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Mike619er
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   Posted Yesterday 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Well after having enough of the oh whats happening to me, oh this is never going to get better and let me go run to everyone to try and have them fix me, which is certainly not going to work just talking to somebody, I started doing my own homework on the computer.  I believe I have found my main worry and problem, derealization.  As I've said before I've always been very self-conscious and a bit depressed, but I've always been able to function just fine.  This fit of derealization and in combination with my lack of sleep is what is really messing my head up.  Often feel almost throughout the whole day, for the last 2 months, that I'm dreaming, although I am in total control of my actions.  It makes no sense at all but it's how I feel, I never have any violent thoughts or anything to anyone else, never have seen anything walking next to me, only time I have "hallucinated" was the other night when I was closing my eyes and trying to go to sleep and invisioned some old weird guy laughing which caused me to panic for a bit.  But this derealization is the major contributor to my problems right now, anyone who suffers from this and has a few tips on or maybe is on a medication that is more suited for dealing with this problem?
 
~Mike

stkitt
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   Posted Yesterday 6:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Mike,

We have a great search feature on this site so if you type in Derealization you should find other thread that speak to this very topic.


:-) Kitt

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/4/2009 11:31 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Mike ,
I have Dp/Dr and its really is horrible!!! I am so sorry you are going threw this!!! I can relate 100% have been suffering since sept this year. I have Ocd, anxiety/panic disorder and depression. Have you seen a doctor?? Are you seeing a Therapist? If not I do think you need to. They have helped me ALOT as i am feeling 70% better on medication and therapy and anxiety/panic group. Breathing excersizes and relaxation are great because our minds go 1000 miles an hour with the what if's !! What if I am going crazy, what if I have a brain tumor ect..... I am on Zoloft 100mg and will soon up to 150 mg. But all medicines work different for people and you and the doctor need to find what is right for you. Good luck and if you need to talk I am here. Been there going threw that.

Melinda

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/4/2009 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   

Thanks Melinda, I'm not quite sure what dp is but I know the derealization is definetly taking its effect on me.  I'll lose track of what day it is multiple times within a day, time never seems to move, and I feel like Im just walking around in a fog.  And yes I'm seeing a Therapist that diagnosed me with depression/anxiety disorder.  But when I was walking the mall I was just so confused, I couldn't take in everything that was going on around me.  I've walked through malls a hundred times before and never felt this way, I began to panic that I wasn't thinking clearly.  I was just walking through the mall and just felt completely confused and lost, was looking for the quickest way out.

Also what is it that makes me feel completely empty?  When I first started having these bad anxiety/panic attacks I was being flooded with a million negative and bad thoughts, maybe the Cymbalta is kicking in now and stopping them but lately I haven't really been thinking of anything.  Come to think of it, thats what I think of most of the time, NOTHING.  I feel like a zombie, I have no reaction to anything.  I don't get happy ever, I'm never excited, I barely feel any kind of emotion except for when I try and figure out why I'm so lost and confused all the time, which normally triggers a panic attack.  So my solution has been to cope with this lately, just sit around and be a zombie.  Seems like the best way so far, and hope my mind sparks back up and into gear somehow.


melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/4/2009 10:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Derealization and Depersonalization are both 'Dissociative disorders' and sufferers of one can experience the other.

First of all, understand this - Depersonalization and Derealization are completely normal symptoms of anxiety disorder. Although very disturbing at times, they are completely harmless, think of them as a daytime dream. They DO NOT mean that you have any other condition, a mental illness or that you are going mad - they are just more anxiety symptoms

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/4/2009 10:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Your Zombie feeling is another symptom.......read Terms commonly used to describe the symptoms and sensations of Derealization:


spaciness
like looking through a gray veil
a sensory fog
spaced-out
being trapped in a glass bell jar
in a goldfish bowl
behind glass
in a Disney-world dream state
withdrawn
feeling cut off or distant from the immediate surroundings
like being a spectator at some strange and meaningless game
objects appear diminished in size
flat
dream-like
cartoon-like
artificial; objects appear to be unsolid, to breathe, or to shimmer
"as if my head were inside a Coke bottle and I'm viewing the world through the thick glass at the bottom"

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/5/2009 3:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Since you're also suffering from this, have you found that any medication works better for you Melinda?  And also when you first starting experiencing these symptoms, was it much worse at the start?  How long did it take for you to see improvemet?

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/5/2009 10:58 AM (GMT -7)   
Well they was bad and then got WORSE!!! But everyone is different. I am taking Zoloft 100mg and am upping it tonight. Which I hate meds and its veryyy hard for me. The Zoloft has helped and I am about 70% better and still working at it. Every medicine is different for every person and works different, sometimes trial and error. But you will find the right one, dont give up!!! I felt the dream like 24/7 it was so terrible. There is a web site that talks about DR and DP only. dpselfhelp.com if you would like to check it out.All of these people suffer from it.
TTYL, Melinda

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/5/2009 10:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I have been on the Zoloft for 5 weeks now almost 6..DONT give up !!

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/5/2009 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I know a lot of people personally who take Zoloft and have good things to say about it, I'm thinking actually that I should be on that myself.  My grandfather and aunt take it and respond well to it, and one of the people I work with is also on it and has said that he has been responding well from it as well.  The cymbalta seems to be helping as far as the depression goes, but not really cutting it so far for the anxiety and DR feeling.  But then again, only been 2 1/2-3 weeks so I'll continue to give it some time.
 
Been gettin this strange tingling sensation on the top and back of my head lately, along with jaw and mouth muscle tightness.

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/5/2009 2:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes My Aunt is on Zoloft and my doctor said when a family member has takin it and it works you have a better chance ( dont know how true) But it was only about three weeks before I started noticing a big diff. I HATE the tingling sensations, I have them in my face chest arms and head.. BLAH. Never had the jaw and mouth thing but have heard of other people who have. Did you go to that web site???

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/6/2009 12:13 AM (GMT -7)   
No I haven't checked it out yet but I should, just seems that everything I read I think I have 10x worse lately so thinkin twice before i start researching mental illnesses again.  Last time I did that I threw myself into a panic for awhile.

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/6/2009 7:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I google everything !! Google can be our worst enemy !! But I cant stop and stress my self out bad. I try to avoid it at all cost. But I always end up on google..LOL

PaigeDP
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   Posted 12/6/2009 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi, My name is Paige, I'm 18 and was fairly recently diagnose with panic disorder/GAD/OCD, and also have Depersonalization and Derealization. I haven't been on here much lately, because I got a new job, but I am very happy to see someone else posting about DR. Lately, I haven't really had any depersonalization, but pretty constant derealization. I really do think you should see a therapist/doctor.. whatever works for you. Medications help people tremendously as does therapy. Personally, my doctor has tried me on numerous medications and I have had negative reactions to all of them, so I am going to try the therapy route ASAP if I can get the money anyways. Luckily, I am starting to get used to it(which is really kind of sad), but I don't really have panic attacks anymore and I don't really show it as badly. (I do feel the anxiety, but I've somewhat learned to control it on my own and I am very thankful because so many people are not that lucky). So ultimately, my anxiety has gotten better, but that doesn't mean I don't feel the DP/DR anymore, and that my thoughts don't race constantly. It's absolutely horrifying and I would never wish this on anyone. It's different for everyone, and so is there treatment. Me, I still question constantly, but I try to just say, hey this is how I am and it could go away, and I'll be just fine. It's very difficult to accomplish but after 3 months(approx) I am starting to get it down a bit. Anyways, if you want to talk, I am here.

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/6/2009 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Yea I've been dealing with this for the past 2 months too.  I'm just constantly tired but can't go to sleep, and can't help thinking that the time I spend awake all day seems like a dream.  Keep trying to tell myself its not and actually lately I'll have sporadic moments where I actually feel like my old self, then something will trigger my anxiety and I'll slip back into a fog for a bit.  So it's not 24/7 anymore like it was at the start, maybe now its like 12 out of the 14 hours i stay awake that Im in a fog lol  So maybe the meds are working?  Who the hell knows...

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/6/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -7)   
There is a movie called NUMB and it is about a guy who has DP. Have you ever seen it Paige?

PaigeDP
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   Posted 12/6/2009 11:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes I have :) With Matthew Perry :D

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/7/2009 1:17 PM (GMT -7)   
The movie was an awesome way to show my family so they can understand better. Just explaning that we feel like we are in a dream , they really dont get it unless they have had it there selfs.

Mike619er
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   Posted 12/7/2009 2:48 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm definetly going to have to check that movie out.  Melinda or Paige, either of you have uncontrollable yawning while you're going through the insomnia with the anxiety?  Still feel like I'm in a fog and the yawning has been getting more and more often lately, even with the 4-5 hours sleep a night im getting taking the Ativan and Ambien.

melindazcrew6
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   Posted 12/7/2009 6:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Might be a side affect to your medicine. Zoloft makes me yawn ALL the time.
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