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Aussieangel
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   Posted 1/8/2007 3:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys,

Since hospital I've been up and down with the downs now far out weighing the good. I rang my pdoc who said I need to swap my effexar xr (something I'd been saying the whole time I was in hospital).

She wanted me to go to back into hospital so we rang and warned the crisis team we were coming (we'd spent the last 3 days in contact with them because I was so bad). They made us wait at hospital for over 4hrs as they had the cranks that we would dare just come to hospital (even though they later found our message).

They were quite nasty and said to me ask you doc to talk to your pdoc (the pdoc rarely answers calls even from other doctors) and organise a home withdrawal and start of new drug. They wouldn't even bring out the pdoc whose care I was under in hospital who could have organised this.

I need to know, can an SSRI be introduced while slowly weaning off the effexar? It can't be zoloft as I've built a tolerance to it.

I need to gather as much info for my normal doc early in the morning.

Thanks in advance guys.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/8/2007 4:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I am not sure about this but I think you getting all the info you can will help you out
I beieve Effexor is an SSRI....
There are other ones out there and I would make sure you are very truthful to your doc about what happened at the hospital
Totally not right and unethical IMO
Keep us posted and sorry I wasnt much help
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Lyn
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Aussieangel
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   Posted 1/8/2007 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lyn,

Effexor is a SNRI and it is linked to the old tricyclics. They never worked for me which is one of the reasons I had my doubts about advanza and effexor.

My doc probably wouldn't believe me, they seem to stick up for each other. I told them today I was sick of being treated as a 2nd class citizen simply because I have a mental illness. Hubby was there and heard me tell them the truth which he'd heard or saw at home happening then the crisis team belittling me trying to tell me it was all in my prospective only. mad

The only info I can find is effexor withdrawal is meant to be bad and that you have to be careful of an od of seratonin syndrome when adding an SSRI. Boy I hope my normal doc knows more then I give her credit for otherwise I'll be in hospital anyway because if it gets as bad as my last cold turkey I'm calling an ambulance. If I'm running into walls and collapsing onto the ground while my muscles seize into weird positions they'll have to admit me. yeah

Anyway I'll touch base tomorrow and let you know what we've worked out. I've organised care for the kids for this week and will be staying at my mums while hubby is at work, so at least that's a start.

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   Posted 1/8/2007 7:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for that info I am glad you corrected me .....I appreciate it
I hope all works out for you
You certainly need to catch a break
Yes please keep us posted okay
Know we are here for you
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Lyn
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ozfm
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   Posted 1/8/2007 7:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Aussieangel

I'd be really intersted to know how you go..... I have weaned off SSRI's and introduced new ones twice before, however I am now wanting to wean off Effexor XR as I'm having unpleasant side effects. I would like to just wean off and never be on any meds again (wishful thinking perhaps), but if I do have to go on other meds, I'd like to know how you go.

Good luck with it all.
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Aussieangel
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   Posted 1/8/2007 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Basically my GP doesn't have the experience and wondered why the hospital sent me there. She tried ringing our local psych unit and got given the brush off and is still waiting for my pdoc to ring her.

It seems most people won't touch me because I have a private pdoc..... one who has stuffed me around and you can never get in contact with. The hospital admitted yesterday that they should have placed me under their mental health team 10 months ago but they slipped up and because I've now got my pdoc they don't want to help.

I'm at loss as what to do, my doc just wants to cold turkey me again at home and she's not even sure what to then try on me. My kids are being really effected by all this, even my 5yr old knows I'm a different mummy to last year. 2 of them missed their pre-school and primary school graduations due to me being in hospital and really just want this all sorted before school restarts as one starts high school and one starts infants.

I'm so exhausted by all the tears and stress and can already feel the brain tingles from taking less efferor today. Why is it so hard to get help, instead of all this running around trying to palm people off onto other areas if they just did it right in the first place they'd save time and resources.

Aussieangel
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   Posted 1/9/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Yesterday me doc decided to basically cold turkey me again and then start me on an SSRI after my pdoc the day before wanted this.

I got a call at lunchtime then from my doc saying my pdoc called her and had decided that an dffexor withdrawal would be too hard so she wants me to stay on it and see a counsellor instead. mad

Do these doctors never listen to you? I don't know how many times I've told them that SNRI meds don't work for me.

Anyway I've started the withdrawal, but will see the pdoc tomorrow as she finally squeezed me in. I've been told by a friend who's a paramedic it's best to keep the docs paperwork up to date or they can turn around and say your doing things off your own head and aren't in control of your mind allowing them to play politics and then have you committed. nono

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   Posted 1/9/2007 6:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Aussie,
Have you ever tried Cymbalta? It is a SNRI also, but maybe it would work? If you have a tolerance to Zoloft (like I have) other SSRis, such as Lexapro, Paxil or prozac, may not work either, being in the same class as Zoloft. That might be why your pdoc wanted you to try the Effexor. How long have you been on it and what side effects are you having? Is it mostly for anxiety or depression or both?
Hang in there girl! HUGS!!!
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Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/10/2007 2:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Aussie
You sure are having a time of it
I would suggest you go with what the doc and your friend has said .........
You know you need help right so hun please take it if offered
We are here for you
Luvs
Lyn

Sorry bout what your kids are going thru do you have family that will help you out at all ??
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Aussieangel
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   Posted 1/10/2007 3:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks guys,

I rang beyond blue today which is a depression/ anxiety phone line in Australia. The lady was great listened to my story and was very angered along with me by the treatment I've been copping.

She gave me some phone numbers of docs who do extra mental health training on their own accord and I saw one today. I spent almost 2hours typing up all that's happened from the last 10mths so she could read it, rather then having me forget bits. She sat there shaking her head and turned to me and said the crisis team are a bunch of idiots and she doesn't like them either as they don't help people. tongue

I'm still weaning off the effexor, she said every 2 days drop down the 75mg and then rang the private psych hospital as they have a clinic there and got me an appointment with a new pdoc. It's actually cheaper to see him too. yeah She said my pdoc should not have me on all these drugs and as she doesn't seem to know what to do with me she should have referred me ages ago to another pdoc for a second opinion.

This doctor was great, we were going to discuss new meds but as I'll be seeing the pdoc in 2 days she said she'll leave it up to him as he is more experienced. After doing more research I'm still thinking Cipramil (not sure of it's name over there). She also said to me if I feel really bad to head to mums and go to the hospital there as it's a different area with different staff.

ATM I feel really hopeful and positive about the future, hopefully the feeling will stay. I was told it's normal to feel really scared of being alone, as my meds not working it's part of my current condition but once we get back on the right med, I'll be so happy to get time alone again.

Janet, none of the SNRIs I've tried have worked, they just don't work. I've had only mild side effects it's the fact I still get into deep depression and cry for hours that's the problem. I've been on effexor for about 4months, at least 5 weeks at the 300mg mark.

Lyn, thanks for listening and supporting me, I've been taking the kids down to mums but she's elderly and not well so I'm trying not to over burden her. My inlaws think if they see the kids once a fortnight they've done their job, even though they both drive and the MIL is younger and fully retired at home.

Howlyncat
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   Posted 1/10/2007 4:40 AM (GMT -6)   
N/P am hear always
BTW I hope you get the help you need asap
Luvs
Lyn
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