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Anxious soul
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Date Joined Mar 2008
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   Posted 7/21/2009 2:32 PM (GMT -7)   
What is the criteria for locking a topic? I wanted to reply to a topic and it was locked. I did not see anything in the thread (Jennara's health anxiety) that I thought was inappropriate. I rarely post on this site as I personally feel there is a "click" essence about it. I assume it is the "right" of the forum moderators to make these decisions. Months ago there was a (girl/guy?) that posted constantly and was welcomed with overwhelming responses in every post by the "regulars". She/he was also perceived as being with the "in crowd". As an outsider looking in, I could have told you at any given moment that the posts were a scam from an individual who needed a great deal of attention (that being her/his biggest disability). And that person got exactly what was needed at everyone else's expense. Perhaps that was one of those situations that we can not see the forest when we are standing in the trees. I do understand that regulars become friends and in the real physical world we tend to respond to those we know best and are most familiar with. This is an open forum and I have not posted a lot, but when I do I hope to be heard and receive respectful responses. My posts get very little attention compared to those posted by the "regulars" and I feel that locking out Jennara's thread is a huge sign of disrespect.

Moderators please clarify. This could be an excellent source to "heal well", but I never get those vibes here. Many times I feel like the person who cleans out the port o potties after a huge event...what I do or say is very important, but is overlooked by those that need it the most.

-Soul

Mazfire
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 1683
   Posted 7/21/2009 5:09 PM (GMT -7)   

Anxious Soul,

I have been off sick and did not know of Jennara's locked thread until now. I am truly sorry you feel that there is a 'clique' type environment here. I can honestly say that it is no ones intention to 'favour' a member. Having said that, some peoples personalities just *click* and friendships are formed, through repeated contact, both here on the board and through personal emails- sometimes phone calls even.

This does not mean that we disregard the feelings of members who dont post as often etc- all members are equally important to HW and your issues, questions, queries etc should all be met. But there are people who meet here on a daily basis and talk through their problems etc and in that way, we get to know each other alot better. This is not to say that those who post less frequently are of any less worth- not at all.

I have not been a mod long- ive been a member up until the last 2 months or so, and never did I feel that the Mods on this board played favourites. I thought they did a great job of being inclusive and supportive of everyone.

Now to Jennara's thread, i cant say for sure what happened, but as I see it, the thread became off topic and was going round in circles. It became argumentative which was unecessary. Both mods involved (Kitt & Nanners) did their absolute best to respond helpfully and honestly to Jennara.  At no time were they disrespectful. If you dont believe me, re-read the thread, as I did.

Im not certain ive answered your question the best i can, as I am new to being a mod- but i didnt want your post to go unanswered- hopefully other Mods can fill in the gaps that I have left.

All the best-

Maz XX



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Post Edited (Mazfire) : 7/21/2009 6:39:58 PM (GMT-6)


stkitt
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Date Joined Apr 2007
Total Posts : 32602
   Posted 7/21/2009 5:26 PM (GMT -7)   

Dear Anxious Soul,

I am sorry you feel the way you do.  I cannot control who's posts receive the most play and if you are not getting the responses you are looking for I am very sorry. 

Looking back I see the last time you posted was in April of 2009.  WE have had a huge turn over in members in the past three months as we often do. The members do make acquaintance here and as a Mod I am not in a position to tell them they cannot talk to someone that happens to have the same issues as they do.

I do the very best I can as do the other Mods but we are volunteers and members of the forum just as you are.
 
I will not get into any discussions re what happened with the "couple".  That is old history.
Re locked posts...............the only one that can lock a post is the administrator.  This sepcific post you question  was locked by administration as it had veared off topic.
 
You are very welcome to email me if you would like as my email is always open.
 
Respectfully,
Kitt
 
 
 

Kitt,
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Aries8
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Date Joined Dec 2008
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   Posted 7/23/2009 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey, Anxious Soul! I, too, am sorry to hear you're disappointed with this forum. I am not a moderator. I haven't noticed "cliques" but I do know there are members on here who have been conversing for a long, long time. This enables them to become friends as was mentioned and they know each other really well. That helps when responding sometimes.

Also, some posts do not get a lot of responses because like me, members may think a person has already gotten all the help that is needed or known to us. Hang in there with the anxiety!
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bigcc_1976
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 94
   Posted 7/23/2009 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Soul, I appreciate you stating your opinion. I too at times have felt the same way, I have even received e-mails from others that feel the same way. However, I do beleive that mods do and excellent job in a difficult atmoshere. The mods struggle with the same thing that we all do in this forum. Thank you Mods, for all the work that you do.

Back to your original thoughts, I think that those that continually start new threads and state new issues every thread are looking for attention. I have seen the mods try and help these individuals before some of us that only start a new thread when we really need help. We post to help others, but rarely do we start new threads. I have come to the belief that those that start new threads (one after another) are searching for help and attention. Maybe it is these individuals who truly need more help than you and I Soul.

There is always going to be negative thoughts in a anxiety forum, we all think negatively or we wouldn't be in here...Right? Sometime ago there was a big dust up in the forum, that passed, new members joined, and the circle will continue.

CC

Hibee
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 6488
   Posted 7/23/2009 11:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Anxious Soul

I am sorry you feel that there are cliques in this forum, I regularly post in this forum and try to reply to all posts which I feel I can add some positive input and support to. I really do think this is a good forum and the mods do a great job, I have GAD and find this a great place to come and speak to others who can relate to what im going through and gain support and advice from the members here. As others have said friendships are formed and I do keep contact with people outside of healingwell. This is an anxiety support group and it is important to us all that we feel comfortable here and feel that we can come and get support, I feel that of late some posts are going off topic and becoming argumentative which to me is not what HW is about thats stick to what we do best which is support each other and create that family feel which is why I came here. Soul please do stay with us and feel free to start your own thread more often you are a valued member here and I am glad you are with us.

Take care

Ben

Mazfire
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 1683
   Posted 7/24/2009 12:22 AM (GMT -7)   

I think alot of it comes down to giving and getting- if you give support or encouragement and put yourself out there to help others with your experience, they will want to respond to your questions and help and support you.

 People begin to feel at ease sharing their experiences. This is a community and the more often you are around, the higher the likelihood that you will feel accepted as people get to know you.

There will always be times where there are differences of opinions etc because we have an illness that has negative symptoms, but the bottom line is we are all equal, no-one is better or more worthy of love than others and we should do our best to support each other to the absolute best of our ability.

Maz XX


                        Co-Moderator Anxiety & Panic- Depression
 
 
 
'He heals the broken hearted and binds up their wounds.' (Psalm 147:3)
 
Panic Disorder, Agoraphobia, CFS, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Sinusitis, TMJ disorder, Endometriosis, PCOS, Chronic E.N.T and Upper respiratory tract infections, Reactive Arthritis, IBS, Anemia, Chemical/Noise/Light sensitivity, Trichotilomania, Seasonal Mood  Disorder, OCD, Benign Vertigo,  Impaired immune system. Tachycardia, GERD,
Low clotting factor= bruising. Tendonitis, Bursitis.
Meds: Zoloft 150mg. Xanax 4mg. Mobic. Panadeine Forte. Digesic. Nexium.  Codeine Phosphate. Phenergan. Multiple surgeries- I bear the scars of my poor physical health.
Age:29. AP first DX @ 10. Fibro etc DX @14. Proud Aussie.
 
 


Anxious soul
Regular Member


Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 69
   Posted 7/24/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
I repeat, "I do understand that regulars become friends and in the real physical world we tend to respond to the those we know the best and are most familiar with". I have absolutely no problem with that and am happy to see friendships being forged in our sometimes very lonely situation. My main concern was that a topic was locked out prematurely. I agree that it had argumentative tones to it. Please take the time to see who was on the argumentative side. As far as I know, there are no professionals on this forum that are trained to tell a member when they should or should not go to an ER or what type of doctor they should be going to. Is it appropriate for a moderator to lock a topic to ensure they have the last word? I am not trying to be cynical, just a concerned member.

I wanted to respond to Jennara's post and was unable to so. Not to instill fear here, but going to an ER with a toothache even when on antibiotics and under care by a dentist or oral surgeon is valid if the individual feels they are in danger. Three times I had personal experiences like this that my have saved my life by doing so. During a routine checkup an old filling was found to need replacement. The dentist put me on an antibiotic (as I have MVP) and scheduled an appt 3 days later to replace it. The next day the pain was excrutiating. I went to the ER and they admitted me to the hospital as the infection had went into the heart muscle and I needed 5 days of IV antibiotics. The other two times were old root canals needing replacement, also under the care of a dentist and on meds. Both times the teeth abcessed and my face swelled to the size of a baseball. Both times were trips to the ER and both times I was instructed that any airflight (which I had planned to do) or pressure to the pus sac which may cause it to burst could have killed me. Neither my dentist nor my oral surgeon instructed me on those issues. If I would have taken that flight I may not be here now to tell you this story.

Yes, as anxious souls, we tend to plug up the medical facilities. But I will take safe over sorry any day and I am sure that the people who depend on me agree.

I have one life to live and I plan to live it "well".

-soul

Hibee
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 6488
   Posted 7/24/2009 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Anxious Soul

As Kitt mentioned moderators can not lock a topic, It is the administrator who makes the decision weather or not to lock a topic and it does not happen very often I can only think of a few times since I have been a member. I am sorry to hear about what you went through with your dental problem and sounds like you took the right steps and got the treatment you needed. People are going to have different opinions on the issue regarding going to ER and these were put forward in the locked post but I feel the right decision was made to lock it and feel it is time to move on.

Anxious I hope that you feel that you can post here and please know we are here to support you and value your opinions I look forward to hearing from you more and getting to know you. To the members who are reading this and maybe do not post that often then please feel you can as im sure people here will be able to support you and give advice I really do feel that this is a good forum and yes at times people will have a difference of opinion but in the end we are all here to help each other by sharing our experiences and giving support.

Take care all

Ben

stkitt
Forum Moderator


Date Joined Apr 2007
Total Posts : 32602
   Posted 7/24/2009 1:28 PM (GMT -7)   

Dear AnxiousSoul,

If you go back to the locked post you will find that I posted what I felt was helpful information in making a decision on whether you should go to the ER or to  Urgent Care or to your clinic etc. I did not tell anyone they could not make their own decision.

I posted "Anyone who presents to the ER is entitled to an medical screening exam to determine if they have an acute  emergency."

I am sorry you felt  the post was locked prematurely, you are certainly entitled to your feelings.  The forums are intended for offering mutual personal support.  Debating controversial subjects should be taken elsewhere.  The thread had turned into a debate of when to go to the ER and when not to.

HealingWell Community forums and chat rooms are moderated by volunteers that have some special understanding of your health condition.  While they may not have answers to all your questions, moderators are here to help in any way they can.  Moderators are also responsible to keep promoting participation in the forums and chats.   

Each moderator, being human with different life experiences, may see things through slightly different eyes and some variance is to be expected. However, moderators promise to base their decision making on the content of posts rather than personal feelings about the person posting in them.
 
If you have a question for a moderator on a decision, you can email them and discuss it privately. My email is open to everyone at all times and I am glad to receive email.

 
Respectfully,
Kitt



 

Kitt,
Moderator: Osteoarthritis, GERD/Heartburn
Anxiety/Panic, & Depression
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Post Edited (stkitt) : 7/24/2009 2:33:33 PM (GMT-6)


jujub
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Date Joined Mar 2003
Total Posts : 10391
   Posted 7/24/2009 2:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Anxious Soul, I've reviewed that thread, and it seems to me it was locked for precisely the reason Kitt mentioned.

While we know for all of us on these health forums, there are social and political issues we would like to discuss, the owner/administrator created this site for us to share information about and support for our health problems, be they mental or physical. Because we all deal with chronic illness on a daily basis, we also become passionate about the subject at times, and this can lead to debates and eventually arguements.

One thing I wasn't always aware of is the concern of band width on a message board. There is a finite amount of space on the board, and when it is used for debates, disagreements or even prolonged friendly off-topic discussions, it decreases the space available for the main purpose of the board. In those instances, the Administrator may lock a thread to save space and keep the board on-topic.

I don't know for certain why this thread was locked, but I suspect it had to do with the fact that space was being used for people to reiterate the same opinions over and over, and the discussion appeared to be headed in a non-supportive direction.

I've been a member of HealingWell for a long time, much of it as a regular member. Sometimes I've been here regularly, sometimes only occasionally. I can tell you in all that time I have only seen the mods and most of the members being supportive and positive. I hope you'll stay to experience this yourself, as I have.

Peace to you.
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MMMNAVY
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Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 6927
   Posted 7/24/2009 4:04 PM (GMT -7)   
If I am understanding you correctly your main question is "Is it appropriate for a moderator to lock a topic to ensure they have the last word?"  No, it was not locked to make sure a mod has the last word (I promise we are not mean people), and in fact a new member had the last post.  Jennara's thread was not locked out of disrespect, it had just gone beyond the scope of a support forum and into areas that are best left to legal/medical professionals. 
 
It was not meant as any attack or disrespect towards anyone, it was just had gotten beyond the scope of what we do here, and that makes it off topic and also it is a rather intractable issue.
 
Since this is a support forum one tries to frame one's thoughts in such a way that it is more stating what our personal story is, and hopefully people can find guidence or derive wisdom thru our own exprience or information like the actual triage desicion tree that was the civilian equilant to the one I learned in the military that was on the thread.
 
You are welcomed to share your own story on a new thread or like you have done in the previous post.  
 
I am also sorry to hear you feel like an outsider. We certainly do not mean to cause anyone feelings like that, and I hope you know that the mods are here to help, not hurt people.  I sure as heck would not be here, if I did not want to help. 
 
As to your orginal post, I am wondering if it might be easier to have more responses to your posts if people knew you better and I also think it might help you understand where the mods are coming from.
People may not be responding to your post because they do not know you and are scared of responding, because they do not want to hurt you due to their own ignorance of your situation or pry unwelcomed into your life. It is harder to help someone one does not know, because one does not know what are sensitive subjects for that person and we do not want to cause that person harm.
In the future if you suspect someone is "scamming" the forum, then please tell us, but also realize we cannot act without proof. Since we are ill ourselves it is sometimes hard to keep track of people, and we welcome the help.
 
P.S. I am sorry to hear that you had to go thru such a bad experiance, and I am mad at your doctors for you because they did not prepare you for the bad what ifs that can happen with dental issues. 

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