more day!!  Thanks for listening and I hope to be able to vent to you guys again!  Please continue to share your experiences, it truly does help to know that there are other people that "are crazy", "it's all in your head", "there is nothing wrong with you", etc.  Tee Hee!  At least thats what Im told about myself!!!

Fugs
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   Posted 10/22/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
justwannafeelgood said...
This is a stress driven world we live in. I have been through a lot and continue to do so and people tell me how strong a person I am. Sometimes I get tired of hearing that because I must not be too strong if inside Im miserable because of what the supposed stress is doing to my heart.


Someone once told me that maybe I'm "too strong". I agree with that idea that our challenges in life can make us stronger, help us grow, and mold us into better people. At the same time that's only if we're willing to see it that way and not simply as "another hassle". Anyway... I thought it was interesting when someone told me that I was "too strong" and that's why I "needed" to be hit with such intense panic attacks. I used to feel like I could and/or should handle everything on my own. I wanted others to come to me for help, but never asked for help myself. I insisted on being overly independent. Now I realize I took things too far and am trying to be more willing to accept help and less insistent on being so independent. Instead of there being helpers and helpees, we should all be helping each other because we all have different and unique strengths and weaknesses. Anyway, that was just a thought that came to mind when I read your post.

Oh and by the way, you mentioned the hormone thing and the person that started this post last year mentioned eating a lot of soy. If you (or anyone else reading this) didn't already know this soy has something in it called phytoestrogens. With "phyto" meaning plant based, this essentially means that soy is a natural source of (plant based) estrogen. I gave a lecture on this once. I forget the numbers (so I may be off a little) but in America approximately 55% of women experience the traditional symptoms of menopause (hot flashes and the like), while only approximately 3-7% of women in Southeast Asia experience the same symptoms. The difference has been attributed to their diets and specifically the higher levels of soy in the diets of women from Asian countries. I don't have the source on hand, but it was certainly an interesting cross-cultural study.

justwannafeelgood
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   Posted 10/22/2010 5:36 PM (GMT -7)   
Fugs, I so appreciate your response.  First about soy...I have read pros and cons, allergic reactions, etc. and wondered if it was a good thing or not.  After talking with the pharmacist, I figured I might as well give it a try.  Today was a good day after taking just one pill, but I spoke too soon, as while having supper tonight it started skipping again.  (which happens a lot when I eat...go figure).  It has settled down again but the anticipation of when its going to start again sometimes gets the best of me.  Anyway, hopefully there is something to this soy stuff as a hormone supplement and in time it will ease it some.
 
As far as being "too strong"...I never looked at it that way.  You have a point.  I have been a single mom to 3 boys since my youngest was 1.  He is now 17.  Their father was never much in the picture after we divorced so it was all up to me.  I had/have tremendous help from my mother (thank God for her), but for the most part I have taken on the role of mother and father.  When something needed to be done to the house...I did it (changing out the toilet, using a chain saw to cut up branches that fall from the trees, climbing up on the roof to clean gutters or get toys, all the inside chores, etc).  I would rather do things myself than to ask for help.  If I didnt know how to do something, I learned so I coud do it.  My 3 guys could probably help a lot more than they do...my fault...if they dont do it when I ask, I just went ahead and did it.  Impatient???!!!  My oldest works now and is hardly home, my middle is in college at Purdue, and my youngest is still in high school and very involved in sports so he is always at a practice.  So its just easier to do things myself.  I got laid off from my job of 25 years in Sept 09 and have had no luck in finding work....therefore no insurance.  So Im trying to do work at home things to make extra money in case of emergency.  My kids have insurance through their father...thank God for that...but I do worry when I get these episodes that my heart is gonna decide to get tired of this as well and just stop beating!!!   With no insurance, I guess I will just have to croak.  In those respects, yes, I guess Im too strong.  But it is a way of life for me and I thought I had adjusted to it...I would think my heart would adjust to it as well since it is a part of me.  Does that make sense?! 
 
Okay...getting back to the soy.  Do you think there are more pros than cons?  Do you think hormonal changes affect the heart and contribute to the palpitations.  Or do you think every bit of it is stress and anxiety?  All this sporadic thumping cant be good for the heart and possibly other organs...wont it wear it down eventually?  Do you think this is a forever thing or that it will go away someday? (hopefully before I die so I can enjoy life more!!)  I know you cant answer all these questions but if you could give your personal opinion on some of them that would be appreciated.  Well, time to go...Ive said enough for tonight.  Tune in tomorrow night for the next chapter!!!  See....I do try to make light of all this!!

Fugs
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   Posted 10/24/2010 8:22 PM (GMT -7)   
justwannafeelgood said...
Fugs, I so appreciate your response.


You're most certainly welcome. It makes me feel great whenever I can help someone even in some small way.

justwannafeelgood said...
As far as being "too strong"...I never looked at it that way.... But it is a way of life for me and I thought I had adjusted to it...I would think my heart would adjust to it as well since it is a part of me.


I think that's the way it happens. Without you consciously realizing it taking on all that responsibility becomes a way of life. I won't repeat everything, but look at how many things you just wrote about. I'm sure there are plenty of others you didn't mention as well. But what were you going to do... let your kids fend for themselves? Have a toilet that doesn't work? You did what you felt you had to do given the available options at the time. For that don't beat yourself up. At the same time, your kids are older now and just as you were there for them maybe now they need to be there for you. Obviously if one is away at college there may be less around the house stuff that he can help with during the academic year. But you know them and you know their strengths. Maybe one is good at research and can help find low-cost or free medical and/or counseling services. Another may be more mechanical and can help with some of the around the house chores that will only become more difficult as you get older (fixing something, putting boxes in an attic, mowing the lawn...). It doesn't have to be anything major. Even small acts of help can lighten your workload and thus your stress levels (with responsibility comes the stress of "having" to get things done - and you've been doing it ALL yourself.)

justwannafeelgood said...
Okay...getting back to the soy. Do you think there are more pros than cons? Do you think hormonal changes affect the heart and contribute to the palpitations. Or do you think every bit of it is stress and anxiety? All this sporadic thumping cant be good for the heart and possibly other organs...wont it wear it down eventually? Do you think this is a forever thing or that it will go away someday? (hopefully before I die so I can enjoy life more!!) I know you cant answer all these questions but if you could give your personal opinion on some of them that would be appreciated. Well, time to go...Ive said enough for tonight. Tune in tomorrow night for the next chapter!!! See....I do try to make light of all this!!


First, I would say keep up the positive attitude. A positive attitude won't make the anxiety disappear, but it will certainly help. There is no reason why the rest of your life can't be enjoyable. As far as hormonal changes relating to heart palpitations.... I don't know. I don't have a medical background and I honestly have no idea. I do believe that it's certainly possible that it could be all related to stress. You have a lot going on being out of work, worrying about your health now, still raising three boys, stressing about money (food, tuition, etc.), being a single parent, keeping up the house...

It's my opinion that we as humans are very strong and adaptable. We can adjust to many situations (just as you did following your divorce). At the same point we all have our breaking points. I was working three part-time jobs and still not paying the bills, having structural issues with an apartment I was in, neighbors being arrested, feeling that I was going nowhere in terms of a relationship or a career... I handled it well for over a decade. Then we had a death in the family and I moved in to take care of the house and get away from the structural issues of the apartment. Suddenly I was commuting further to jobs I didn't like, I was in a new and not so safe neighborhood, I felt extremely alone and isolated, etc. It was then that my anxiety peaked and I realized I needed to make some changes. I could've handled any one of those issues or the ten other issues I left out - but when they all come down on you at once it becomes overwhelming and the anxiety can be your body's way of crying out for help. Even just acknowledging that and talking or writing about those feelings would reduce my physical symptoms of anxiety. Though counseling is far more beneficial and something I recommend to everyone.

Is this a forever thing? Well, different people will have different answers to that one. My own view is that you can overcome anxiety and stop having panic attacks, but that it may still continue to be a part of your life. It may go into remission for years and years, but if enough or the right stressors come up down the road you might find the anxiety returning. Hopefully though at that point you'll be in a better place to address it, no longer afraid of panic attacks, knowledgeable about how to handle them, how to reduce anxiety, and calm yourself down, etc.

about the soy, it's like anything else in that there are benefits but it's not perfect. Because of the phytoestrogens men for instance are usually encouraged not to have as much. Though they benefit from the protein, they don't want too much additional estrogen. If you are allergic then it may not be an option for you. If that's a concern I would suggest starting with small amounts. In the study I cited before, while a lot of the difference in numbers between Asian and American women is soy related, there are other factors as well such as lifestyle. Americans may be under more stress, eat fewer vegetables and more processed foods (which by the way often contain growth hormones if you're a meat eater). Also if you're eating something like a soy chicken sandwich it's likely that you're eating processed soy which will not have the same health benefits as edamame (actual whole soybeans). For the record, I am not a health professional and these are just my views based upon personal knowledge.

And finally in regards to the palpitations... I get those too. I get a lot of physical symptoms and when I ignore or disregard the "milder" symptoms my body ups the anty with stronger symptoms. I had symptoms that I didn't know were symptoms, but in retrospect I can see that it was the beginning of anxiety. The more aware you can become of your body's physical sensations and the quicker you can use various calming techniques and attitudes the better off you'll be.

I hope that helps. I hope you write back and let us know how you're doing. You might be better off though starting a new post. New members often get overlooked when they jump onto an outdated thread like this one.

Post Edited (Fugs) : 10/24/2010 9:26:12 PM (GMT-6)


justwannafeelgood
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   Posted 10/25/2010 6:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Fugs!  I started a new post like you said....thanks for that info!  Its in this same forum...or should I have placed it in the heart section??

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   Posted 10/25/2010 7:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Your problems appear to be related to stress and anxiety so posting your new thread here in the A & P forum is appropriate.
 
I will lock down this  thread so nobody else tags onto it.
 
You can always go into this thread and read your responses but no further posts in this thread as you new one is now on the board.  I am so glad you joined us and I know you have better days ahead.
 
Kindly,
 
Kitt
 
 
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