Xanax vs. Ativan vs. Barbiturates

Which benzo has the most relaxing effect?
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Valium - 0.0%
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Ativan - 0.0%
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Xanax - 50.0%
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Rohypnol - 16.7%
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Klonopin - 33.3%
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or do barbiturates work better? - 0.0%

 
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silverdecember
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   Posted 8/7/2010 12:38 AM (GMT -7)   
The first narcotic drug that I ever had was Seconal, when I went to the hospital for a panic disorder. They sent me home with about five and my aunt also had some Lorazepam. I took the Seconal first and it got rid of the anxiety but it gave me an awful hangover. The next day I took some Lorazepam, which helped (though not as much as the Second) but I did not get a hangover. I know that Seconal is a barbiturate and the drugs which we are discussing are benzos, but there are similarities because they are both CNS depressants. After I got out of the ER where they gave me Lorazepam, my Dr. gave me a bunch of Xanax 2's, little pale green bars. I have not tried them b/c I am afraid it will be strong like the Seconal and give me an awful hangover. For now I'm sticking with the lorazepam but I'd like some advice from someone who regularly uses Xanax 2's.

G20man
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   Posted 8/7/2010 1:57 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi silverdecember :-) - I think it would be rare for a doctor to prescribe barbiturates for anxiety now-a-days. They are much more dangerous in overdose, more addictive/habit- forming, and have many more side effects compared to benzodiazepines. As to which benzo is the most effective, they are all effective for generalized anxiety when given in equivalent doses. Klonopin and Xanax are the two most common for panic disorder/agoraphobia, with Ativan coming in third. Personally, I like Klonopin the best. I didn't like how I felt on Xanax (unable to concentrate, too tired, etc.), and Ativan didn't really help me much. Klonopin helps me the most, and I feel the most normal on it. I also like that it's very long acting, it has a much longer half live than either Xanax or Ativan, that means less breakthrough anxiety and less doses per day.
This is a very individual thing. Someone will no doubt come along and say they like Xanax, Ativan, or Valium better. It all depends on what your doctor prescribes, and how well you do on it. It's not unusual for some people to try several of them before finding the one that works best for them. Again, a doctor (especially a psychiatrist) will usually have a pretty good idea what to try first after evaluating you.
 
How did your doctor say to take those 2mg Xanax??? That is an awful high dose for someone just starting a medication like that. I can tell you one thing, if you've never taken Xanax before, one 2mg tablet will knock you on your butt. I kid you not, Xanax is powerful. For someone with panic disorder, a doctor will usually start you on 0.25mg to 0.5mg a couple of times a day and see how it goes. Depending on condition and response, it can go from 0.25 two to three times a day, all the way up to 2mg three times a day. Some even go higher. But remember, short acting, high potentcy benzos like Xanax are very habit forming. The higher the dose and the longer you're on it, the more severe and protracted the withdrawl will be.
Anyone taking any of these medications should be under the care and supervision of a doctor experienced in thier use. These are very helpful medicines, even life savers for many, but they are not to be messed around with. BE CAREFUL!!!!!!
 
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   Posted 8/7/2010 7:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Good Morning and Welcome,

There are a lot of medications in this family, so it's important to know some of the differences between these medications. Most of these differences stem from differences in the rate of onset of action of the drugs or in the duration of action of the drugs. So for example, Xanax, when taken on a regular basis has a very rapid onset of action and a very brief duration of action on the order of hours, as opposed to  Klonopin, which has a fairly rapid onset of action and lasts for much longer, usually on the order of days. So these differences can be important in choosing the right benzodiazepines to treat your particular symptoms.

Barbiturates  are no longer the drug of choice when there are so many newer and safer drugs that have replaced the use of drugs like Seconal. 
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Sit2Know
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   Posted 8/7/2010 7:29 AM (GMT -7)   
It is easy to like all the benzos until they stop working and you have to get off - it was worse than my original anxiety

Fugs
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   Posted 8/7/2010 10:07 AM (GMT -7)   
It's an individual thing absolutely and nobody else's experience can tell you what is right for you.

Personally, I had one Ativan .5mg once in the hospital following a very severe panic attack. I didn't really notice any affect. I had another panic attack shortly after taking it. I was then prescribed Xanax. I've never been on Klonopin or Valium to compare.

I agree though with G20man that 2mg of Xanax sounds like a high dose to start with. The smallest dose they make is .25mg. I started with .25mg twice a day and it knocked me out. The first week of taking that dose I would fall asleep for 2 hours after my afternoon dose. After 1-2 weeks I would get tired but not fall asleep. By the 4th week it wasn't really helping as much and I needed to up the dosage which is common with Xanax.

I've been on Xanax now for almost two months and am now taking 1 mg a day (.25mg four times a day). The goal is to take it until I find something else to take its place such as an antidepressant that also helps with anxiety and panic. Then I'll just hold on to a few Xanax to use as needed, but not regularly as I am now. What I like about Xanax is that it only takes 15-30 minutes to kick in and I've never had any side effects with it. Although I'm nervous about the potential addictive nature of it, I'm happy with what I've gotten from it thus far.

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   Posted 8/8/2010 9:14 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry to hijack the post but has anyone tried Xanax XR? Supposedly it has a longer half life????? We don't have it in Oz yet but I am intrigued.
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G20man
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   Posted 8/8/2010 11:58 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Meg :-) . Xanax XR doesn't have a longer half life, it's just an exteneded release preperation. It releases a certain amount of Xanax slowly over the day so you don't have to take as many pills. I think it only has to be taken every 12 hours. It would certainly be conviednient for someone that has to take Xanax 3 or 4 times per day. It would reduce it to only twice a day.

God bless!!!!

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nervymeg
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   Posted 8/10/2010 6:22 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks you G20man;

I am interested in it for my ex-husband who has terrible agorophobia. I hope he can be prescribed!

Cheers,
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