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flashinglights
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   Posted 9/2/2011 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
So I have really been appreciating this website, I have had alot of great advice given and I thank each and every one of you!
 
 
Recently, my anxiety level has been lowered, I am doing things to take my mind off of whats eating me inside. Today, I woke up somewhat anxious, I could feel my heart beat in my head, my chest, I could hear it in my ears, and when I put my chin down my ears start ringing. I went up 2 flights of stairs and could feel my heart beating in my chest hard without touching it, is this just my anxiety making my heart speed up and pound, or am I just to aware of it? I have been on prozac for 3 weeks now, 10mg, and I don't really feel a difference, but there are still things that bother me. I do keep checking my pulse, I was literally doing nothing and it was almost at 170, is there any tips that can make me feel better or know this is a stupid anxiety thing?
 
Thank you!

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   Posted 9/2/2011 11:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I have also still been getting a bit of chest pain and headaches, my sternum is tender and under my armpit.

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 9/2/2011 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi FL, there are a lot of different symptoms that go along with anxiety, and while yours can most likely be attributed to stress, I always recommend seeing your dr., just as a precaution, when someone posts regarding heart related complaints/chest pains.

If you have been given a clean bill of health, then you can be sure that anxiety is indeed the culprit. A racing heart and heartbeat awarness is pretty common with anxiety. Your pulse however was pretty high, and while not a danger for a short time, you will want to get that in a healthier zone as soon as possible.

IOW, you need to treat the anxiety, so that your symptoms do not bother you and cause your body to become over-taxed with stress symptoms.

The pain in your chest/sternum could be anxiety related. We tend to tense and/or overbreathe, which can fatigue the thoratic muscles when anxious. It coud also be a benign but bothersome condition called costochondritis (an iflamation of the connective cartilage/tissue around the ribs) Again, consult with your dr. to be sure.

Perhaps a good plan would be to start with your regular dr. to talk about your physical symptoms, and while you are there, ask about a referral to a therapist. Doctor's network with each other, so your regular doc should be able to point you in the right direction for some anxiety treatment:)

Good luck, I hope you feel better soon, and keep posting!
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"Courage is not the abscence of fear, it is feeling afraid and doing it anyway!"

"It is when we are most lost that we sometimes find our truest friends"

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flashinglights
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   Posted 9/2/2011 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you! Yea I went to my doctor on Tuesday and he said I'm to young to have anything seriously wrong and it's just me panicking. I have this sharp shooting pain beside my sternum upper left chest it's localized so I know it's just anxiety. I keep panicking an panicking I just feel lost. I am makin myself sick and it's just so stressful and scary I have a constant upset stomach and now I feel nauseated it is just a really crappy time for me. I focus on it, it gets worse, I keep feeling my stupid pulse and worrying about the next thing that's going to happen. I don't know how I am going to reassure myself after I've already been assured. I know I am to young tro have a heart attack so why do I keep thinking I am going to have one. Blahhh :(

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   Posted 9/2/2011 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I never even considered growing pains either my dad just read me it, iTs honestly so scary but I need to realize I am okay. I'm wondering if the nausea is from the Prozac, I went driving with my dad and he goes quick and that's when yhennausea surfed plus I was panicking over the chest pain. The pain lasted about 30 seconds in a few waves. I also got ativans so I just took one and I seem to be calming down. It's sad cause I am only 17 and I'm letting this take over my life I need to get rid of it! I think my true problem is that I had the ECG around the start of august end of July, and it was a clean bill of health, ECG blood test and chest xray. But if it was something they would have saw it then. I was surprised my doctor didnt ask about therapy but my mom is going to set me up with one. I feel like this is like venting for me. I even feel better now :) a small dull ache is there but I didn't have a heart attack at it's worst. :)

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 9/2/2011 3:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay, that is good to know that everything physical checked out fine:) Now you need to concentrate on treating the anxiety. Did you and your dr. discuss therapy? The medication is certainly helpful, but to get at the core of your health anxiety, you need to learn how to battle the negative and fearful thoughts that feed it.

I really urge you to look into it if you haven't already. You are young and this is still in its early stages, and your long-term outcome could be so good with a little guidance and treatment through CBT!

Remember, you have an anxiety disorder that is treatable...you may feel out of control right now, but you can get back to the place that you want to be, and feel good again:)

Let us know how you are doing soon,
S.C.
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"Courage is not the abscence of fear, it is feeling afraid and doing it anyway!"

"It is when we are most lost that we sometimes find our truest friends"

Panic Syndrome recovery due to CBT

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   Posted 9/3/2011 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi

Good to meet you and welcome you are part of the A/P family now. Good to here your anxiety has lowered and as SC said you now need to learn coping strategies so that your anxiety stays at a level were it does no affect your life.

A resting pulse of a 170 is high even by anxiety standards. I know you said you had been given a clean bill of health but were did you get your thyroid checked for being overactive as that can cause high levels of anxiety and a high resting pulse. It is easy to find out they just take a blood test and it is also easy to treat if it is over active. I am not a doctor so this is just a suggestion to think about.

Glad you are with us and do keep posting, I will look forward to hearing how you are getting on.

Hibee
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flashinglights
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   Posted 9/11/2011 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Hibee! My days have been going well :)
Actually they want to check my thyroid! They think thats the culprit, I am 18 and have a very irregular period, I am overweight, and my family doctor thinks it is my thyroid, which I can deffinately agree with. The heart rate was not at resting at 170, I was walking around and kind of panicking. My pulse when standing is always 120 and if I focus it can be 140. I have almost no symptoms beside a small amount of chest pain (when thought about), and if I focus I can feel my heart pouding when I sit, other than that I have been doing pretty good the last few days. I stayed at my camp all by mysel for a week! I walked alot and panicked a bit, but I feel better knowing that nothing happened even when I was alone. The pain under my armpit is a swollen lymph node, which was from me pressing on it, and the pain on my breastbone was also from me pressing on it, I was making pain happen. I did this I think so I knew it was just pain from pressing on it, I feel stupid but that was almost like a breather for me. I feel so good when my mind is off of it, its like nothing, but when I think about it I panic, so I know its anxiety, this heart rate thing for sure I believe is my thyroid, I have to get a blood test so hopefully thats what it is! Thank you everyone again and I will keep posting and updating on how I feel :)! Just a question to, for heart rate, what is the walking normal rate?

hazelnut86
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   Posted 9/12/2011 9:53 PM (GMT -6)   
a normal heartrate is 60-100 beats per minute.
when i'm super anxious, mine never goes over 130
i have a friend though who swears hers goes up to 180 so i guess it's possible.
hang in there! i know from experience that the more you check your heartrate, the longer it will stay up and the faster it will beat. i know you want to to make sure it's okay or normal, but most people never check their heartrate so you are worried about it and it will make it higher. try to do something to get your mind off of it. watch a movie or go for a walk. i have actually taken off running when i was really anxious to burn some of the adrenaline off and it actually worked!
my anxiety attacks started when i was 19 too and my heartrate was higher when i was younger - used to go to like 160 i think. but seriously, stop checking it and your mind will go off of it. :) it's scary i know but take it from someone who has done that, it makes it worse. hugs!

hazelnut86
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   Posted 9/12/2011 9:55 PM (GMT -6)   
also, different antidepressants have diff. side effects with people - maybe the prozac is making your heart race. ask your doctor if it is possible or your pharmacist. sometimes i have read they make your symptoms worse.

flashinglights
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   Posted 9/16/2011 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Hazelnut!
Thank you for your response :) The stress level has deffinately been high, I checked my blood pressure and it was 120/80, heart rate was 136, after walking around, and then I checked it 2 minutes afterwards, and it was 122 with the same blood pressure, I talked to the pharmisist and he said it was fine, borderline high, but that was because I was a big nervous over the pulse, but I was happy my blood pressure was low so he said if anything WAS wrong, the blood pressure would be high. That reassured me a bit. My heart rate has gone down for sure because I have not been checking it but when I get anxious I can feel it going fast in my chest. But I have been doing good acutally! I have been going out with friends every night and it has been great! My body is really tense, I also hairdress. I have been doing alot and I feel the tenseness is being relieved. My ears are popping when I swallow today, thats todays symptoms ****. Other than that, I have been for sure alot less anxious than before! Small bouts of chest pain sometimes, but not as bad as before, I feel 90% better! Thank you all and I will keep updating :D!!! You all are awesome!

NeoVitae
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   Posted 11/16/2016 2:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I have walked this path for several years now. I will do my best to tell you what has worked for me. I have seen many different types of doctor regarding my Anxiety/Panic disorder. None of them were very helpful. Apparently, I am allergic to all forms of antidepressants. I had to take the natural route to curing my unspecified anxiety disorder. It turns out that I had to take a multi-disciplined approach.

Ultimately, I had to use Diet and Nutrition, Exercise, and Meditation to overcome it.

Diet and Nutrition: Eat foods with high density nutrition content. Especially high in Magnesium and Potassium, and B-Vitamins.

Exercise. This part was difficult for me, as every time I got my heart rate up, it increased my anxiety levels due to my irregular heart beat. My irregular heart beat was more obvious the faster and harder my heartbeat during physical exercise.

Meditation: Any form of Meditation is helpful. I particularly find Mindfulness and Transcendental Meditation (TM) very helpful. You have to pay a high price to learn TM. So, for most people, I suggest they look into Mindfulness. There is plenty of material online that will help you learn and practice Mindfulness.

Meditation is particularly helpful in that it helps you "retrain your brain" in how to think. It is often our Monkey Mind that controls our thoughts and creates dangers/threats where non exist. Your brain is a tool designed for solving problems, not to generate problems where none exists. It is because we have forgotten that the Brain/Mind is simply a tool that has been misused for most of humanities existence.

When you accept the present moment as it is, and understand that all things are temporary, including Anxiety and Heart Palpitations, you will be on the path to recovery.

In addition, I have found that Paradoxical Intention is particularly helpful. Instead of resisting the "ISness" of the situation, and not accepting what IS. Compel yourself to move fully into the heart palpitations, even to the point of commanding your mind to cause the heart palpitations to occur. You may be surprised at the result of this exercise. I personally have been able to slow my heart beat down after using my mind to command my heart rate to increase when feeling anxious. It is a terrifying thought, I know. Try it as a Scientific experiment and see what happens.

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 11/16/2016 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello NV and welcome!

Thank you for sharing part of your journey, and what has worked for you. I am glad do her of your progress and meeting your recovery goals!

We encourage members here to find the right treatment plan for themselves...whether it be therapy, medication (often a combination of both), or a mix of self help...including nutrition, coping skills, exercise and other healthy lifestyle choices. :)

Feel free to check out our Resources at the top of the main forum page here for great self help material. ..and keep posting with us anytime for anxiety sharing and support. :)

Scaredy Cat
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"Courage is not the abscence of fear, it is feeling afraid and doing it anyway!"

"Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles...it empties today of its strength."
Corrie Ten Boom

Panic Syndrome recovery due to CBT

gilly2
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   Posted 11/17/2016 12:36 AM (GMT -6)   
All good sound advice above...
xx sending you strength xx
general anxiety - knock on effect to health anxiety -My down fall is always putting others
first but that's just who i am

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   Posted 11/18/2016 11:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi FL,

I'm sorry you're struggling so much right now, but it sounds like you're on the right path to figuring out what works for you. If in a few more weeks you don't feel like the medications have been helping, talk to your doctor, as there are others you can try.

Sending you big hugs!

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   Posted 9/18/2017 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
To the original post,

I just signed up on this site, I read you're post, and I think I may be able to help (not just you but others as well!). Let me give you and everyone a brief history...Always been a worry wart, started when I was oh about 5 years old lol. I remember always asking my parents things like: Hey is it normal for this bone to feel like this, is it supposed to hurt when I do this, etc. etc. lol. I had my first real anxiety attack when I was about 22 (39 right now) I was working 2 jobs, one as a manager for GNC (hence the screenname supplements) and worked as a bouncer at night. I was over worked, over stressed, and definately at my max breakdown for my body. Well one night closing up my store I noticed some shaking in my right arm, dismissed it as fatigue from doing a lot of stock that day. On my way home I remember I had an itch on my chest, went to scratch it, and I couldn't feel my skin! I stopped right there on the expressway and called 911. At the ER they did tests, ekg, blood panel, etc. and all came back normal...diagnosis anxiety attack. Well I remember the next 3 days was awful...I would be constantly aware of my heart, any minor twitch, and any "weird" feelings in my body. Went to my dr. and he said it's just anxiety, and put me on a low dose anxiety pill lorazepem .5 mg. I felt a ton better after about a week! Fast forward to recently: 6 years ago I lost both my parents within a year of each other (health related), my ex left me shortly after, and I was almost homeless (no place to stay). Stayed with my buddy, got back on my feet, and started a new job. 2 years ago I was diagnosed with non hodgkins lymphoma (cancer) stage 2. Just started a new job, no insurance, and no family to help me! I worked full time through all 6 rounds of chemo and it was hell! During 2nd round of chemo I woke up my heart being in Afib, I could feel it beat erratically! I went to the ER and had to be cardio converted back into normal sinus rhythm! Fast forward to today: I am cancer free going on 2 years, no heart issues (besides pvcs and pacs), and living with my girlfriend. Sorry this was so long but my point is this...DON'T WORRY about WHAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL, WHAT WILL BE WILL BE! If you spend all you're time worrying, you will make yourself sick, and you will stress you're body out! Some words of wisdom that help me out when I panic: Panicking and having anxiety is like rocking yourself in a chair...sure it gives you something to do but it won't get you anywhere! And if you are religious or even if you are not here is a passage: "I ask you this, by worrying, will it add any more seconds to you're life?" If you have had heart tests done, blood work done, and have been given a clean bill of health than leave it at that. The chances of something going very wrong overnight are very very slim. The heart and other organs in you're body are stupid strong, they can take a beating, and are designed to handle a ton! With today's medicine and technology, lets say something was wrong with you're heart, thyroid, etc. there is a great chance it is fixable! So I know it's easier said than done but try to learn to enjoy life, enjoy the things you do every day, and remember (if you're religious) God's got you, he won't ever leave you...I am proof of this! Be well and God bless smile

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 9/19/2017 8:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Supplements and welcome!

Thank you so much for sharing your personal story of victory with us.

I, and no doubt many others, have found it inspirational...and important reminder.

I am so pleased to hear that you are now free from your illness...

...and pray that you will continue to be healthy and happy.

Thanks again for your words, and post with us anytime, friend. 😊

Scaredy Cat
Moderator:Anxiety/Panic

"Courage is not the abscence of fear, it is feeling afraid and doing it anyway!"

"Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles...it empties today of its strength."
Corrie Ten Boom

Panic Syndrome recovery due to CBT
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