Positive vs negative thinking (anxiety related). Any good self help web sites?

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astroman
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   Posted 8/27/2017 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
This might be more of a psychology question..? But there isnt a forum here for that.

Anyway, I'm recovering from years of lyme, which does increase anxiety a LOT. Thats said, I'm now way better after decades. Us "lymies" learn a lot of herbal and natural supps to help along the way for that. Lyme effects the whole body, so its quite the learning experience too, incredibly overwhelming if you had symptoms a long time. I know what its like to be be blind, to only sleep 3 hours a night for years, to only being able to walk for one block. Thats all miraculously better now. What we dont talk about is brain or psyc recovery.

That said I'm digging deeper and realy want to "cleanse and calm" my mind for good - the new me will be better than before LOL!!

A lot is said about negative vs positive thinking. When your body has been stuck in a negative mode due years of chronic to illness, its hard to reverse. Chronic life altering illness can change thinking patterns for the worse. Anyone know of good links that help this? Chronic worry is obviously part of anxiety, not just chemical balances but also how your brain is "wired".

I can rewire trailer lights, but dont know how to re-wire my brain LOL. Its easier said than done.

Im not talking suicidal thoughts (dont have those thank god), just want to learn on concentrating on positive thinking and positive outcomes of life situations - like if your car transmission blew up, but the engine didnt. I also work in a negative environment, this is still increasing in the modern American work place after the US recession, so this can help in that area too.

I figure if any place on healing well know this, it might be here (?) I can goggle forever, but possibly save some time asking.

- On that note, I call myself a "realist", I look at issues head on to fix them. Whatever it is. Some so called positive people seem to think thats negative thinking LOL. I've heard this debate before. You cant ignore the ills of life, but you can make them better. A couple "fake happy" people I knew in life weren't so happy after all- to my surprise they suddenly ended their lives. They were fakes. Wow, sad. You can be positive without fooling yourself.

I'm real - if like gives you lemons, dont ignore it, make lemonade when possible. Thats my goal.

Anyone wondering about chronic lyme - yes, its real, what it can do to the whole body can last for years. There are many possible reasons why it turns chronic in some and not in others. But this is not the place to discuss that, so I wont. : )

Post Edited (astroman) : 8/27/2017 1:52:22 PM (GMT-6)


Rhosalina
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   Posted 8/27/2017 1:03 PM (GMT -6)   
That is exactly me too!! Im glad to read this. People think I am harsh but they all live in denial.. which is lying to yourself. I dont believe in lying so I have a hard time being compassionate towards them in certain situations. I am not a "Debbie Downer" but I defiantly am totally honest about whatever the situation. I think because of my honesty to myself it causes anxiety. If I could only tell myself white lies it may be easier. smile

astroman
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   Posted 8/27/2017 1:23 PM (GMT -6)   
One positive thing about getting older is you get to know yourself better. Its harder to understand one self when your young..I know, I've lived a while. Been there ha ha...

There is a difference between telling oneself "white lies" and looking at the positive side of things. Not the same.

Putting more memory or concentration on the positive side of out-comes without avoiding reality is challenging. But I want to learn how.

That said, I have met some very happy, calm , relaxed yet "clueless" people in my life. Maybe being "clueless" has its good side? LOL

On the other hand, its said recognizing negative possibilities is a survival instinct that works. You dont send army troops around a hidden corner expecting the Hawaiian Tropic girls serving margaritas on a beach.

Post Edited (astroman) : 8/27/2017 1:53:01 PM (GMT-6)


Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 8/27/2017 4:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Astroman and welcome!

I do agree that positivity plays a key role in how our thoughts, and as a result our feelings, will lean! When we practice thinking positively, and retrain negative tendencies such as disparaging self talk, a pessimistic outlook, catastrophic thinking, ect...

...we can, with time and practice, actually alter the brain's chemistry for the better...naturally increasing the beneficial neurotransmitters in the brain.

Now, as far as what you mentioned about faking okay, and having an overwhelming episode that ends in tragedy? Yes! Absolutely it is true that positive thinking can not fix everything...and there is a time and necessity for medical intervention for some. I strongly support the use of medication for when it is needed...just as a diabetic needs insulin...a person with mental challenges may need an A/D.

So each individual must work with their doctor/therapist/P-doc to ascertain their own unique management plan!

As far as links to help you with positivity? Take a look at our Resources at the top of the main forum page here! The Therapy Worksheets can help you re-work negative thinking into positive. Any link with CBT is worth a look...b/c CBT works on the principal of change your thinking, change how you feel...

...and finally, we have a link specifically for Positive Mantra and Affirmations. ;)

Please post with us anytime for encouragement. We are here to understand and support.

Scaredy Cat
Moderator:Anxiety/Panic

"Courage is not the abscence of fear, it is feeling afraid and doing it anyway!"

"Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles...it empties today of its strength."
Corrie Ten Boom

Panic Syndrome recovery due to CBT

Post Edited (Scaredy Cat) : 8/27/2017 4:39:23 PM (GMT-6)


astroman
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   Posted 8/27/2017 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Scaredy Cat said...
Hi Astroman and welcome!


. ... Any link with CBT is worth a look...b/c CBT works on the principal of change your thinking, change how you feel...

...and finally, we have a link specifically for Positive Mantra and Affirmations. ;)

Please post with us anytime for encouragement. We are here to understand and support.

Scaredy Cat


Hey that sounds good, now I know what to look for. I actually did try some meds back when lyme was rampant, in cases of lyme it doesnt do much. After lyme gets eradicated and the bodies detoxing starts to work, many of the aspects of "lyme brain" (fog, anxiety, forgetfulness, dyslexia) slowly improves.

Your info looks like a good start, I never heard those terms before- thanks!

kellyinCali
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   Posted 8/27/2017 10:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Astroman -- I think you might like this lecture: Science of Thought.

She attempts to prove that the mind can change the brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhANyrKpv8
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