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Hamster_01
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   Posted 10/29/2009 9:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Many people are coming down with the H1N1 flu and I find myself worrying alot about catching it.  I also am abit afraid of getting the H1N1 flu shot, due to a reaction from getting the shot.   I know I can't barricade myself in the house, stay away from everyone who might have this flu, so I am out there and taking precautions.
 
It is setting off anxiety though and making me worry more as the news daily showing people coming down with this flu, hospital outbreaks, communities being hit and also making it's rounds in schools.
 
I try to keep worrysome thoughts under control but recently it's not working well.
 
What are other fellow anxiety suffers doing to keep yourself calm and not worry so much?

Nanners
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   Posted 10/29/2009 10:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Well I personally will be getting the shot when it becomes available. I do not understand how you got sick from the seasonal flu shot as it is a dead virus. Could be you already were coming down with something when you got the shot OR you are allergic to eggs. The H1N1 shot is made the same way the seasonal flu shot is, just a different strain. I also take the normal precautions such as washing my hands frequently, avoiding people who are sick, and I use the Lysol wipes on things and also use the hand sanitizers alot. I have already gotten the seasonal flu shot and a pneumonia shot, just waiting for my doctor to get the H1N1 shot. Hope that helps.

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Green Grove
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   Posted 10/29/2009 11:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello!

Here is one link to a thread we had about Swine Flu/H1N1 Anxiety, and if you go up to HW's search bar, you will find many more useful links :)

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=9&m=1584292

*Activated your link:)*

Post Edited By Moderator (Nanners) : 10/29/2009 2:56:50 PM (GMT-6)


debaser
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:03 PM (GMT -7)   
Yeah I remember that thread, haha. There is a lot of good information in it. It wasn't that long ago but so much has changed, hasn't it? The swine flu is everywhere, it seems. Lots of my clients have had it. A couple of my friends. I may have had it over the weekend but if I did I was lucky and it was a mild case. No way to tell.

Here's another link that's interesting: http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/

If you click around on the states you'll notice that many have already peaked and come way down. Like Texas, for instance. For some states, like Ohio, the peak came later and it's still crazy there but looks to be leveling off. Google's data isn't medical in origin but they're smart people and in past years their graphs have mirrored CDC's pretty well, so I think it's a good resource. Anyway I put the link up just to illustrate that the worst, if we are lucky, will soon be over.

It's likely we'll have another wave once winter descends on most of the continental US, but if so that would actually be the third wave. To me, it figures that between all the outbreaks that occurred in the spring and now in the fall, so many people have been exposed (through illness or vaccination) that there may be far fewer vectors of transmission available, meaning that subsequent waves may have trouble gaining momentum. That's based on logic and not medical science, but it makes sense to me.

Your post is a little unclear. Have you had a negative reaction to a flu shot before? I'm not a doctor but if you haven't had a reaction before, I would recommend getting the vaccine. For most people this has been a very mild illness, but you'd want to protect yourself just in case. There are some who do get quite ill. In any case it's a nuisance at the very least. The most common side effect of flu vaccination is a sore arm. Some have reported mild flu-like symptoms lasting from a couple of hours to a couple of days, but I believe that's pretty rare.

Anyway, you ask what anxiety sufferers are doing to stay calm? Well, speaking for myself, I just try to look at this whole thing like a phenomenon. It's interesting to track. And now that I've known a few people who've had it and all but one of them said it wasn't as bad as the normal flu, that has made me feel better. I don't worry about getting an especially bad case and dying from it. The odds that something like that would happen are extremely low. So I just try to be as objective as possible about it. For example, looking at the CDC data, H1N1 has exploded. But if you look a little more closely you'll see that even at this point most people haven't had it. Most people will not get it. Even in 1918 -- the worst and most deadly flu pandemic ever recorded -- most people were able to stay healthy. I think your odds are good, and since you said you're taking precautions you've improved them. Vaccination, of course, would improve your odds the most.

I'm not going to lie. I still get worried about it. But I'm not worried so much that I'll get sick. I'm self employed and what I worry about is coming down with it at the beginning of a week. I've already decided that if I do get it, it's my duty as a human being to wait 24 hours after having a fever (without the help of NSAIDs or other fever reducing meds) before I go out in public again. So if I were to come down with it on a Monday I'd likely be out until at least Wednesday and more likely Thursday from what I've heard. Yep, bad for business.

Green Grove
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   Posted 10/29/2009 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Nanners :) I am having issues with my links due to my browser, so I may have to have the help from time to time!

ThatsMzTaz2U
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   Posted 10/31/2009 4:53 AM (GMT -7)   
   I am worried sick over the swine Flu, I cant even find the seasonal flu shot to get there out of it everywhere so I am doubled worried, my hubby has to go in the hospital and all I can think of is that is FLU central, I have decided for myself to just go out twice a month very early in the morning for food and necessities.I will stay away from crowds. I bought a box of disposable gloves and will be wearing them when I do have to go to a store. I also bought a mask that I will wear when hubby goes in hospital.I use a lot hand sanitizer, lol I even got my Christmas shopping done so I don't have to be in the crowed stores. I know everyone can not do this, so just take precautions do wear the gloves, lots of people are and keep hand sanitizer in your car and your purse, wipe down your carts, and try to avoid HUGE crowds. Just wanted to let you know you are not alone over the worry, I also will not be getting the H1N1 shot, not enough study done on it. If I do get the flu I know it's going to be rough as I suffer from diabetes, Poly cystic Kidneys ( which are getting worse) so my body is already fighting the Poly Kidneys every day and is weakened, Good Luck Take Care and may everyone stay Healthy.
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stkitt
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   Posted 10/31/2009 6:05 AM (GMT -7)   
I am so sorry to hear of our members who are feeling an increase in their anxiety. Remember that is our disorder, worrying, and this is just another time for us to learn to control the anxiety and not let it run our lives.

If you follow the CDC guidelines for infection control and practice common sense you should be fine. Planning ahead is always good and I had my flu vaccine back at the end of August knowing this whole flu problem was coming down the road. I have not had the H1N1 flu shot yet but will get it as soon as it is available. I work everyday with children and I have sent many sick children home from school since September but so far I am fine.

I know each of us has to do it our own way but please try not to panic re H1N1. Our old thread had some good info so if you review that you may feel better.

Remember you are not alone in your fears but we are here for you to come and talk with and we support you.

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Kitt

Keeton
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   Posted 10/31/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi there
I am on the 7th day of my bout w/ H1N1 - i am happy to report that i am coming along just fine, it pretty much knocked my on my rear for the first 4 days, but on the 5th day i was feeling much better, and now it has just become a nagging cough and draining sinuses.

There is alot of hype out there about how deadly it can be, etc. just like the regular flu viruses that work their way thru every year, it can be have serious side effects on the very young, the very old & those w/ a weakened immune system, for the rest of us that fall somewhere between those categories, it most likely will just make you feel crappy for a week to 10 days and then you move on.

My Dr advised the rest of my family to just wash wash wash their hands w/ hot soapy water.. and be careful about touching their mouths, nose & eyes.

As for me, well i am at the end of this, and the only real side effect is i lost a few pounds and missed a few days of work.

Good luck.

Keeton

stkitt
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   Posted 11/1/2009 8:23 AM (GMT -7)   
Keeton

Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the H1N1 flu with all of us. It is good to hear from someone who has had the flu and can tell us first hand how it played out.



Hand washing is the one thing everyone can do to help protect themselves.



I am glad you are starting to feel better and thank you for staying home from work and not toughing it out as many try to do. By staying home you helped prevent spreading the flu.



Blessings to you,



Kitt

debaser
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   Posted 11/1/2009 11:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow. Sounds like you have had one of the rougher cases. And yet here you are, alive and stuff.

Most people I know have gotten better within a few days with the exception of a lingering cough. One person I know who has it actually posts here every great now and then. Maybe she'll share her experience. Anyway the coughing actually did a number on her...she injured her ribs or something and is in quite a bit of pain. But I don't think that's going to happen to most people.

Anyway, sorry to hear you got the flu, Keeton, but am real glad to hear you're doing better.

Everyone check out the latest FluTrends: http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/

Activity seems to be declining in most of the continental US, with the exception of the northeast and some of the mid-atlantic. Seems reasonable that those places will follow the pattern set by the rest of the states and will soon be on the decline as well. So that's something to take a bit of solace in.

Hamster_01
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   Posted 11/3/2009 8:53 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for the replies..

Nanners, I didn't say anything about getting the flu from the flu shot (though I know atleast 4 people who have NEVER had the flu in their lives, and had the shot, and then come down with it..) I said I was worried about having a reaction to it. Meaning, something wrong happening, there are stories out there of people having neuro problems afterwards..

My anxiety is up and down, depending on the day. Recently a friend was over and her son had a cough, now 4 days later I get a call, the kid has H1N1. High fever, running nose, body aches, chills, fever. This really bothers me and now I'm paranoid I'm going to get something.

Keeton, thank you for sharing your flu story. I am glad to hear you're on the mend.

One thing that scares me, how healthy people are dying of this. A healthy young teen boy died last week of H1N1. We don't know enough about this Flu and what it does to each person. Why is it or should I say HOW is it that a healthy active boy can die? Something is very wrong and I believe there's more to this flu than meets the eye.

Anyway, I am doing yoga and some mediation, trying my best not to worry. Just tough some days, especially when more and more people are coming down with the Flu.

melodee
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   Posted 11/3/2009 10:03 AM (GMT -7)   
Hamster,
If you are referring to the cheerleader who was diagnosed with dystonia, did you know that FOX was the first to report her case? And no other major news station has reported this? That itself is odd don't you think? Neurologists who have seen her documentary say her symptoms did not appear to be of dystonia, but rather a psychogenic disorder caused by stress and fear.
http://health.usnews.com/blogs/on-parenting/2009/11/02/flu-fears-vaccine-fears-and-cheerleader-desiree-jenningss-story.html

She had never had a bad reaction to flu shots. For some reason this year she did. And notice how only FOX reported this. I think it is confusing as the public is worried about the H1N1 flu shot, but the cheerleader actually got the seasonal flu shot.
 
My friend's children are down with the H1N1, but thanks to Tamiflu, they are doing much better than before. My other acquaintance who lives in Seattle and works as a surgeon for the ER, had her H1N1 flu shot already and she is doing fine.
 
Although I am very worried about the flu etc, I am trying to stay positive as there is nothing much we can do except to take precautions.
 

debaser
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   Posted 11/3/2009 6:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Well you can have neurological problems after ingesting mercury, and there is a little mercury in the preservative contained in most but not all H1N1 vaccine, but you probably ingest more mercury when you eat a fish sandwich than when you get your shot. Most of the bad reactions people get from any vaccine is because they're allergic to eggs. If you've had a flu shot before and had no problems with it, you'll probably be okay because they're made pretty much the same way. Anyway, I think Jim Carrey is funny and that Jenny McCarthy is hot, but I don't want to get my medical advice from them.

CDC has found the average incubation period for H1N1 flu to be two days. Typically it is 1-4 days and has been as long as 7 days, but if you were exposed to this kid four days ago and wake up tomorrow feeling well, I think you're probably safe.

I'm among the most flu-paranoid people you'll ever meet, but I'm no longer worried about it. Chances are I'm not going to get it but if I do, I do. I'm taking all the precautions that I can...other than that there's nothing I can really do. I'm just glad to hear that it's a mild illness for most people.

melodee
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   Posted 11/4/2009 1:05 AM (GMT -7)   
debaser said...
Well you can have neurological problems after ingesting mercury, and there is a little mercury in the preservative contained in most but not all H1N1 vaccine, but you probably ingest more mercury when you eat a fish sandwich than when you get your shot.
       
Ethyl Mercury contained in flu shots does not accumilate in your body. Methyl Mercury does. They are different things. 
And the only reason they talk about the risk in the news this year is because of the H1N1 hype. We don't hear about the risks of flu shots every year.  
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