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janetlee
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   Posted 9/21/2006 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
I know I was singing my new pdoc's praises and I still do think he's a nice caring person and a good pdoc. But being the worrier I am has got me to thinking...that's what GAD sufferers do afterall...too much.
Last night I did not take my xanax as I was not anxy (he said take as needed only). Today I get up and feel okay. I take the 50mg of zoloft (1/2 of what I've been on for the past week and 1/4 of what I'd been on all those years before that). I only took .25 xanax. By the early afternoon, I was getting anxy. Waves of anxiety were washing over me, so I took the other .25mg of xanax. (You may remember that, for the past week, I'd been taking .5mg 3x a day whether I was anxy or not.) Anyhow, it freaked me out and I felt like bursting into tears. So I called pdoc's office and receptionist said he was at hospital and took my home ph.# and cell ph.#. He never called me back. Now I'm scared bad, that I'm going to go downhill again, right when I was starting to get to the peak. In retrospect, I do have some questions that I'd like to ask him. It was all happening so fast. He is a rapid speaker and has a strong accent. He explained to me something that I didn't really understand as it was a totally new idea to me-He said something about how some pdocs overprescribe antidepressants to a patient and it actually ends up making some patients even more anxious, even though their intent is to lesswen the anxiety. He gave me an RX for Restoril even though I sleep okay at night. He said something about me being able to have a deep peaceful sleep, so that I'd wake up feeling more rested. He said to take it for 3 nights and then after that only as needed. I haven't taken that yet, but will tonight. I'm trying to be a good patient. It suprised me that he's weaning me off of zoloft so quickly. The NP was going to do it over a matter of months. He's planning on me being totally off of it in 4 more days. Oh yes, he also took me off of the buspar. He said it was actually meant for mild anxiety. To be truthful, I've never thought it did so great a job myself! As to the Paxil CR, he says he has no plans to increase me from 12.5mg. That suprised me as Harry had brought out that it is usually only effective at the minimum dose of 20mg. I'm just so overwhelmed with information and at the same time, feel like I have little information, if you can understand what I'm trying to say. This pdoc has honestly helped a LOT of people and apparently he's done a lot of research about these things. He doesn't seem to agree totally with a lot of the "standard cookie-cutter" approach to anxiety/depression. He's NOT an alternative pdoc though. He's not anti-xanax either, although he does prefer a person only use it as necessary. Tomorrow, I am going to take my xanax as I was doing previously at .5mg 3x a day, "come hail or high water"! I truly think he'd understand. He told me to expect possibly some increased anxiety when I was coming off zoloft, but I thought he meant when I was totally off it for the first few days or so...oh well! He felt that I'd be able to weather the anxiety, but siad I could call if I had any problems or questions.
Does ANYONE here have any similar experiences to any of this??? I need reassurance I suppose. I just want to get better so very bad! I've had 3 major episodes of anxiety this year already, after a number of years with little. I'm trying so hard to be sensible and patient. I try to give myself pep talks and also reprimand myself for thinking negatively... sad
Also, someone on another thread yesterday mentioned that they do CBT online and it's really helped her. She offered to send the info to anyone wanting it. I want  it!!! If you're reading this CBT-friend, please let me hear from you!
Thanks!
janet


"if there's someone you know and loving them so, but taking them all for granted, you may lose them one day, someone takes them away and they don't hear the words you long to say...I would give evrything I own just to touch you once again...just to hold you once again."
From the song "Everything I Own" by David Gates (Bread)
He wrote this for his father, after he passed away. Don't hold a grudge. It takes up so much room, it crowds out the love...
 
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If you want to keep things in perspective when the little things are getting you upset, say what I say: "And the starving children in Africa thought THEY had a problem!" Suddenly, the fact that you forgot to get an item at the store or dropped a glass of juice doesn't seem all that big a deal anymore.

Post Edited (janetlee) : 9/21/2006 8:13:21 PM (GMT-6)


Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/22/2006 5:17 AM (GMT -6)   
HI hun I do a CBT online it is MoodGymsTrainingPrograms.com...............it has worked for me ..........So sorry you are going thru all of this anst again .......
Please do listen to your doc okay for now at least he sounds like he is trying to help you out so much ........I have used Restoril in the past and it does give you a good sleep but needs to be taken when you are in bed perhaps reading and just about ready to doze off .......in the NH we had to give this to patients half hour prior to bed time .........the generic name is Temazapam.....I hope it helps you ......I do understand what you are sying what I am trying to say sweetie is realx and try to do what this doc wants you to for now
You always have our full support you know that right
Luvs ya
Lyn / Sis
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CounterClockwise
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   Posted 9/22/2006 7:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Janet,

Lyn's spot on here -- do give your doc a chance with what he's asking you to do. Withdrawal symptoms (including heightened anxiety) can occur even when you're just cutting down amounts of a med (basically because your body is expecting more than it's getting -- and Xanax is known for this), so don't let this alarm you: know that it is part of the process, and the withdrawal symptoms are short term, and the sooner you get through it the sooner the picture will be clearer for your doc to help you with any other changes needed. I would really advise not taking the old Xanax dosage without talking to your doc about this: after all, he did say you could phone him -- so maybe try him again (he probably just hasn't had a spare moment to get back to you so far).

As far as him talking quite fast goes, I'd take in a notebook next time and write things down to help you take it all in. Seeing you do this will probably make him slow down too (fairly standard natural reaction). And take in a list of all the questions you have and work through it with him.

Big hugs Janet. He really sounds like a good pdoc to me.

Rosie x
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janetlee
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   Posted 9/22/2006 5:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you both sweet friends!
The doc's office called this a.m. and pdoc said to stick with 100mg of zoloft for now. I still plan to keep xanax steady in my system though. I will cut down as I get better. That's what I've always done before. I never go extreme with xanax. I don't want it to lose it's effectiveness and after 12 years of it, I'm still okay with it. :)
Luv,
JaNut
"if there's someone you know and loving them so, but taking them all for granted, you may lose them one day, someone takes them away and they don't hear the words you long to say...I would give evrything I own just to touch you once again...just to hold you once again."
From the song "Everything I Own" by David Gates (Bread)
He wrote this for his father, after he passed away. Don't hold a grudge. It takes up so much room, it crowds out the love...
 
_____________________________________________________________
If you want to keep things in perspective when the little things are getting you upset, say what I say: "And the starving children in Africa thought THEY had a problem!" Suddenly, the fact that you forgot to get an item at the store or dropped a glass of juice doesn't seem all that big a deal anymore.


Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/22/2006 6:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Kudos glad you are sticking with this hun and this doc am proud of you ........take care sweetie
Luvs ta ya
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janetlee
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   Posted 9/22/2006 10:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyn,
I can always count on you to be so supportive and I want you to know that I appreciate it deeply!
Tomorrow evening, a friend of mine is going to come over and go over my medication history with me. Her dad worked for pfizer pharmaceuticals for years and he's taught her so much about meds. He has a degree in chemistry. She wants us to look and see if there were any changes in my meds anywhere near the times when I've had bad episodes this year and also to see about any drug interactions. She mentioned how beta-blockers can actually cause depression (I was aware of that), but I told her that I wanted to be on them cuz I'd rather have a little depression than panic attacks. The beta blocker helps ward them off by keeping the heartbeat slower. I think that the majority of my depression is caused by the anxiety anyhow. If I can get it under control, I honestly believe the depression will be pretty much taken care of. Well, it's time to take a shower. We just got back from cleaning offices...UGH!
Luv Ya!
JaNut
"if there's someone you know and loving them so, but taking them all for granted, you may lose them one day, someone takes them away and they don't hear the words you long to say...I would give evrything I own just to touch you once again...just to hold you once again."
From the song "Everything I Own" by David Gates (Bread)
He wrote this for his father, after he passed away. Don't hold a grudge. It takes up so much room, it crowds out the love...
 
_____________________________________________________________
If you want to keep things in perspective when the little things are getting you upset, say what I say: "And the starving children in Africa thought THEY had a problem!" Suddenly, the fact that you forgot to get an item at the store or dropped a glass of juice doesn't seem all that big a deal anymore.


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   Posted 9/23/2006 7:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Janet,

That's great that you've got your friend coming over to help you review your med history -- really useful info to know! Make sure you let your doc know any of your findings -- could really help with prescribing. Above all, have a nice time with your friend!! :)

Rosie x
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When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded...

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/23/2006 6:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I totally agree sweetie time for you to get back to the "old Janet " and I myself have a feeling it was the difference becuse of doc changing meds remember you spiraled right down .........I am so glad you are gonna have help with this as well .please log it and do take to doc with you as Rosie suggested..........Keep us posted hun
Luvya too
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janetlee
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   Posted 9/23/2006 10:39 PM (GMT -6)   
When my friend helped me sort out all the info, she wondered if the Atenolol was the culprit, as beta blockers can cause depression. I told her that I'd rather take a chance with depression than with panic attacks...!! I think that by having ONE pdoc consistently, things are bound to get better!!! Tonya (my friend that helped me today) has dealt with anxiety isuues and depression her whole life. Both her mom and dad's backgrounds include family member suicides, bipolar, anxiety, paranoia, and so forth. Tonya herslf has suffered from panic attacks since she was a toddler! I have so much respect for her! How blessed I am to have friends here at home and on this forum!! I want the old Janet back too...she's been peeping thru more often as you've likely noticed! LOL!!!
Thank you all so much! I just love you guys so much and i want to be here for you too!
Luv,
Jnaet
"if there's someone you know and loving them so, but taking them all for granted, you may lose them one day, someone takes them away and they don't hear the words you long to say...I would give evrything I own just to touch you once again...just to hold you once again."
From the song "Everything I Own" by David Gates (Bread)
He wrote this for his father, after he passed away. Don't hold a grudge. It takes up so much room, it crowds out the love...
 
_____________________________________________________________
If you want to keep things in perspective when the little things are getting you upset, say what I say: "And the starving children in Africa thought THEY had a problem!" Suddenly, the fact that you forgot to get an item at the store or dropped a glass of juice doesn't seem all that big a deal anymore.


Howlyncat
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   Posted 9/24/2006 7:17 AM (GMT -6)   
yeah  Yeppers I have being seeing the "ole Janet " peeping thru more and more :-)  and I love it
you always were up happy and here for everyone you made the baord so much fun even with all that was going on ya know
It IS gonna get better all the way and you are goona be hard to stop I just know it
I will never stop supporting you my sis never nono   nono   nono   nono
Get that into you OKAY..........
you have so many that care and luv ya you have no idea but you will when you are back on track sweetie
its coming I know it is and I am so porud of you you went thru HADES and still are here with us ,....you never gave up,you fought and fought tongue
Thats the Janet I know and luvs.........  :-)
yeah  Later sweetie ..........Be proud please we are


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Post Edited (Howlyncat) : 9/24/2006 6:22:16 AM (GMT-6)


Wayupnorth
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   Posted 7/10/2013 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Janet you are verylucky to have such good caring friends. I know what it is like to feel you are an island fighting waves all by yourself. I myself am on 200 mgs. zoloft, 60 mgs. Prozac and they just started me on Effexor at12.75. Have been on it for 14 days and they want me to start doubling it. I woke up with the worst anxiety this morning and my bed was soaken wet. I know you sweat a lot on Effexor but this is ridiculous. My pdoc is on vacation and I don't see her until the 17th, so I am trying to just get through one day at a time. Yesterday my arms and hands were itchy and some say you can get hives from Effexor - let me tell you that is the last thing I need right now.

Thanks for letting me vent, I used to be a happy productive person, not this person I see in the mirror, trying to just survive another day.

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   Posted 7/10/2013 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey WUN,

I am sorry to hear of your anxiety and Rx/side effect trouble. This thread is rather old, and therefore you may not hear from the OP's...but I wanted to make sure that you know that you are being heard and supported here!

Hang in there until the 17th...and keep posting with us, and we will try and help you get through until then!

Talk to you soon,

S.C.
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Wayupnorth
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   Posted 7/10/2013 11:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for answering me. Didn't realize it was an old post.
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