Heart flutterings, flip-flop feelings???

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RDCB
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   Posted 2/1/2012 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   

I'm glad that I found this website, especially this morning. It seems that most evenings I have the heart "flip-flop" and it gets worse as bedtime approaches. I have chronic insomnia and I think I'm having panic attacks because I'm afraid I'll lie awake all night (again). I've been to psychiatrists, sleep doctors and my primary care physician, but they don't seem to understand how HARD it is for me to sleep and as I try to go to sleep my heart is "flipping and flopping" which makes it doubly hard to falling asleep. Now the "flip-flop" is happening during the day but only when I am sitting. I'm sure they are anxiety attacks. I have had my heart checked out in every way - even a sonogram of my heart! I am perfectly healthy but the "flip-flops" feel awful. The psychiatrist gave me some Lorazepam but it has stopped helping. I'm glad I found these postings….. Now I know I'm not going to die!

Thanks for being here!

 


Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 2/1/2012 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi RDCB and welcome!

Yes, you are not alone, and the palps are not going to bring you down. It is a common anxiety symptom.

My doctor told me that just about everyone experiences these, but only some of us notice them...lucky us!, lol.

Please feel free to post anytime...you can also start your own thread of introduction anytime that you feel comfortable doing so...this way more memebers can recognize and welcome you as a newcomer.:)

Take care,
Scaredy Cat
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Jessiepooh
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   Posted 2/1/2012 12:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Rdcb,

I had these darn things for months without stopping, had all the heart tests and even a holster monitor for 3 days hooked up, I found with my PAC's/PVC's they were related to eating msg and soy, once I got away from all MSG and Soy, they virtually stopped, took about 2 weeks but man, what a relief, I remember the doc had me on xanax, valium and ALMOST had me taking some med for heart attack victims, but, I refused to take it, they had told me what I had was common, related to stress and anxiety and was not a problem, but, wrote me a rx for heart meds to make your heart "have to work less to pump" I was *boggled* why would I take something like that, if I didn't need to worry about it according to them, so I didn't take the meds, went on about my life and met someone who had me get off all msg, soy, artificial sweeteners and they WENT AWAY within 2 weeks, and these heart flutters I had, were constant all day every day for about 3 months, they started off slow, and built their way up to all day long, talk about panic!

Anyway, I hope this info helps ya out, good luck.

-Jessie

Jess2010
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   Posted 2/1/2012 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes I have them to a lot!!! the last time I went to the ER I had a skipped feeling which did not show up on the EKG and also my doc heard one while she was listening to me and all of the doc I have been to ( around 15) all said it was anxiety and stress which is hard to believe when they keep popping up.

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RDCB
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   Posted 2/2/2012 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   

I know what you mean about having that awful feeling in your chest and the doctor’s tell you it's only anxiety and stress. After reading some of the posts I was waiting to leave for an appointment that I was dreading. My chest was really “flip-flopping” and I felt BAD, so I decided to take a Lorazepan (2mg) (for anxiety) that a doctor had given me but I wasn’t taking. Within 20 minutes the awful feeling in my chest completely went away! I guess I do have anxiety….. When I told my husband about this he said that I worry about things ALL the time. I still find it hard to believe that such an awful feeling in my chest is caused by anxiety.


RDCB
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   Posted 2/2/2012 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks, Jessiepooh –

 

The ONLY thing I drink is decaffeinated, tea sweetened with Aspertame. I'm going to try to switch to water for a while and see if that helps.

 

Thanks for the idea!


Marlyn12
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   Posted 4/5/2012 12:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello there, im soo glad I'm not the only one who feels the fluttering sensations/skipped beat. I've struggled with anxiety and panic for 4 years already, and thru that whole time I've felt these flutters. I've seen a cardiologist 3 times, and I've had an EKG,halter monitor, and ultrasound, and all the lab work, and he's cLeared me from heart disease. He cant explain why I have them, just says I have an anxiety problem, but at the time I feel them, im so scared to have a heart attack or die, they are so scary:(

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 4/5/2012 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marlyn and welcome:)

I have always said that while the rational part of our minds can know that the palpitations/flutterings are benign...it is hard for us to just ignore the fact that it feels like you have a flopping fish in your chest!;p

I also have had these for many years, and many things can bring them on, including stress and anxiety.

I am glad that you have been given a clean bill of health from your doctor...now you can concentrate on treating your anxiety.:)

Feel free to start a new thread of introduction for yourself if you feel comfortable doing so. More members can welcome you this way, and we can get to know more about you and your story/journey with anxiety...and what has worked for you!

Please post anytime, and we look forward to getting to know you better.

Scaredy Cat
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Jopama 62
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   Posted 6/30/2012 9:59 AM (GMT -6)   
 
Two days ago I felt the butterfly feeling on the left side of my chest.  It took me a while to realize this was likely a heart valve issue.  I do have mitral valve prolapse but never physically felt it.  A doctor can always hear it but this was felt from within me.  Pretty interesting but it also gave me a real feeling of how I might check out some day.  Now that's an exaggertation but I'm in good health and rarely am reminded of my physical immortality.
I appreciate the many people who have posted (I've almost never 'posted' anywhere).  Since I didn't want to run to a doctor I found the responses greatly comforting at the present time.  To underscore what people have said, this has been quite a stressful week, swimming in the AM, working an 8 hour social work job and then being a "crew leader" with a few irritating middle school students at a church related forum for three hours each night this week, so the stress was fairly high.  Thanks again.

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 6/30/2012 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jopama and welcome!

I hope that your stress levels start to drop soon, and that you are able to get a check up with your doctor to confirm that all is physically fine...

If it does all turn out to be anxiety related, feel free to post with us about your feelings..and we will be here for your support!

Take care and talk to you soon,

Scaredy Cat
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Rachiexoxo
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   Posted 7/10/2012 5:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys, these posts really really made me feel alot better about the symptoms im experiencing.  For the past 4 or 5 years i've experienced changes in my heart rhythm and the skipped beats. Feels like a huge thump and other times a fluttery feeling. Sometimes when I get the strong thumps it feels like my heart has to start back up and I constantly worry my heart is going to stop for good. (Is that even possible???? cry   I do suffer from anxiety but truly have trouble believing these symptoms are JUST anxiety. My doctor diagnosed me with PVCS but I worry its something more than that. I also get extreme throat tightness and sometimes a little chest pain. Ive had multiple EKGs, tilt table test, blood work etc. Tomorrow i'm getting an echo. Hopefully all goes well. Sick of living in constant fear. Thank you to all for sharing your stories makes me feel like I am not alone!!! :-)

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 7/10/2012 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Rachie and welcome!

I hope that all goes well with your echo tomorrow...I am sure that it will.

It is hard to believe that all of these very real physical symptoms are indeed caused by anxiety, I know! However, the best thing that you can do is to trust your doctors and the test results.

If all is clear with the echo, then you know that you can start to focus on treating your anxiety! Many members here have found therapy (CBT in particular) to be helpful for these kind of health fears.

Ask your doctor about a referral...it will be the best investment that you can make for your recovery.:)

Keep posting with us as well...it is healing in itself to talk to others who understand what you are going through!

Let us know how your test goes,

Scaredy Cat
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ChristiB
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   Posted 7/10/2012 4:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had these for many years. The docs ran EKG's and an ECG, but saw that nothing was wrong. I chalk it up to anxiety/panic disorder.
~Christi

Rachiexoxo
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   Posted 7/11/2012 5:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Today I saw the doctor and they gave me a prescription for a beta blocker medication. I'm hoping this helps even though im hesitant to start it. I feel like I dont experience much actual racing of the heart more of just the skipped beats and flutterings as everyone else here does. Does anyone know if beta blockers calm down PVCs and PACs and irregular patterns? or do they just strictly lower heartrate? My doctor didn't really explain it well to me. Any of your help and knowledge would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!! Another question is there any possible way these could kill me? I'm just so worked up over this its insane. The rest of you sufferers are in my prayers!!

stkitt
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   Posted 7/11/2012 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Rachie,
 
Beta Blockers are drugs that stop or block adrenaline from binding to bodily receptors and thus nullifying the effect of this adrenaline in the body. Many of these receptor lie in the heart, and the over-reception of adrenaline leads to a host of heart problems including PVC. There are several beta blockers that are most effective in reducing or eliminating the occurrence of PVC. I am assuming your Dr. chose one that he felt would work best for your issues.
 
Using Beta blockers for anxiety can help reduce the physical symptoms we experience from our adrenal going into overdrive.  I have been taking a beta blocker for years as I have a hand tremor and when my anxiety kicks in the hand tremor is much more pronounced.  I have had good luck with control some of the physical sx of anxiety.
 
Beta Blockers alone will not cure anxiety.
 
I hope this helps you  understand how this med works.  Please remember - I am not a physician so this information is just FYI.
 
Keep on talking with us.
 
Kindly,
Kitt
 

 
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Float
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   Posted 12/2/2012 1:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had these flutterings for a few years (since my first child). I see a lot of people talk about an anxiety disorder. I feel worried (sometimes to the point of worrying for days) over small stuff and big stuff....like I have a rational side telling me its OK and this other feeling freaking out. How did you all (if you did) get diagonised. It would be nice to solve all the prolbems at once.

Sorry if i did this wrong.

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 12/2/2012 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Float and welcome!

Good question by the way...it can be hard to know whether you have anxiety or not!

My first experience was with a panic attack. I didn't even realize that I was having trouble with anxiety, because it can sneak up on you...stress piling up and building gradually...almost going unnoticed by our conscious minds...but not without eventual consequence. It will manifest itself eventually either mentally or physically (or both)

The best thing to do in my opinion is to make an appointment with your doctor and lay it all out for him/her. Write down what you want to say ahead of time, so you don't leave anything out and let you doctor know all that you have been feeling, thinking and experiencing...from the physical, like the palpatations...to the mental, like the worrying.

Your doctor will be able to determine if you are dealing with anxiety and help you to come up with a treatment plan. You may want to go with the therapy and/or medication route...or if you prefer less intervention, he she may be able to suggest some good self-help ideas such as yoga, meditation, books, exercise, ect.

We have some good ideas in our Resource Guide here as well. You can find it on our main page,1st post. We have links to breathing and relaxation exercises that help with lowering anxiety levels...especially when practiced daily.

Keep posting with us as well if you find it helpful. We are here to listen and support!

Good luck in getting your questions answered!

Scaredy Cat
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charlier
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   Posted 12/5/2012 1:22 PM (GMT -6)   
That is definitely a side affect of anxiety I was once told to hold your breath and do a quick release seems to relax.

scared2014
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   Posted 2/27/2014 7:47 PM (GMT -6)   
has anyone experienced where it seems your heart SINKS into your chest and makes a couple FAST beats then returns to normal??  i've also had where it skips a HARD beat and i can feel it like in my throat down to my sternum.. it SCARES the hell outta me .. i have had an EKG and done the heart monitor and they SAY that nothing was detected ..i have an irritated stomach ( GERD ) and i AM on an anxiety med ( Gabapentin ) but a very low dose ( 300 mgs a day...)  EVERY time it happens i FREAK OUT!  it's VERY scary!!

mysweetpanda
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   Posted 2/27/2014 8:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, as you can see by the previous posts, those irregular beats you're having are very common and a hallmark of anxiety sufferers. Since you've been checked out, I wwould not worry about them. I've had anxiety for 30 years and that symptom was the first one that sent me to the doctor. I was diagnosed with a slight extra beat and PVS. PVCs aren't actually the heart stopping. It's when the electrical signal in the ventrical fires prematurally. The chamber then contracts again as its supposed to which causes that thump you may feel after the "skip". It took me several EKGs, en echocardiogram, blood work, and a few sessions with a holter monitor which finally actually caught it. My dr could see it and said my heart was fine, and it was caused by anxiety. I've learned over the years to accept it and don't let it scare me anymore. I've also had the episodes of the racing heart that you mentioned where it feels like a rapid succession of beats over a few seconds, then right back to normal. That one still gets to me and I have to remember to breath instead of sitting there concentrating on waiting for it to get normal again. It is NOT fun, but as long as your doctor has cleared you, don't worry about those feelings.

kaykim7
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   Posted 2/27/2014 11:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had those too! Sometimes it just randomly comes and it feels like my heart wants to pop out of my chest. Definitely get it checked but worrying too much winto do any good. Hope for the best!

umair
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   Posted 5/30/2014 11:14 AM (GMT -6)   
hi am having this same feeling heart fluttering got checked every thing was clear and fine doctor told me this is Anxiety ! Oh gosh they are so frightening

Laceymyaalayah
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   Posted 5/30/2014 6:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I am having a really hard time dealing with these flutters today. I get them occasionally, but today it has been an ongoing all day thing. I am scared out of my mind. I will not go to the ER, or another cardiologist because I have had so many tests done by them, and it is all on my medical record and everything is supposedly "fine". I still do not feel fine. I am so scared of these when they happen and when they are not happening I am so afraid OF them happening. I feel like I am going to drop over dead from these things. Such a HORRIBLE feeling!!

SuperGleeHoneyBee
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   Posted 6/5/2014 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I have the same problem, but does anyone else experience slight upper body jerks with the palpitations? If I'm laying on my side I feel like my head and shoulders are being jerked forward and with the palpitation sometimes.

Scaredy Cat
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   Posted 6/6/2014 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi SGHB and welcometo the forum!

We all experience our symptoms somewhat uniquely...so I can't say as I have had exactly what you are describing...but I have had palps, and I have had involuntary muscle twitckes/jerks due to anxiety...so that is pretty close to the same thing maybe.

I encourage you to keep posting with us for understanding and support.

Consider starting a new thread of introduction for yourself at any time.:)

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