Help RE: Heart Palps and heart issues .........

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leahbeans
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   Posted 11/7/2006 7:01 PM (GMT -6)   
sad  Help please, I need some advice.  Although I hate saying it, I have suffered from anxiety/panicattacks for 3 years now.  Initially in the first year I thought something was wrong with my heart because all of a sudden it would skip a beat and then race uncontrollably (140-150).  I had a 3 week holter monitor, 24-hour holter monitor, numerous EKG's, an ultrasound of my heart structures and blood work and reassurance.  Well once in a while my heart will race, I have a naturally higher resting heart rate, probably because I'm out of shape after having 3 kids.  Anyways, for the past year it seems, but more so in the past few months, my heart skips a beat A LOT.  Today it probably skipped 50 times or so.  I have been focusing on it and fearful of it happening.  I went inot the doctor a few months back and she said she isnt concerned unless I pass out or something, and that her re-assurance will hopefully be enough.  There will be weeks that go by where I might feel one here or there and I shrug it off, but its these days in a row where it's pretty consistent all day unless I take a Klonopin. Do I go through with these tests again.?  Or do I just pray for a miracle to re-focus and try even harder to move away from these thoughts.  But what if it's not all my thoughts.  Ugh I'm so confused frustarted and depressed. I get so scared and alone, wondering if somthing is really wrong.  But I am 25 years old, other than panic I am in good health, I always go to the doctor.  I just cant seem to find the cycle of these suckers, and I want them to dissapear because i let them take control of my thoughts/days/life.  Any advice would be extremely helpful. 
Thank You so much for your time.
Leah
Added a title to your thread you get answers faster and more of them IMO if there is a title so ppl know what it is about
You can change title self if you want okay
Lyn

Post Edited By Moderator (Howlyncat) : 11/8/2006 7:28:15 AM (GMT-7)


mr shadow
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   Posted 11/7/2006 8:23 PM (GMT -6)   
At 25 I never expected to be in the sad shape I'm in now. I'm going to save the events leading up to my panic disorder, however, I saw your age and felt I needed to speak up. When my first panic attack hit me I was at work and subsequently thought I was having a heart attack! My fingers got numb, my wrists hurt and my heart dropped within my chest. I had one of my girls call an ambulance and during that time my heart went what felt like a rollercoaster of beats. First it skipped...I think... then it just started racing. It only took the paramedics 5 mins to get there, but it felt like an eternity. My heart rate was 170bpm!!! I excercise at 150bpm, so it was a bit much to handle, I just kept thinking that "this was it", "I'm dead". But of course it wasn't and I'm still alive. From the forums here I noticed that people tend to worry about death alot as part of panic. Unfortunately, panic is so closely relates to heart palpitatons. I have them regularly, but less since I started Lexapro. Are you on any meds? If not, you need to talk to your doctor. What happens is a viscious cycle of you worring about your heart, just randomly, which can lead to a palpitation, and you start yourself on a panic, the panic makes your heart race, so you worry about your heart...sound right? Do you drink coffee? Smoke? Eat poorly? Part of my problem was that I managed a coffee shop which made it hard to eat right, and I'm a smoker. My doctor said that those are the three worst things you can do as a panic-er. After a few more panic attacks (at least I knew I wasn't dying) I went to the doctor and we discussed meds and diet. I went on Lexapro, and played with the dosage a little, after a few weeks the panic lessened. I also strickly ate healthy, no fast food at all. No coffee or anything else with caffine, I gave up every junk food invented. Sad sad sad... But 6mos later and 45lbs shed I felt great. I also would pose to you the question of your body, are you in shape? It helps alot if you know your taking care of yourself, you feel as if you're staving off disease, which makes you feel healthier and worry less about possible heart problems. After all this I put some of the weight back on and started eating crap again, I feel miserable and notice the heart pains coming back. But I'm dieting again. I left the meds due to lack of insurance for the time being, but I definately have chest pains and palps again...So take care of yourself and body, it makes all the difference. Oh yeah meds do too! Considering you describe what so many others do, don't waste time taking tests you know don't give you answers. Focus yourself on making your body happy again. :-)

Patty B.
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   Posted 11/7/2006 8:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Gosh, you pretty much describe me and my frustration with heart palpitations and racing.
I have had 3 kids to but I am 43 (my youngest is 3) and I have noticed that my palpitations, rapid heart beat have gotten worse in the last couple years but have had them since I was in my early teens.
I have never really found a pattern in all this but I have my suspicions around being too tired and also hydration for some activity but not all. When I'm really tired I am plagued at night--and I find that sleeping on my heart side sometimes sets off palps until I switch sides or shift around. If I do not drink much I feel sludgy and get stronger beats--as though my blood is thicker and harder to pump. I stopped consuming caffeine to start and any cold meds that can get your heart racing. Once I read that peanuts were good for the heart and started eating peanuts everytime I felt a time of high palpitation activities but found that maybe there was a placebo effect that worked at first but pretty much lost it's effects--I was very hopeful of that.
What were the results of you halter monitors? Those, however, always seemed to be the cure for me--they never picked anything up and could stop a session dead eyes . Were pvc,pac s (premature ventricular contractions, premature atrial contractions) mentionned? Everyone has them and are normal--those are the skips and can come one at a time or mixed up.
I understand the sharp focus that you can have on your heart, been there done that, doing that to--no matter how strong or assured I was that my heart is 100% (tests ,halters, cardiologists...) I can never really believe it. Finally I went to the doc's to ask for help coping with this and what was becoming more apparent a general anxiety and anxiety attacks and was given paxil for some relief to get my life back. So far so good at six weeks.
I wish that I could give you more info than just tell you about me but that is all I know and have never really done deep research on this--just too many variables in medicine for little ol' me to understand and all the connections. But know that I have been experiencing the heart stuff for the better part of 30 years, through college, ice sports, a stressful 15 year carreer, and three child births, I have never popped a gasket and am still around but none the less frustrated by not being able to at least figure it out for me--I hope that you can be more successful.
Patty B.

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leahbeans
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   Posted 11/7/2006 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   
My Holter monitor showed "sinus tachycardia"(normal fast heart rythm) and some PVC's and some PAC's. My doctor said there were times were I had a skipped beat but I didn record it and times that I recorded it and there was nothing to record, there were also times I did accurately record a skipped beat. All in all she sat me down with a cardio. and he reassured me I was fine offered a beta-blocker which I declined and thats where I'm at here 2 years later.
Leah Beans
 
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jordaNZone
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   Posted 11/7/2006 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Leah you have all the answers in your first posting...just need to put them into practice..now that's the hard part!
Are you on meds for anxiety or depression? This could be a solution to help you over this rough patch..just a thought..meds aren't for everyone I know.
You mention that you feel you are focusing too hard on what your heart is doing..think we all do that when we are anxious..and if it's not that we dream up another symptom..sheesh we have busy brains lol!
Have you thought about seeing a counsellor? They really help get the yuk stuff out..and teach us new skills to cope when things are a little bleak!
Anyhow I wish you well.
Take good care.
Maree

GFK
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   Posted 11/7/2006 10:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Maree. You also said that when you took Klonopin the palps go away. Seems to me if it were heart related that would not happen. It is really hard to get out of the vicious thought circle. I couldnt have done it without the psycologist I wound up going to. If therapy alone doesnt work, there are meds (SSRIs) that will help.

There is no need to be embarassed about A/P (I can say that now after 11 years!). Seriously though, its much more common than you'd think. It is not a weakness (I struggled with that thought for quite a while). There's been discussions here and the consensus seemed to be that its caused by behavioral patterns and/or chemical levels. I totally agree. I'm a worryer and a perfectionist - had things under control after a few months of therapy. Then after my second child was born (I was 31), I had post=partum depression really bad and my A/P came back with a vengence. (I think chemical changes after that birth had alot to do with it). I needed meds then; now I am on what I call a low "maintenance" dose that gives me that little bit extra I need to keep a handle on it.

You can get control back (and I'm sure you will!). Just be patient and plug away at it.

Best of luck,
Karen

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Howlyncat
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   Posted 11/8/2006 9:31 AM (GMT -6)   
I too agree with Maree on this ...........
as well as others that have nentioned about palps going away with Klonopin
if it was heart related it (they would not go away )
Please try some therapy or relaxation techniques to see if this may help
I am surre others will post as well to give you input
You take care and be well
Lyn
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Daisysmom
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   Posted 11/9/2006 12:43 AM (GMT -6)   

Hi,

I don't know if this helps any, but I read somewhere that there was a study of people with high blood pressure. Something about people would try to save on medication costs and only take the pills when they thought their BP was high. But the study showed the people couldn't accurately guess whether their BP was in a high or normal range.

I think of that, because sometimes I think my heart is doing something weird, but how would I really know that?

I started taking Lexapro because the chest pain I was having literally hurt and I was just sick of it. It wasn't even that I was worrying about it. (Though I was worrying a lot about my job security and related issues.)  It just hurt and made me want to curl up in bed. I figured since I jog and never have had a heart attack while jogging, that it must not be real heart disease. (And I have had all the tests that show my heart is fine.)

I think there are a lot of good forms of aerobic exercise out there that will get your heart pumping in a good way -- and when you get it working like that, maybe you will have more faith in your physical health. Try exercise classes or bike riding or whatever... just a thought.

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andwes
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   Posted 11/9/2006 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I can echo all the posts I've read here this morning regarding those darn heart palps!!!  I had episodes of skipping/irregular/fast heartbeats since I was in my early teens (and I'm 59 now)  Sometimes they'd last for days, weeks and sometimes months on end before I'd get any relief.  I too had all the tests, etc. and only found that I have a mild heart murmur from when I had Rheumatic Fever at age 7.  I've also suffered from anxiety/panic all my life so I know this has contributed to it....not to mention the fact that I've also been a chronic hypochondriac since age 7 - right after leaving the hospital from my Rheumatic Fever.  I'm at the point now that I can't go to a doctor without my blood pressure going SKY HIGH....I'm not only terrified that I'll be diagnosed with a fatal disease but I'm so convinced that I'm ready to drop from a stroke any minute that the BP just goes crazy as soon as the doc puts on the cuff.  So us poor AP sufferers are just victims of our own disease....it brings on so many symptoms that feel so real yet are by-products of this darn AP.  People who don't have a nerve in their bodies can never understand what we go through but at least places like this can make you feel that you're not alone.
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