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Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/1/2010 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I've read a lot of the new posts on here and I was so glad to see people here have an understanding that others who don't have bad anxiety/panic attacks don't understand this (and you only sound insane if you try to describe it)!

I've had bad anxiety and ADHD my whole life. I've learned to control the ADHD. However, this anxiety... it's like being in a room where someone is screaming! Almost anything can set it off. As I've gotten into my late 20's the panic has subsided a great deal however I've found I am having a trouble getting any kind of sleep. I'll be up for 2 to 3 days at time. Self medicating and sleeping pills don't seem to be able to do the trick anymore. A lot of my friends tell me "get some sleep, get 8 hours" like it's a choice. I've spent the past few years trying get it. I've seen more sunsets and sunrises than any person has a right to. My girlfriend came over the other night and got about 10 hours of sleep, she's 23 and easily sleeps the sleep of the dead every night.

While driving the other day and heard the song "Overkill" by Men at Work on the radio. The lyrics and the music video I viewed on YouTube later that day are so spot on about how I feel every night as I try to fall asleep. It made me feel like this is a natural progressing of anxiety through this life time; it's the next phase. I don't know...

paniccu
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   Posted 2/2/2010 7:07 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't think it's a natural progression, but if your anxiety is out of control it will affect your sleep. ou can't live like that though, you need to sleep! Can you see a doctor and have them prescribe you something? You might be able to go on someting short term just until your sleep pattern gets regular again. I have a few sleepness nights here and there, but it's usually when I am really anxious about something in particular and something is bothering me. If I don't sleep well for 2 days in a row I'm a wreck. Have you aleady tried natural things like Sleepy Time Tea and melotonine? How about a couple of Benedryl? Warm milk? IDK. I hope you can get sleep soon my friend.

2sad2care
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   Posted 2/2/2010 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I feel your pain. Ive had insomnia for years and longest I didnt sleep was for seven days! Literally seven days! Needless, to say I was crazy out my mind!

Ive never been able to get 8 hours of sleep. Im lucky to get five hours of straight sleep. Lately, Ive been able to fall asleep but been having VIVID dreams where Im half asleep, cutting down my beauty rest to just a few hours. Its terrible! But until my mind is at ease it will continue to be this way.

I wish you all the best.

stkitt
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   Posted 2/2/2010 12:18 PM (GMT -7)   
Good Afternoon,


May I suggest you see your physician and talk about medications that may help both your anxiety and get you some rest.



I use Trazodone at bedtime for sleep as I was unable to sleep and would be up until 2-3 AM when I had to get up at 5 AM for work. I would end up tossing and turning and crying half the night. The Trazadone was prescribed by my P-Doc at a low dose and the side effect of drowsiness works for me. I had tried many other things under my MD's care that did not work.



I know where your coming from and what you going through.



Take care,



Kitt

joelietz
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   Posted 2/2/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   
7 days is a long time not to get any sleep! I would have crashed and burned without sleep for that long! I used to suffer from insomnia but then I discovered hypnosis and I found that really helped. That can distract one's mind so that it doesn't spin it's wheels endlessly at bedtime. It a nice natural way to fall asleep and it doesn't require drugs.

Edit:  The link buried in your post re insurance quotes has been deleted.  Thank you.
 
Kitt

Post Edited By Moderator (stkitt) : 2/2/2010 3:53:38 PM (GMT-7)


melodee
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   Posted 2/3/2010 7:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi,


I would definitely talk to a doctor and try to find the right med to help you sleep. Do you take anything for your ADHD? If you do, could the medication be interfering with your sleeping? Also check out the following causes. Is there anything that may be causing your insomnia like caffeine, smoking, alcohol, bad sleep environment? How about your daily activities? I know that if I do too much exercise during the day, my body cannot rest in the evening. Loud music is also something you may want to avoid.





Food, drink and medications
What you eat and drink during the day can affect your sleep at night. Too much caffeine, smoking, and alcohol before bed all contribute to poor sleep. Additionally, some prescription medications can interfere with sleep. Ironically, if not managed carefully or stopped abruptly, sleep medications can cause rebound insomnia.



Your sleep environment
Your room may be too bright. Or excess noise during the night may be waking you frequently. A quiet dark environment is best for sleep.



Your daily habits
Too much stimulating activity before bed, be it vigorous exercise or watching violent stories and images on the nightly news, can make it hard to sleep. TV is best avoided altogether.



Your mental and physical condition
Life stress, like a new job, family conflict, or financial worries can keep you up at night. Or you may have a disease where sleeplessness is a common symptom. Chronic pain may also be keeping you awake.

You might find it very difficult to wind down at the end of the day. How can you stop thinking about tomorrow’s big deadline, or worrying about an ill parent who is steadily getting worse? Relaxation and stress management techniques can help quiet your mind and improve your sleep. They do require some practice and time, but the benefits are better sleep and better health without the side effects of sleep medications.



Source

http://www.helpguide.org/life/insomnia_treatment.htm

artist guy
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   Posted 2/4/2010 6:45 PM (GMT -7)   
hey I was browsing this site, I have crohns, but i have major sleeping issues, I take 2 different type of drugs. their both in the diazpam family of drugs. serax is my anxiety, restoril is my sleeper, i take the highest doze they come in. it is critical for these drugs to work I have to not have eaten 2-3 hr prior to taking them, or absolutly no greasy food 3 hr before taking. so I can eat something 1 hr beforew but it has to be really clean type of food. plus I go to a sleep specialist for my med's no family style of dr. they don't know enough about sleep med's. ambien and lunesta are worthless

artist guy


Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/5/2010 4:56 AM (GMT -7)   
I have Kolonopin and Trazodone. Kolonopin numbs my "normal" thinking, and SSRI's have so many personality numbing side effects I'd rather have the anxiety. So I only take them when I've been up for over 24hrs. I do take Melatonin, I find it is quite effective when mixed with Nyquil. I have been to see several people about this issue. I feel like Woody Allen talking to his psychiatrist in Annie Hall when I do.

What I am trying to do is get to the root of my sleeplessness. I find sometimes I can write things down and get feedback... it makes more sense to me. Especially hearing it from others. What I really wrote that post for was not necessarily a solution, but to hear how other people with this same problem are coping with it. I'd love to hear your stories.

I've had a compilation of problems recently... ie Girlfriend got pregnant, lost my job, thus I had to move in with relatives because I couldn't make rent, racked up a lot of credit getting my car fixed and for industry tests I want to take... and after two months of befriending my relatives cat, it had kidney failure and had to be put down today! It's strange/sad/calming watching the cat put it's head down on the table as they inject the euthanasia shot. But when it rains... I know, everything will be alright. It's only temporary anxiety for the above problems.... But I know... I'll still be up all hours of the night when these things pass.

"Day after day it reappears."

melody1000
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   Posted 2/5/2010 9:41 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi my name is pinkmelody.I am glad that i'm not alone with not sleeping issue.I take ativan maybe a couple of hours before i go to bed,but it seems like i just keep look at the clock.Go back to sleep.wake up again...I do that all night long.

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/5/2010 11:21 AM (GMT -7)   
I understand! I wake up at the same time each hour. However, when it turns 3am, I cannot get back to sleep. When I studied abroad I was able to wake up and walk the streets of Rome without fear. I always found myself wandering farther and farther from home when I'd walk. At the time... I had no bills. I had no worries... but yet, it was a struggle for my mind to stop "racing" over things that I knew would fix themselves.

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/5/2010 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
I don't want to be judged for saying this: I can drink an entire bottle of Vodka and still be as coherent as I am when I am sober (So why are you drinking Russ?!?). People in college use to tell me all the time "I can't tell if you're drunk or sober". They don't understand, it's not about the alcohol. It never was, alcohol is nasty in all forms. It's about getting to sleep. It always has been for me. I use to laugh at Michael Jackson jokes until I hear how he died... He just wanted to get a full nights sleep.

melody1000
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   Posted 2/5/2010 1:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Yea,I just want to get a full nights rest too.I think our brain is constantly thinking all the time.I never use to be this way.What anxiety does............dreadful..

debaser
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   Posted 2/5/2010 6:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Well alcohol isn't gonna be a very good sleep aid. It could be a good blackout aid I guess if you drank enough. To drink an entire bottle of vodka? You must have the tolerance of a Russian fisherman!

Seriously, I'd go to a sleep clinic if I were you. Maybe some of your anxiety is related to not getting enough sleep. I've been reading a lot about what happens to the body during not only the REM cycle but other stages of sleep, and while it's not fully understood it's pretty widely agreed upon that sound sleep is necessary. Perhaps you have apnea or something that's waking you up? I don't know but it's worth a shot.

I have lots of trouble sleeping at times. Nothing like you describe, but comes in phases and when I'm in a bad sleeping phase lots of stuff seems to go wrong. Then I'll get straightened out and sleep well for a few weeks. Things will be generally good during that time.

Hope you find something or someone to help.

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/5/2010 6:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I am seeking help... I always am... I just find it funny. I am part Russian!!

melody1000
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   Posted 2/9/2010 11:20 AM (GMT -7)   
To debaser,I hope i can find something or someone to help me too.................Love yall

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/12/2010 11:10 PM (GMT -7)   
It's weird right now. I cannot describe it in a precise way. It's like a "welling" or "screaming" coming from the inside. It always happens when I wake up to look at the clock. Then I proceed to pace around my room and even go out and walk the streets. But I can't do that right now with all this darn snow.... Any input is helpful... I really don't know what to do.

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/13/2010 12:50 AM (GMT -7)   
When I was in Middle School I use to laugh at this "crazy" chick who'd be up for days at a time. Little did I know or even try to understand how bad this is. It never stops. It keeps pressing. "I can't get to sleep!" no kidding. Why must I have to go through my days always thinking there is a TV on in the room next door?

Sunshine29
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   Posted 2/16/2010 7:50 AM (GMT -7)   
If my sleeplessness if from anxiety, and Im taking meds for that, how come i still cant sleep through the night? Then i get more anxious from not sleeping...crazy cycle

StaceyA
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   Posted 2/16/2010 8:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I have found that it is important for me to hide the clock. I cover it with a magazine so that I cannot watch the hours go by. This is not an answer I know, but just a helpful suggestion. Someone has suggested meditation before bed. I'm going to try it.
The klonopin does dope me up, but it just seems necessary to me sometimes.
Wishing you the very best and most important a good night's sleep!
Stacey

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/16/2010 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
I agree... the only thing is that I get so nervous about time that I actually have four clocks in my room. It's a funny thing, not being able to relax. It's a crazy thing when you don't sleep... you miss one night you are out for two days on being able to do anything constructive. I lost my job due to layoffs and had to move in with my parents. My father is very intense. His office is in the basement next to the room I am staying in. There is no door on my room. I've always been sleepless but I've always have gotten an adequate amount of sleep... four hours does me good. However, being here I cannot relax. I just can't. This guy is always walking threw my room... judging then getting mad and confronting me. He doesn't know, I'm not really sleeping. I'm always "listening" all night. I've debated getting a hotel room some nights. I use to have my days full of analytical and physical activities. A lot of people are wondering "what is going on"... but how do you explain not sleeping? You can tell them... then they try to give you a solution. Which is something like... "go to bed at eight tonight". Right... eight... I'd have to be tranquilized to do that. Kitt and 2sad2care are spot on. Tossing and turning... vivid dreams while you are half awake.

I have had this reoccurring dream (when I do get to sleep) where I am pulled over by a police officer. He gets me out of the car and gives me all kinds of road side tests that I fail... he then gives me a breathalizer and I blow a 0.00 and he looks at me and tells me "What is this about? I can't take you to jail now". I have to tell him "I haven't been drinking. I just haven't slept in about three days."

Rustoleum
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   Posted 2/16/2010 12:44 PM (GMT -7)   
I just don't understand.... for me... there is some deep seeded fear of going to sleep recently. I wake up when I should be sleeping and feel like sleeping when I should be out being productive. I don't know what this "driving/capitulating force" in my brain is. Constant shaking... It truly is a "quiet storm".

StaceyA
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   Posted 2/17/2010 7:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Russ,
I hope that you were able to get a little sleep last night.
It seems like you have quite a lot of big life changes going on with the job loss & pregnancy & moving. That's enough to keep most people awake. Maybe talking to a therapist could help? I know that a young guy doesn't want to do that, but you are dealing with so much. I know these things probably didn't start your sleeping problems, but they can't be helping at all.
I am thinking of you and wishing you the best!
Stacey

Sunshine29
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   Posted 2/18/2010 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
Last night my allergies were bothering me. I took Tylenol Sinus Nighttime and slept 8 HOURS!

Daisysmom
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   Posted 2/19/2010 12:18 AM (GMT -7)   
I recently was taking some Ambien after a string of mini-crises. It did help me to get back on a sleeping schedule, at least. And getting some good sleep does help your health quite a bit.

It is very bad not to get your rest. Hope you will get that figured out.

And I hate to be a scold, but the amount of alcohol in your life is concerning. I used to drink shall we say "moderately" (a 12-pack or two and lotsa hard liquor in a week) and you just don't realize what it's doing to you until you stop doing it.

People don't walk in and tell the doctor that they abuse alcohol. Someone I know is always complaining about migraines and wondering if they could be from food allergies. But she refuses to give up the booze. Like she never heard booze can cause headaches. Oh, sorry, migraines aren't just headaches.

Seriously, eliminate the alcohol as a way of narrowing down what might be wrong and you might surprise yourself.
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