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jordaNZone
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   Posted 1/22/2007 10:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Does anyone out there share my anxiety about flying? And how the heck do you get thru it all? I have two planes to catch on saturday aarrrgh!
Maree

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   Posted 1/22/2007 11:22 PM (GMT -7)   
I wish I could help but I don't know if I can.

Taking the benzos if you have them can help... and also bringing magazines or music and maybe humming along with the words?

Or bringing a good book or some type of game like Sudoku or something handheld? Or maybe a movie with the portable dvd player?

I'm sure others will be more helpful. This is all I could think of.

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   Posted 1/23/2007 1:07 AM (GMT -7)   
  Hi jordaNZone, I don't have a fear of flying but I do have a fear of highs funny EH but when I ride on a plane I like the window seat that way I can just look outside but if I were you I would bring along your anxiety meds like valium or whatever you have. I've owned my own plane for years before I got diabetes and had to sell it God I really miss flying my own plane but if you can fly in Alaska you can fly anywear and your flight team has had a lot of training and hours put in so you will be in safe hands.
 
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   Posted 1/23/2007 3:20 AM (GMT -7)   
Know we are all with ya in spirit hun k
I dont know about flying not ever been on a plane lol
Actually never been to far out of Ontario
I think Normal will be along to help ya out she went thru this a few times
Luvs ya
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normalsnofun
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   Posted 1/23/2007 4:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok ok where to start...I guess I have some questions about the flights...first off are you traveling alone or with someone...I know it may not sound like it matters but does make a difference for me at least...Second how long is the flight... Third what is your biggest issue with flying?

Now some tips or tricks...I can not give pointers on a med to take or anything but if you take meds obviously bring and use as directed...For me it helps to have things planned out from the moment you leave the house till the moment you get to your final destination...ask lyn I showed up to her place in december with 6-7 different folders of information from flight infos to rental confirmations to identification etc...remember they suggest you be at the airport atleast 2 hours before your flight...check out the travel websites about what you can and cant take on a plane...The less problems you have getting through security the less anxiety it will cause...if you are traveling with someone make sure they are on the same page as far as plans...Do take with you something non electronic to do during take off or landing like a book or word puzzle or sudoku...if you are on a long trip i suggest a laptop or music or a dvd player if you can...they may sound like simple things but any distraction is a good distraction...also I find it helpful to check out a map of the airport before I get there...Helps to plan routes and you dont get lost so easy...less lost...less anxiety...be prepared at security to have your ID ready with your ticket and you might have to take your shoes off and send em through the x-ray and if you have a laptop take it out of your bag and run it through scanner seperate...Also be sure to take all metal off before going through metal detectors (watches belts phones keys change etc...I find im calmer if i make it through security without a hitch... Depending your airline you may be able to choose your seat...I have found that the isle works best for me cause I dont like to feel more confined than I am...you should be able to find out what type of plane you are flying and can google airplane seating charts or something to that effect and get a layout of the plane...

I hope some of that helps...I flew on 5 planes in 06 and 1 in 07 so far so if you have questions feel free to contact me... oh and I also chew gum while flying...
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   Posted 1/23/2007 5:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Lyn :)

and I totally agree with Michelle here... I just couldn't put into words as good as she can.. haha

Remember to try and ENJOY your trip too!!!! Have as much fun as you can dear!!! :)


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   Posted 1/23/2007 5:25 AM (GMT -7)   
NO probs sweetie ,,,,,,.........YOU tried right thas what counts
Outta line that was ........
Luvs ya
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Twiggygal
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   Posted 1/23/2007 5:28 AM (GMT -7)   
some people just don't like me I guess

doesn't bother me tho ;)

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MsKittie
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   Posted 1/23/2007 5:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Hello Maree
 
Sorry I'm replying to this a little late. I see you have already recived some great advice here from our other friends. I have never flown but have always wanted too I just don't have anywhere to fly too...lol. Try to enjoy this new experiance and I will be waiting to hear how it went when you get back.
 
Lyn great job hun you are always on your toes. yeah
 
Twiggy we love you always... yeah
 
Normal great advice... yeah
(((HUGS)))
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normalsnofun
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   Posted 1/23/2007 5:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Twiggy I think you actually hit the nail on the head with distraction you just gave it in a nutshell and i rambled...Its still really fresh in my mind as i only got home jan 6
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Twiggygal
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   Posted 1/23/2007 6:09 AM (GMT -7)   
Better to have it fresh on the mind then try to ramble on about things you can't remember


hehehehe


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normalsnofun
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   Posted 1/23/2007 6:50 AM (GMT -7)   
Almost forgot break it down into almost phases...do not think or the trip in its entirety (except for original planning) or it will become overwhelming...

Yes I ramble...
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jordaNZone
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   Posted 1/23/2007 11:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Wow..I have the greatest support team ever! yeah Thank you All sooo much for your helpful tactics..my flights are an hour each..which doesn't sound much now I am typing it but seems an eternity when you have to do it lol!
I have lorazapam to take for anxiety..and with all your warm and positive thoughts I guess I will be fine.. tongue
(special thanx to Twiggygal, Michelle, MsKittie, Lyn and Dave  ~ you all ROCK big time xoxoxo)
Maree

freezinginAK
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   Posted 1/24/2007 2:55 AM (GMT -7)   

  I hope that your flight go's well for you jordaNZone and please try to injoy it as I do flying and let us know how you did.

  Cowboy up


normalsnofun
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   Posted 1/24/2007 5:27 AM (GMT -7)   
An hour each way is a good size flight...The one to buffalo for me (my most recent) was 1.5 hours out and 1 hour back...Definately bring a book or something non electronic to distract you because with an hour flight you will probably only have about 30 min or allowable electronics...books and such you can do teh whole time...take off and landing are most of the time worse for me so something non electronic works well for me...Also I am not sure if I said it before but if you are good at tunnel visioning (tuning everything else out) it is a good technique once you are seated and taxing...also you can try and guide yourself to a mental safe place like a river bank or and open fiels in spring etc.
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   Posted 1/24/2007 6:24 AM (GMT -7)   

Hey there Normal :-)

I'm not planning anything at the mo , but I know one day I will need to fly as Stu and I have talked about where we would like to visit when Saf's older.

He takes everything in his stride so I haven't mentioned that the thought of flying scares the cr4p out of me , and the thought of having a PA infront of of ppl......don't even go there.

I'm not on any meds , but I think I would ask the doc for something for flying. I know it's prolly mostly anticipatory but it doesn't make it any easier.

What was it like getting to the bathroom - personal Q but this is one of my main concerns after the PAing on everyone. I know when I'm on a train I'm always worried I'm gonna fall on somebody on the way there cos of the trains motion.

Thanks for all the info on the earlier post , I like planning - it totally helps.

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hopeful82
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   Posted 1/24/2007 6:59 AM (GMT -7)   
I never was scared of flying until I developed GAD almost two years ago. I just get really freaked out during take off, especially when they make a turn while you're still going up!! AHH!! Anyways, closing my eyes and leaning my head back on the seat is the best way for me to keep myself oriented. Looking out the window or looking ahead of me is too much. Then once I finally feel that we have leveled off I will open my eyes. I just pretend I was sleeping or something :)

Also, once you're reached your flying altitude where they said you can take off your seatbelts the plane barely moves at all. Walking down the aisles is a sinch, so I wouldn't worry about it, its not at all like a train.

Makes me sad that I feel this way now because I never used to. I flew all the time as a kid and was never phased by it... oh well... hopefully I'll get back to that place again :)
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   Posted 1/24/2007 8:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Hopeful is right once you hit cruising altitude it is usually pretty smooth sailing...There are the occasional bouts of turbulance these are normal...especially when there are high winds. This affects more the take off and landing but can affect the flight somewhat...as hopeful said it is NOTHING like a train...even in most turbulance you can navigate pretty easily...depending the type of plane you have will determine the size of the isles...Bigger plane bigger isle...I wish you guys the best and any other questions feel free and ask away...
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   Posted 1/24/2007 8:55 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, I know how you feel about planes. I flat out refuse to get on one and I have never been on one before. I have tried before to get on one but I cant I just cant. So All I can say is good luck and I wish you the best!

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   Posted 1/24/2007 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
Good luck and have fun Maree!

I'm really glad you asked this question! Just made reservations to go to Disney (Fla) at the end of Feb for a long weekend and I am FREAKING about flying! Everyone's responses have really helped alot. I too am gonna ask for Xanax or something for the flight. I've only flown once before and had a scare - some freezing rain on the runway had the plane skidding after touchtown. Thought I was gonna live through the scene from the movie Airplane when it crashes into the terminal!!

I have the typical fears, but what scares me the most is being stuck up there if I really start panicing. Our flight is 2.5 hours. Figured we'd be best with a non-stop - less up and down and dont have to worry about forcing myself to get on the connection!

Take care all,
Karen

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   Posted 1/24/2007 10:08 PM (GMT -7)   

  Just remenber That your flight team has has gone tought so much trianing and have 1000's of hours logged in from power on full, pulling up hard and stalling the plane as well as power off stalls wear the plane is actally falling down from the sky and then able to control it back to a level fight and on a crosswind landing you will see that the plane is flying with one wing down into the wind (called crabbing into the wind on landing) this tends to keep the plane in line with the runway and at the last point he will level out the plane and point the plane straght with the runway and land, just a few facts to know about how your flight team has been trained.

  I have logged over 600 hrs of flying in a small bush plane pa12 piper here in Alaska sometimes useing only a GPS as there are little land marks to fly by and the only really problem I had was on a landing on a small strip and blow out a tire on a rock, had to stuff it with ground  moss and what ever I could find to fill the tire up with and deflate the other tire just to take off and land on the airstrip, had to bring it in at a very low speed just before stalling and then flaring it out to land

  So please remenber that you are safer in a plane then driving a car

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Zenyoga4u
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   Posted 1/25/2007 6:27 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been on a plane 8 different times, and all 8 times, I've had motion sickness. Its not the thought of crashing or anything like that, its literally the take off and landing and any turbulence in between where we move around and visually I can't see the movement. (Clouds, night flying..no way...) My motion sickness is just too strong.

The only way I got through it in the past was to sit at a window, next to my spouse, over a wing (less movement), and I'd gaze out the window staring at the horizon. We'd hold hands, and once leveled, I could sit a little easier. But every take off and landing is a nightmare where I'm fixed at the window, silently chanting the "Hail Mary" hundreds of times till I'm in a zone and numb, with my leg bouncing a million miles an hour...waiting to level off or land.

Quite frankly, to me, its just not worth the anxiety and thankfully my spouse understands how bad it is for me. Now we simply do road trips for vacations instead. It may take longer, but at least I'm happier.

If only they could give me a shot and instantly knock me out 5 min before takeoff, and then give me a shot and instantly wake me up once the plane has landed. Better yet, how about the old Star Trek "energize me" method of travel...?

Sorry if this doesn't help at all...

jordaNZone
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   Posted 2/5/2007 6:15 PM (GMT -7)   
Well I did it! Phew..I was really 'wired'  but hey, I managed all airflights without lorazapam..had a great holiday tongue
Learned to lift my feet off the floor when the 'potholes' in the sky became a bit much lol!
Kinda proud of myself really yeah
Once again I would have been lost without your support to start thanx soo much...
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   Posted 2/5/2007 8:46 PM (GMT -7)   
Congratulations!! You faced your fear and did it!!

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   Posted 2/5/2007 10:05 PM (GMT -7)   
Major congrats...Great to hear...
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